Would you like to see Drew Bledsoe back next year?

[StanleySpadowski]

The way the voting's gone has been very consistent with every other Bledsoe poll.

A lot of the regulars vote when then come in, the results are not what some people (usually the author) had hoped for, then the ghosts start popping up to skew the results. It takes a lot longer for the ghost votes with the signing out, waiting, signing back in under another name.

 

[alancdc]

Give him a o line and he proved that he can still be a relly productive QB in this league.

 

[Longboysfan]

Yes because he is much better than anyone else we have......fix the oline and he'll be even better.

I votes Yes.

Most of the problems can be traced to the O line that doubles as a siv.

When you get beat down a full season it takes it toll on your body.
We were in every game so the QB stays in there and takes it.

Do we have anyone on the roster who is close. No.

 

[gbrittain]

I keep telling you Neil. These people are not "bashers" they are Cowboys fans with high expectations.

Big Neil is losing whatever credibility he had in a hurry.

 

[Kilyin]

He never had any credibility to begin with. My advice, go far away from here, and take Phoenix Talon with you.

 

[kmd24]

i DO NOT HATE BLEDSOE. i just think we'll get what we got for whatever reason next year.

could he break past it and move on? sure he could. but as you yourself said from now from MY POV - for bledsoe to "make it" would be an exception to the rule.

it could happen, but i'd rather bank on a young guy we develop than an old one set in his patterns.

I haven't done any statistical breakdowns to determine whether there is a general trend, but there are some very high profile players from the modern free agency period (1993-present) that suggest that it is not uncommon for a QB to have a break out season or two towards the end of his career. By this I mean a talented QB that has performed (statistcally at least) at an average or slightly above average pace during the bulk of his career but suddenly performs well above his previous performances near the end. Guys that fit this mold include John Elway, Chris Chandler, Randall Cunningham, Steve Beuerlein, and Rich Gannon.

Elway in particular was nothing special from a statistical standpoint until his eleventh year in the league.

   Passing Rushing 
Year Team    G  Att Comp  Yards  TD Int Rating  
1983 Denver 11  259  123   1663   7  14   54.9 
1984 Denver 15  380  214   2598  18  15   76.8
1985 Denver 16  605  327   3891  22  23   70.2
1986 Denver 16  504  280   3485  19  13   79 
1987 Denver 12  410  224   3198  19  12   83.4 
1988 Denver 15  496  274   3309  17  19   71.4 
1989 Denver 15  416  223   3051  18  18   73.7 
1990 Denver 16  502  294   3526  15  14   78.5 
1991 Denver 16  451  242   3253  13  12   75.4 
1992 Denver 12  316  174   2242  10  17   65.7 
1993 Denver 16  551  348   4030  25  10   92.8 
1994 Denver 14  494  307   3490  16  10   85.7 
1995 Denver 16  542  316   3970  26  14   86.4 
1996 Denver 15  466  287   3328  26  14   89.2 
1997 Denver 16  502  280   3635  27  11   87.5 
1998 Denver 13  356  210   2806  22  10   93 
Car  Ttl   234 7250 4123 51,475 300 226   79.9

 

[big_neil]

he simply phrased it to get the results he wanted

No, it's a simple question and everyone knows what I meant. Do you want Drew here or not? Given that he took every single snap and Parcells is likely our coach, I would estimate only 1% of the voters voted Yes meaning as a backup. If you were one of the 1% please let us know. Talk about scraping the bucket - and yes I do think this landslide vote will bother No voters because they'll realize that only about 1 in 6 agrees with them.

 

[Trip]

I haven't done any statistical breakdowns to determine whether there is a general trend, but there are some very high profile players from the modern free agency period (1993-present) that suggest that it is not uncommon for a QB to have a break out season or two towards the end of his career. By this I mean a talented QB that has performed (statistcally at least) at an average or slightly above average pace during the bulk of his career but suddenly performs well above his previous performances near the end. Guys that fit this mold include John Elway, Chris Chandler, Randall Cunningham, Steve Beuerlein, and Rich Gannon.

Elway in particular was nothing special from a statistical standpoint until his eleventh year in the league.

   Passing Rushing 
Year Team    G  Att Comp  Yards  TD Int Rating  
1983 Denver 11  259  123   1663   7  14   54.9 
1984 Denver 15  380  214   2598  18  15   76.8
1985 Denver 16  605  327   3891  22  23   70.2
1986 Denver 16  504  280   3485  19  13   79 
1987 Denver 12  410  224   3198  19  12   83.4 
1988 Denver 15  496  274   3309  17  19   71.4 
1989 Denver 15  416  223   3051  18  18   73.7 
1990 Denver 16  502  294   3526  15  14   78.5 
1991 Denver 16  451  242   3253  13  12   75.4 
1992 Denver 12  316  174   2242  10  17   65.7 
1993 Denver 16  551  348   4030  25  10   92.8 
1994 Denver 14  494  307   3490  16  10   85.7 
1995 Denver 16  542  316   3970  26  14   86.4 
1996 Denver 15  466  287   3328  26  14   89.2 
1997 Denver 16  502  280   3635  27  11   87.5 
1998 Denver 13  356  210   2806  22  10   93 
Car  Ttl   234 7250 4123 51,475 300 226   79.9

Nice job posting the Elway stats. He's the player I thought of too when Bledsoe signed with Dallas, hoping their careers followed the same path with better numbers - and Super Bowls - late in their careers.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Nice job posting the Elway stats. He's the player I thought of too when Bledsoe signed with Dallas, hoping their careers followed the same path with better numbers - and Super Bowls - late in their careers.

