Would you be surprised if Henson gets #2 QB spot.

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HeavyHitta31 said:
You're wife must be the major source of income then

Like your assumtion that Romo is better, you assume two things here.

One - that I have a wife.

Two - that the sampling of my writing on this board is indicative of what I write for money. And therefore assume that you know from this writing that I do not get paid a great deal to do so in real life.

Amusing, like the house wine.
 

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Like your assumtion that Romo is better, you assume two things here.

One - that I have a wife.

Two - that the sampling of my writing on this board is indicative of what I write for money. And therefore assume that you know from this writing that I do not get paid a great deal to do so in real life.

Amusing, like the house wine.

I dont need to assume Romo is better, I just need the facts that are there to know Romo is better.

And it was sarcasm. Dont get your panties in a wad. :rolleyes:
 

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John Elway.

While a ridiculous rebuttal, it applies here.


It is exactly a ridiculous rebuttal.

Cowboys history would tell you that they have not had success with baseball players.

And you're going to make a John Elway comparison and act like that's not ridiculous. The two were never in the same league. As old as John is, he could still out QB Henskunk. Henson is a clown posing as a QB. His lack of experience coupled with his leave from the game of football are good reasons why he won't ever catch up to speed in the NFL.

The odor must be intoxicating, because people sure get high on this guy. Unreasonably and unrealistically high on this clown.

I'll pass on the jock sniffing though ...
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
I dont need to assume Romo is better, I just need the facts that are there to know Romo is better.

And it was sarcasm. Dont get your panties in a wad. :rolleyes:

I didn't get my panties in a wad, actually. I got the joke.

And there are 3.5 million facts that say Romo will be cut before Henson.
 

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It is exactly not a ridiculous rebuttal. You just take offense to it because you're a Henon jock-rider/sniffer.

Cowboys history would tell you that they have not had success with baseball players.

And you're going to make a John Elway comparison and act like that's not ridiculous. The two were never in the same league. As old as John is, he could still out QB Henskunk. Henson is a clown posing as a QB. His lack of experience coupled with his leave from the game of football are good reasons why he won't ever catch up to speed in the NFL.

The odor must be intoxicating, because people sure get high on this guy. Unreasonably and unrealistically high on this clown.

reread my post. My comment about it being ridiculous is in regard to my bringing up Elway. Not your comment.

By the way, perhaps before you insult me, you should make certain you understand the point I am making.

You suggest the history of this team indicates bringing in baseball players doesn't work.

I agree to the extent that Hutchinson and Quincy did not.

I also suggest that being a baseballer is not, by itself, an indictment on the potential of a player to succeed in this league at this position.

Henson may very well be a bust.

But from this vantage point I don't have the answers yet.

I do however have a notion Romo is Clint Stoerner. They are so similar it is both incredible and obvious.

I do not have to be in the Henson camp to appreciate that Romo will not be Favre, Montana, or any other player some have tried to make out on this board.

The Elway comment was simply to suggest that having a prior baseball fling does not mean you will automtaically be a bust.
 

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Yes, against this year's cap.

You aren't an idiot. Most people don't get this. I said it in another Henson Romo thread the other day and a MOD here wanted to argue this point.

We owe him guaranteed money.

So if they are forced to cut a quarterback, can you say for absolute certainty that Romo has played so well he is worth them eating 3.5 million dollars this season?

That is why this argument about Romo is moot.
First I am against relaesing Henson. I don't think it is near time to decide if he can play or not and do not think we need to throw him away because he is raw at this point.


All that said I am fairly certain this info you use is incorrect.

Drew Henson did receive about a 7 million dollar deal with 3.5 million guaranteed but the other 3.5 was contingent on him getting a certain number of starts(much like Chad Hutchinson).

Henson is on year 2 and would have eaten a percentage of that 3.5 million guarantee. Divided 3.5 by 7 and you get .5 so figure a 3 million hit; .8 of which is already gonna hit the cap regardless. In the end that adds up to an additonal 2.2 million dollar cap hit for his release. Since it is after June 1st that cap hit would be split over two season at 1.1 million each year.

From the Detroit Free Press....
Henson signed an eight-year contract, with the final four years voidable. Although he’s earning the rookie minimum, $228,000, he reportedly has received a guaranteed $3.5 million, with contract incentives that will boost his annual compensation.
 

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As well as one very large ego

I think it is patently ridiculous to imply that Parcells would allow his ego to hurt the team by cutting someone who is so obviously better - of course I don't see this clear cut superiority of Romo. But if Romo is better, and better at executing the offense the way Bill has called it, then he'll be the number 2. It won't have anything to do with saving face - you don't save face naming a number 2 in the NFL. 90% of the populace doesn't even know who the backups are. For most fans, even most Cowboys fans, the backup is an afterthought. Naming Romo the backup last year for half the season didn't exactly light the NFL on fire, did it?

