Would you give up a 2nd for Matt Schaub

[Wheat]

fair enough.

let me take a few steps back.

With as much time as Vick misses....and if Schaub is as good as some folks here are saying. Why would Atl be willing to move him at all?

 

[Qwickdraw]

What is funny is despite all the starts that Vick has, he has thrown for 300 yards 1 time. Schaub with only a couple of starts put up 300 on NE with 3 TD passes.

I forgot to mention that he did it with Atlanta. One of the worst passing offenses in the NFL.

 

[Doomsday101]

fair enough.

let me take a few steps back.

With as much time as Vick misses....and if Schaub is as good as some folks here are saying. Why would Atl be willing to move him at all?

Because it is hard to keep 2 high priced players at 1 position. Atl trying to move him while he is still under contract makes more sense than losing him to FA. Also Alt history of QB is not that great, I seem to remember a backup QB they traded away to GB.

 

[Doomsday101]

I forgot to mention that he did it with Atlanta. One of the worst passing offenses in the NFL.

Schaub in that game did not seem to have a problem with the WR who most blame for Vicks poor outings throwing the ball. Everyone in Atl gets blamed for a poor passing game except for Mr. Vick.

 

[Qwickdraw]

This thread makes me wonder how many people have actually seen Schaub play.

Too many posters make bold statements about players they haven't even watched.
Why bother?

Maybe I'm the one of the only ones here that watches multiple games in their entirety on Sundays outside of my own team's.

 

[Wheat]

Because it is hard to keep 2 high priced players at 1 position. Atl trying to move him while he is still under contract makes more sense than losing him to FA. Also Alt history of QB is not that great, I seem to remember a backup QB they traded away to GB.

Then you guys better hush up, or they might read this board and decide to keep him.

So, you want to trade for him, and start him right away? make him sit for a year? give him a new contract? What's the plan?

 

[Qwickdraw]

Then you guys better hush up, or they might read this board and decide to keep him.

So, you want to trade for him, and start him right away? make him sit for a year? give him a new contract? What's the plan?

May the best man win going into Camp.
Period.

 

[Doomsday101]

Then you guys better hush up, or they might read this board and decide to keep him.

So, you want to trade for him, and start him right away? make him sit for a year? give him a new contract? What's the plan?

I would trade for him and have him compete for the job. Outside of Bledsoe Dallas is not looking overly strong at backup QB so even if Schaub had to sit for a year so what.

 

[Wheat]

but, would you give him a new deal right away? take a risk by giving him a fat bonus? Or would you wait and see, then risk letting him walk as a free agent?

xoxo

-Bufford (The guy who would like to see Jason Campbell fight for the starting job next year, even though I KNOW Brunell has got it locked up)

 

[Qwickdraw]

I would trade for him and have him compete for the job. Outside of Bledsoe Dallas is not looking overly strong at backup QB so even if Schaub had to sit for a year so what.

Looks like you and I are on the same page here, Doom.

 

[Doomsday101]

Looks like you and I are on the same page here, Doom.

Hey if Dallas was set at QB I would pass but the fact is outside of Bledsoe who chances are plays 1 or 2 more years we have major question marks. After watching Schaub both in pre-season and a couple of reg season games I would feel a lot better about our situation at QB both in the short and long term.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I like Schuab but to be honest, I'd just a soon draft a kid like Olson or Croyle or Whitehurst in a later round. I think they all could end up being the same type of QB. JMO

 

[Doomsday101]

but, would you give him a new deal right away? take a risk by giving him a fat bonus? Or would you wait and see, then risk letting him walk as a free agent?

xoxo

-Bufford (The guy who would like to see Jason Campbell fight for the starting job next year, even though I KNOW Brunell has got it locked up)

Any time you bring in a player be it the draft of FA there are certain risk so yes I would give him a decent bonus and a new contract.

 

[Qwickdraw]

I like Schuab but to be honest, I'd just a soon draft a kid like Olson or Croyle or Whitehurst in a later round. I think they all could end up being the same type of QB. JMO

But thats just it.

One of them might. But the other 2 wont.

At least you have been able to see Schaub in action and he has shown great promise.

Why take the bigger gamble for the same potential payoff?

 

[Wheat]

I like Schuab but to be honest, I'd just a soon draft a kid like Olson or Croyle or Whitehurst in a later round. I think they all could end up being the same type of QB. JMO

I agree with you.

 

[texastwister]

The only diffence is Schuab has done well in" live " action. When you draft a rookie you have no idea what to expect from him. From what Ive seen of Matt he has a good arm decent accuracy and has pretty good wheel. They dont change the playbook when Matt plays. Still run bootlegs.
I posted the poll but not sure if I would trade a #2 for him(still sitting on the fence). Maybe a lower pick and a player if you could pull it off.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

But thats just it.

One of them might. But the other 2 wont.

At least you have been able to see Schaub in action and he has shown great promise.

Why take the bigger gamble for the same potential payoff?

I don't agree with this. Schaub, while impressive in the opportunities he's had, is not a starter. He's thrown a total of 134 balls in the NFL. He's had two starts. His comp% is 49.3. 5 TDs vs 4 INTs. His QB rating is 68.8 lifetime. What does all this say? It says that it's inconclusive at this point. He could be Delhomme or he could be Chris Weinke. Point being Schaub, IMO, is far from a sure thing in the NFL. It's much different when your the starter. It's not like being the backup. A 2nd round pick should be a starter for you. We can draft a QB with much the same skill set as Schaub for much less. I would be in favor of this. Now, if we could get him cheaper, then I'd be all for that.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't agree with this. Schaub, while impressive in the opportunities he's had, is not a starter. He's thrown a total of 134 balls in the NFL. He's had two starts. His comp% is 49.3. 5 TDs vs 4 INTs. His QB rating is 68.8 lifetime. What does all this say? It says that it's inconclusive at this point. He could be Delhomme or he could be Chris Weinke. Point being Schaub, IMO, is far from a sure thing in the NFL. It's much different when your the starter. It's not like being the backup. A 2nd round pick should be a starter for you. We can draft a QB with much the same skill set as Schaub for much less. I would be in favor of this. Now, if we could get him cheaper, then I'd be all for that.

all 4 ints came in his rookie season, this past season again with limited oppertunities played very well throwing for 4 TD and 0 ints. With a rookie you have no ideal what your going to get at least with Schaub he would come in with at least some experiance and some success.

 

[CactusCowboy]

Yes!!!!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

all 4 ints came in his rookie season, this past season again with limited oppertunities played very well throwing for 4 TD and 0 ints. With a rookie you have no ideal what your going to get at least with Schaub he would come in with at least some experiance and some success.

Dooms, you know as well as I that 2 games started is not enough for teams to game plan you. It's just different when your the starter. I don't know how else to say it. It's just different. I acknowledge the fact that the 4 ints came in his rookie year but I would say that 64 attempts is not a good enough base line to say he's going to be a guy who can start and win in the NFL. To me, a 2nd is too much. For much less, I think we could bring in a very experienced back up and be in a much better position should Bledsoe go down.