The difference is that as Elway entered his "SB" years, I never felt as though his overall skills were slipping. His arm was still good and he still could move around some.

Drew on the other hand just seems to be getting slower and slower and slower. And at 34 I would expect his skills to continue to recede... that's only normal.

 

[Nors]

85% pro Bledsoe

100% pro Oline upgrade!

 

[kmd24]

The difference is that as Elway entered his "SB" years, I never felt as though his overall skills were slipping. His arm was still good and he still could move around some.

Drew on the other hand just seems to be getting slower and slower and slower. And at 34 I would expect his skills to continue to recede... that's only normal.

Elway is revered as a winner because of the way his career ended. The truth is, if Terrell Davis and that zone blocking OL hadn't come along, Elway would be mentioned in the same breath as Dan Marino rather than Troy Aikman.

Before Terrell Davis became the starter, Elway's two best passer rating seasons led to Broncos records of 9-7 followed by 7-9.

Very telling, to say the least.

I wonder how Drew Bledsoe would fare with a running game of that quality.

 

[iceberg]

I haven't done any statistical breakdowns to determine whether there is a general trend, but there are some very high profile players from the modern free agency period (1993-present) that suggest that it is not uncommon for a QB to have a break out season or two towards the end of his career. By this I mean a talented QB that has performed (statistcally at least) at an average or slightly above average pace during the bulk of his career but suddenly performs well above his previous performances near the end. Guys that fit this mold include John Elway, Chris Chandler, Randall Cunningham, Steve Beuerlein, and Rich Gannon.

Elway in particular was nothing special from a statistical standpoint until his eleventh year in the league.

Passing Rushing 
Year Team G Att Comp Yards TD Int Rating 
1983 Denver 11 259 123 1663 7 14 54.9 
1984 Denver 15 380 214 2598 18 15 76.8
1985 Denver 16 605 327 3891 22 23 70.2
1986 Denver 16 504 280 3485 19 13 79 
1987 Denver 12 410 224 3198 19 12 83.4 
1988 Denver 15 496 274 3309 17 19 71.4 
1989 Denver 15 416 223 3051 18 18 73.7 
1990 Denver 16 502 294 3526 15 14 78.5 
1991 Denver 16 451 242 3253 13 12 75.4 
1992 Denver 12 316 174 2242 10 17 65.7 
1993 Denver 16 551 348 4030 25 10 92.8 
1994 Denver 14 494 307 3490 16 10 85.7 
1995 Denver 16 542 316 3970 26 14 86.4 
1996 Denver 15 466 287 3328 26 14 89.2 
1997 Denver 16 502 280 3635 27 11 87.5 
1998 Denver 13 356 210 2806 22 10 93 
Car Ttl 234 7250 4123 51,475 300 226 79.9

that's 6 years in a row elway was 85+

bledsoe never had more than 3 in a row.

 

[iceberg]

No, it's a simple question and everyone knows what I meant. Do you want Drew here or not? Given that he took every single snap and Parcells is likely our coach, I would estimate only 1% of the voters voted Yes meaning as a backup. If you were one of the 1% please let us know. Talk about scraping the bucket - and yes I do think this landslide vote will bother No voters because they'll realize that only about 1 in 6 agrees with them.

oh gee - thanks. i never realized mine was an unpopular thought before.

the tragedy the tragedy.

 

[big_neil]

that's 6 years in a row elway was 85+

bledsoe never had more than 3 in a row.

Yes, but those were his last 6, and he retired at age 38. Drew could have 80+ at age 33,34,35,36,37 and 38 too, and he'd have 6 straight.

 

[big_neil]

i never realized mine was an unpopular thought before.

That's why we have this poll, to prove to you that you are so unique and special (I don't mean Special Olympics, but that too).

 

[big_neil]

Drew on the other hand just seems to be getting slower and slower and slower. And at 34 I would expect his skills to continue to recede... .

Let's see:

Age 31: 2860 yards 73 rating 11 TDs
Age 32: 2939 yards 77 rating 20 TDs
Age 33: 3639 yards 84 rating 23 TDs

You're a genius!

 

[iceberg]

Yes, but those were his last 6, and he retired at age 38. Drew could have 80+ at age 33,34,35,36,37 and 38 too, and he'd have 6 straight.

great. now tell me the 2 teams that gave up on elway and we'll complete the transformation.

 

[big_neil]

At his current rate of "decline" Drew will have 4000 yards and a 90 rating with 29 TDs next year.

 

[big_neil]

As of now, after 330 voters, precisely 1 in 6 agrees (16.667) with te likes of Winicki, Iceberg and Hostile.

 

[iceberg]

At his current rate of "decline" Drew will have 4000 yards and a 90 rating with 29 TDs next year.

well at least we ended the foolish elway comparisons.