Romo will get the job if he earns it. If not he won't. All this talk of egos and saving face just makes me think you are not so confident that your boy will win and you want to save face for yourself if he's not named the backup. As for me, I couldn't care less who the backup is and I sincerely hope he doesn't see a snap this year. But I haven't seen a huge difference between Romo and Henson, so I guess I don't have a horse in this race.
 

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I think it is patently ridiculous to imply that Parcells would allow his ego to hurt the team by cutting someone who is so obviously better - of course I don't see this clear cut superiority of Romo. But if Romo is better, and better at executing the offense the way Bill has called it, then he'll be the number 2. It won't have anything to do with saving face - you don't save face naming a number 2 in the NFL. 90% of the populace doesn't even know who the backups are. For most fans, even most Cowboys fans, the backup is an afterthought. Naming Romo the backup last year for half the season didn't exactly light the NFL on fire, did it?

Romo will get the job if he earns it. If not he won't. All this talk of egos and saving face just makes me think you are not so confident that your boy will win and you want to save face for yourself if he's not named the backup. As for me, I couldn't care less who the backup is and I sincerely hope he doesn't see a snap this year. But I haven't seen a huge difference between Romo and Henson, so I guess I don't have a horse in this race.

Though it is very possible BP wont cut Henson for this reason, I was reffering to JJ
 

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TwoDeep3 said:
I didn't get my panties in a wad, actually. I got the joke.

And there are 3.5 million facts that say Romo will be cut before Henson.


I'll agree on that ... it sucks though ... I'm just going to cross my fingers that Bledsoe can stay upright ... and that if it comes down to it, Romo is #2.

In Bill I trust.
 

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First I am against relaesing Henson. I don't think it is near time to decide if he can play or not and do not think we need to throw him away because he is raw at this point.


All that said I am fairly certain this info you use is incorrect.

Drew Henson did receive about a 7 million dollar deal with 3.5 million guaranteed but the other 3.5 was contingent on him getting a certain number of starts(much like Chad Hutchinson).

Henson is on year 2 and would have eaten a percentage of that 3.5 million guarantee. Divided 3.5 by 7 and you get .5 so figure a 3 million hit; .8 of which is already gonna hit the cap regardless. In the end that adds up to an additonal 2.2 million dollar cap hit for his release. Since it is after June 1st that cap hit would be split over two season at 1.1 million each year.

From the Detroit Free Press....
Henson signed an eight-year contract, with the final four years voidable. Although he’s earning the rookie minimum, $228,000, he reportedly has received a guaranteed $3.5 million, with contract incentives that will boost his annual compensation.

It was posted by Spags in an answer to a question yesterday. Now that is not exactly Adamjt13, but I suspect he did research this or was told this by the team.

So believe as you like.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
Though it is very possible BP wont cut Henson for this reason, I was reffering to JJ

Geez, I thought you were referring to me for making the statement.

Oops.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
I dont need to assume Romo is better, I just need the facts that are there to know Romo is better.

And it was sarcasm. Dont get your panties in a wad. :rolleyes:


If your lookin for facts that Romo is better then you will be looking for a long time. If there were any facts like this BP woulda named him the #2 QB.

And quit with the saving face stuff you stupid cornhole warrior. Henson could easily be named #3 and stay on this team and the Boys are not out any money. There will be next year for Henson if he is named #3. The truth is Romo has not shown he is any better then Henson or he woulda been named #3.
 

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If Romo plays poorly and doesn't win the #2, he will be cut.
Another backup will be brought in as the #2.
Henson has shown he isn't ready and Parcells has no confidence in him.

So the scenarios for QB #2/#3 are as follows:
1. Romo #2, Henson #3
2. Veteran #2, Henson #3

There is no way Henson will be number 2 for the first half of this season.

BOOK IT
 

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goshan said:
If Romo plays poorly and doesn't win the #2, he will be cut.
Another backup will be brought in as the #2.
Henson has shown he isn't ready and Parcells has no confidence in him.

So the scenarios for QB #2/#3 are as follows:
1. Romo #2, Henson #3
2. Veteran #2, Henson #3

There is no way Henson will be number 2 for the first half of this season.

BOOK IT

I think there is a real good chance you will be right.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
Though it is very possible BP wont cut Henson for this reason, I was reffering to JJ

And yet both guys that JJ named the QB of the future were cut. Hutch was supposed to be 'A man among boys' when he was out there according to JJ. Quincy was supposed to be McNabb. Both are gone because Parcells felt one couldn't play and the other couldn't be relied on. Jerry had a lot of his credibility on the line with those players since he supposedly reached for QC in the draft and pursued Hutch so aggressively, giving him long term guaranteed money.

I'm sorry, I just don't think that Jerry's ego will buy Henson a roster spot - much less the number 2 position. Parcells wouldn't allow Henson to be number 2 if he truly believed it was not in the best interest of the club, and putting Henson at number 3 surely won't be any harder than releasing Hutch and cutting Quincy (who was our starter at the time) in training camp.
 
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