Would you give up a 2nd for Matt Schaub

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ABQCOWBOY said:
I agree with this, which is why I am an advocate of drafting a guy later.

Get past the top 3 QB's and sorry I don't think this is great QB class.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
At least 1 that has a decent chance. I see Romo as nothing more than a backup and Henson a project that may or may not pan out. I think the dumbest move is to once again do what we did when Aikman was here and that was we failed to have his replacement in the wings so we ened up with poor QB's and rejects like Leaf. You don't wait until your starting QB retires not at that position.

You can see the two of them as whatever you want. All that matters is what BP sees, and it seems like he likes what he sees.
 

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superpunk said:
You can see the two of them as whatever you want. All that matters is what BP sees, and it seems like he likes what he sees.

I agree however as pointed out on a reg basis around here this board is about giving opinions or was that another board I was thinking about? LOL
 

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Doomsday101 said:
At least 1 that has a decent chance. I see Romo as nothing more than a backup and Henson a project that may or may not pan out. I think the dumbest move is to once again do what we did when Aikman was here and that was we failed to have his replacement in the wings so we ened up with poor QB's and rejects like Leaf. You don't wait until your starting QB retires not at that position.
Romo and Henson would have been ideal backups to replace Aikman. They didn't have anything behind Aikman in development in his last years.
 

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speedkilz88 said:
Romo and Henson would have been ideal backups to replace Aikman. They didn't have anything behind Aikman in development in his last years.

Maybe, maybe not. Based on Pre-season I have questions about them a lot more than I do with Schaub.
 

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superpunk said:
When speaking with the Seattle media, BP was answering questions about the two Drews. After those questions were asked, BP coy-ly remarked that "He has another one down here that you guys don't know about, who's pretty good." He likes Romo. Why? I don't know, and we won't know for a couple years, but he does like him alot.

i am hoping we may know more a lot sooner. remember that even though we may (or may not) have a new OC this will be DBs second year in BPs system. my guess is he plays a lot less in pre-season since he is a vet QB who would be familiar with the system, which means that Romo and Henson will see a lot more action. this will likely include at least a few extended outings in pre-season and is part of why i am excited about this pre-season. i really believe that this pre-season answers some of our "future QB questions.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
His skills are not that of a backup QB.

He's never looked any better than a backup to me. He's got a mediocre arm and I doubt he could carry a team if it needed him to. Doesn't look good under pressure.
 

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baj1dallas said:
He's never looked any better than a backup to me. He's got a mediocre arm and I doubt he could carry a team if it needed him to. Doesn't look good under pressure.

Well that is your opinion I just don't agree with it.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I agree however as pointed out on a reg basis around here this board is about giving opinions or was that another board I was thinking about? LOL

Opinions should be based on something. The only thing you're basing your opinion of the backups on is the fact that you haven't seen them. I'd rather base my opinion of them on things Parcells has said, and the fact that he keeps them on board.
 

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superpunk said:
Opinions should be based on something. The only thing you're basing your opinion of the backups on is the fact that you haven't seen them. I'd rather base my opinion of them on things Parcells has said, and the fact that he keeps them on board.

I'm basing it on watching him play that is what I'm basing it on, if you disagree then fine that is your opinion but I know what I have seen from him and I like what I see. I have seen Romo play in Pre-season as well and he may have moxie but in my book moxie does not mean much. Henson I feel has the physical tools but to me it appears the speed of the game is still something he is trying to overcome. I also know Bill is has been in no hurry to play either of our backups
 

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Qwickdraw said:
So let me get this strait...
if Matt Schaub were in this year's draft, you wouldn't spend the #50 pick on him?:confused:

The guy who threw for 300 yards, 3 TDs and 0 INT against the Patriots?
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I like Schaub but that was only one game, and the Pats were playing terrible defense at the time

he's had some other regular season game appearances and didnt look good in those

I'd have to say I wouldnt give up a 2nd for him right now simply because he isnt going to be the starter here, Bledsoe is unless he gets hurt

David
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I'm basing it on watching him play that is what I'm basing it on, if you disagree then fine that is your opinion but I know what I have seen from him and I like what I see. I have seen Romo play in Pre-season as well and he may have moxie but in my book moxie does not mean much. Henson I feel has the physical tools but to me it appears the speed of the game is still something he is trying to overcome. I also know Bill is has been in no hurry to play either of our backups

So, you would much rather have Schaub, someone I'm wagering you haven't seen much more than 1 game of play from, than either of our backups? Even though Parcells, who sees them everyday in practice, has such glowing praise for Romo? I'm not claiming either of our backups are gonna be world beaters, but Schaub has done nothing to indicate that he is any sort of special talent. I hardly consider having a decent day against a dreadful NE secondary a glowing resume....
 

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So, you would much rather have Schaub, someone I'm wagering you haven't seen much more than 1 game of play from, than either of our backups? Even though Parcells, who sees them everyday in practice, has such glowing praise for Romo? I'm not claiming either of our backups are gonna be world beaters, but Schaub has done nothing to indicate that he is any sort of special talent. I hardly consider having a decent day against a dreadful NE secondary a glowing resume....

I have seen him play more than 1 game and at this stage I'm not ready to put all my eggs in one basket as in Romo or Henson. Lastly we have no ideal of what opinion Bill may have of other QB around the league including Schaub in comparison to what we currently have on the roster . When Vinny was let go I did not see Bill turn to Romo or Henson. So your speculation is no better than mine unless you called Bill and asked him his opinion on Schaub.
 

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Rack said:
No

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hell.

So, since a second round choice is so valuable--would you people who don't like the idea trade Jacob Rogers for Schaub?

How about Al Johnson?

It is not like we have a great history recently with second round choices.

A second round choice for a promising young QB who has shown he is a legitimate QB is pittance. And I am sure if we wanted him, Al Groh could tell Coach Parcells all about him.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
Once you get past the top 2 QB in this draft there is no one out there better that Schaub. A team would be getting a player who has had some success playing the position at the NFL level and is a lot closer to being a sure thing than a high priced rookie.

Absolutely.

If the idea is to get a backup this year for a possible 2007/2008 debut, then Schaub for a second round pick makes more sense than Brodie Croyle or Omar Jacobs. He is already used to the speed of the game and could start tomorrow if needed.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I have seen him play more than 1 game and at this stage I'm not ready to put all my eggs in one basket as in Romo or Henson. Lastly we have no ideal of what opinion Bill may have of other QB around the league including Schaub in comparison to what we currently have on the roster . When Vinny was let go I did not see Bill turn to Romo or Henson. So your speculation is no better than mine unless you called Bill and asked him his opinion on Schaub.

He's already given his opinion on the two QBs already on the roster. I don't need his opinion on Schaub, but if I did, it would probably go something like this;

"I like the player."

The fact that he is sticking with developing Romo and Henson, combined with the praise of Romo I shared with you earlier, tells me that he sees something in them. Thus, a move for Schaub is VERY unlikely, especially at that cost.
 

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Alexander said:
So, since a second round choice is so valuable--would you people who don't like the idea trade Jacob Rogers for Schaub?

How about Al Johnson?

Just cuz we've screwed up before (and the jury's still out on those players, BTW) doesn't mean we should trade away a draft pick out of fear of screwing up again.
 

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superpunk said:
Just cuz we've screwed up before (and the jury's still out on those players, BTW) doesn't mean we should trade away a draft pick out of fear of screwing up again.

My point was not that we should fear making a bad second round choice.

It was the idea that a second round pick is not nearly as valuable as you would think given our recent history with them (forgot about how the Burnett pick is looking now also).

If that is all a potential future starting QB costs, then by all means you should take it.
 
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