Would Pederson give us a better chance at the SB instead of Garrett?

[Johnny23]

Yes!!! Fly eagles fly. Always a Cowboy fan first but an Eagle fan second.

i would never root for the egals. ever but I am fan for 30+ seasons now. I hate all the nfce teams.

 

[Idgit]

This is another theory that makes me laugh...but only because it stems from people wanting it to be true because then it would me the Eagles only good coach left town.

And don’t get me wrong...Reich is a good coach (and it’s Indy, not Buff...Buffalo is where he played). But to just sit there and say most of the success can be attributed to Reich is just a bunch of, well, you know. First of all, how would one measure what Reich did? Doug called the plays. Doug made the game day decisions. Reich, and the rest of the coaches had input, sure. But spare me with the ‘he was the reason’ stuff...

I didn’t say “most of his success can be attributed to Reich.” I think you guys won a Superbowl with a good coach and a great roster. And some luck along the way in the postseason that year.

I would take Reich over Peterson as a HC, though.

 

[Sydla]

It seems bizarre to you because you’re in that group with the inferiority complex about the Eagles I mentioned.

Maybe go back and check the injury history for Garrett’s 13-3 2016 season. It may surprise you.

He was a 4th and Goal from the 2 from elimination in that Superbowl season. He did a great job that year, but let’s not pretend that coaching is the only element that comes into play with teams advancing in the postseason. It’s not diminishing him at all to compare him to a coach whose won more games overall against largely the same opponents the entire time Pederson has been in the league. Especially given how good that Eagles roster has actually been during that time. Garrett has generally outperformed him, head to head and overall. His teams haven’t had the same playoff success, but that doesn’t automatically mean the difference was coaching. The Falcons not calling a shovel pass on 2nd and goal and instead throwing the ball to Julio one more time might have been all the difference in that Superbowl run you’re hanging your entire evaluation off of.

Inferiority complex? About what?

Facts are facts. The Eagles have been a better franchise than us for two decades. They won a SB two years ago. Those are just simple facts. I am not too much of a homer to not admit reality.

One is a SB winning coach. One hasn’t even made a NFCCG in 8 seasons.

Dude.

 

[Idgit]

Inferiority complex? About what?

Facts are facts. The Eagles have been a better franchise than us for two decades. They won a SB two years ago. Those are just simple facts. I am not too much of a homer to not admit reality.

One is a SB winning coach. One hasn’t even made a NFCCG in 8 seasons.

Dude.

I’m not disputing your facts, since they’re obvious. I dispute you crediting the additional 2017 playoff success to HC differential, because there is enough other evidence over the last three years to suggest otherwise. Including overall wins v similar opponents and head to head matchups.

 

[Sydla]

I’m not disputing your facts, since they’re obvious. I dispute you crediting the additional 2017 playoff success to HC differential, because there is enough other evidence over the last three years to suggest otherwise. Including overall wins v similar opponents and head to head matchups.

There really isn’t enough evidence to support your point when one of the day’s points is one WON A SUPER BOWL. Also one was a new head coach over that three year period and one was an experienced HC.

It’s not surprising that reality doesn’t enter your calculus here either.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

I would take Tom Landry from the grave over red right now.

 

[Idgit]

There really isn’t enough evidence to support your point when one of the day’s points is one WON A SUPER BOWL. Also one was a new head coach over that three year period and one was an experienced HC.

It’s not surprising that reality doesn’t enter your calculus here either.

I’m out of ways to point out that you’re overweighting the Superbowl run as the sole differentiator between the two coaches. I understand that you need that to be the sole differentiator for your argument to stand up, despite the other evidence to the contrary over the course of the last three seasons.

Tenure didn’t enter into my calculus, because its irrelevant to OP’s question. He’s asking about the coaches’ relative abilities today.

 

[Sydla]

I’m out of ways to point out that you’re overweighting the Superbowl run as the sole differentiator between the two coaches. I understand that you need that to be the sole differentiator for your argument to stand up, despite the other evidence to the contrary over the course of the last three seasons.

Tenure didn’t enter into my calculus, because its irrelevant to OP’s question. He’s asking about the coaches’ relative abilities today.

How can anyone overweight a coach winning a SB?

It’s the greatest achievement a coach can earn. And if you want to look at a three year window, any SB win would be significantly more important than spitting out a 13 win season where you then get bounced from the playoffs early.

 

[JustChip]

Umm...........He lost his starting QB and other injuries and took his team to the 2nd round of the playoffs.

Which is exactly what Garrett did in 2016. With a rookie, 4th round QB.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

So Wentz wasn’t healthy enough to play last year?

It was questionable if he’d even participate in minicamp 5 months later

 

[Idgit]

How can anyone overweight a coach winning a SB?

It’s the greatest achievement a coach can earn. And if you want to look at a three year window, any SB win would be significantly more important than spitting out a 13 win season where you then get bounced from the playoffs early.

Organizations win Superbowls. Mostly the players. Coaching is a part of it, but it’s not all of it. Quick, who you got: Andy Reid or Barry Switzer? Jim Harbaugh or Doug Pederson?

 

[PUSHfold]

Yes!!! Fly eagles fly. Always a Cowboy fan first but an Eagle fan second.

How is this even possible?

Were you by chance dropped on your head as a baby? Serious question...

 

[Blake]

Inferiority complex? About what?

Facts are facts. The Eagles have been a better franchise than us for two decades. They won a SB two years ago. Those are just simple facts. I am not too much of a homer to not admit reality.

One is a SB winning coach. One hasn’t even made a NFCCG in 8 seasons.

Dude.

Idgit. Another example of how deluded some cowboys fans can be because of the team's success over two decades ago that most everyone in the modern era has already forgotten about. Proof also that the game has passed him by much like it has for his bae Garret.

 

[Blake]

I would take Tom Landry from the grave over red right now.

I would take 1980s, lost his touch Tom Landry over Garret. Atleast we'd be guranteed a few NFCC appearances.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

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[Idgit]

Idgit. Another example of how deluded some cowboys fans can be because of the team's success over two decades ago that most everyone in the modern era has already forgotten about. Proof also that the game has passed him by much like it has for his bae Garret.

You can always try to tackle the actual argument when you’re done with the clever digs. In this case, it’s based on games won overall and games won head to head. Quick: show me where I’m deluded.

 

[JoeKing]

I hate everything about the iggles so why would I think the Cowboys would be better with the iggles HC?

 

[ghst187]

What did Peterson do last year with a Super Bowl team? He was doomed last year once people caught on to his gimmicks on offense.

But he did get one SB first.....JG hasn’t even made it to the Conf champ game

 

[CowboyRoy]

Which is exactly what Garrett did in 2016. With a rookie, 4th round QB.

Without a doubt his best season. ONLY good season actually. But we know now how good of a QB Dak is. Still, he made the decision to stick with DAk.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Organizations win Superbowls. Mostly the players. Coaching is a part of it, but it’s not all of it. Quick, who you got: Andy Reid or Barry Switzer? Jim Harbaugh or Doug Pederson?

LOL......yes and poor Garrett has been a victim here in Dallas as you said. He would be winning SB's at other places but for the lack of talent here.