Would you make a Dallas trade up with GB??

[CrazyCowboy]

It just costs too much to move up in these drafts.

 

[GlitzCowboy]

Really, who the heck is to say a trade like this isn't somewhere in the thought process, like in a series of events that could land us up in the top 10 or 5 to get our guy AP? Our 3rd rounder for a 4th to basically leap up those 6 spots is a killer bargain when you think about it, then whose to say we don't have thoughts of taking that 16 and moving it up higher on the board. That's the glory of having so many draft picks at our disposal and a guy like Jerry pulling the strings, we could literally do a few trades like this and find ourselves in the position we need to be in, in the end maybe having just as many draft picks, just a few spots down on the board but also with a player we really want out of the 1st. Otherwise if that doesn't work, like Jerry himself says, we'll go into the season with the RBs we have. Stranger things have happen.

I think this team really lacks a premier back, though. I've sold out of the belief that Bill tried instilling in us that we need a 2 back system. Just like the 2 TE set, I just don't buy it anymore. Those are really 2 things you only do when you're trying to make things work when you don't have the personal required to do it the right way. Everybody wants a fulltime back and stellar oline, but we didn't have that last year and bill did his darnedest to not only sell this train of though to the team, but also to the fans. It worked better than what we could've done in a traditional setup with the players we had, basically. But now with so many other pieces of the puzzle finally in piece, I really think Wade is going to come in here and concentrate on correcting the other glarring areas of need - basically, our running game and it started on the oline but now as the draft nears it's starting to move towards the backfield. Like they say, when there's smoke there's fire. Well, hello people, we can barely see through the smoke that is the rumor mill running crazy over a possible JuJo trade!

 

[Chocolate Lab]

No matter what happens, I pray that they don't trade down in the draft unless it favors the Cowboys in a BIG way. These is how the Cowboys imploded the talent level of the team after Jimmy left. Trading down all the time and then taking those lower draft choices and screwing them up. Draft what is on the board unless someone wants a player so bad they are ready to take out a mortgage to get them. Trading down does NOT help a team at all. Most teams take the best player available (player with the most talent) so everytime a player is taken, you lose talent that could be added to your team.

A team wants to trade up? Make them break the bank to do it. Otherwise, take the best player available.

That's simply not true. So the Chargers got worse talent when they traded down in the Eli Manning deal? Or for that matter, in the Vick for Tomlinson deal?

Better players are taken after worse players every single year. Bad picks are bad picks no matter where they are made.

 

[YosemiteSam]

That's simply not true. So the Chargers got worse talent when they traded down in the Eli Manning deal?
Or for that matter, in the Vick for Tomlinson deal?

Better players are taken after worse players every single year. Bad picks are bad picks no matter where they are made.

You are talking a 5 picks difference at the top of the draft. On that note, using the Chargers is dumb because the Chargers WANTED Manning. He just screwed them over and they took Rivers. While Rivers looked pretty good last year, I'm still not sold on him. He had one hell of an offense line and LT running behind him. You would have to suck pretty bad to screw that up. (several times he didn't look so wonderful last year!) Anyhow, Manning and Rivers place in history isn't set yet. Eli could still become a great QB. I think he has all the tools, he just needs the confidence. If he gets that, Rivers won't even be comparable.

Again, the Chargers wanted Michael Vick, but in the end knew they wouldn't be able to sign him just like they couldn't sign Manning and had trouble signing Rivers, LT, and Jammer. They did what was in their best interest. Anyhow, I would have never drafted Vick unless it was to trade him.

 

[ZeroClub]

Although it is occasionally possible, it isn't easy to negotiate an even-handed deal to move up or back in the 1st round.

So chances are that the Cowboys won't move up or back.

 

[Verdict]

Really, who the heck is to say a trade like this isn't somewhere in the thought process, like in a series of events that could land us up in the top 10 or 5 to get our guy AP? Our 3rd rounder for a 4th to basically leap up those 6 spots is a killer bargain when you think about it, then whose to say we don't have thoughts of taking that 16 and moving it up higher on the board. That's the glory of having so many draft picks at our disposal and a guy like Jerry pulling the strings, we could literally do a few trades like this and find ourselves in the position we need to be in, in the end maybe having just as many draft picks, just a few spots down on the board but also with a player we really want out of the 1st. Otherwise if that doesn't work, like Jerry himself says, we'll go into the season with the RBs we have. Stranger things have happen.

I think this team really lacks a premier back, though. I've sold out of the belief that Bill tried instilling in us that we need a 2 back system. Just like the 2 TE set, I just don't buy it anymore. Those are really 2 things you only do when you're trying to make things work when you don't have the personal required to do it the right way. Everybody wants a fulltime back and stellar oline, but we didn't have that last year and bill did his darnedest to not only sell this train of though to the team, but also to the fans. It worked better than what we could've done in a traditional setup with the players we had, basically. But now with so many other pieces of the puzzle finally in piece, I really think Wade is going to come in here and concentrate on correcting the other glarring areas of need - basically, our running game and it started on the oline but now as the draft nears it's starting to move towards the backfield. Like they say, when there's smoke there's fire. Well, hello people, we can barely see through the smoke that is the rumor mill running crazy over a possible JuJo trade!

I think it makes sense to trade up and get Peterson, if it is feasible to do so. I am not saying it will happen, but I think that it is more likely to happen than most would think. If Peterson is an elite back (like I think he is) then he is well worth trading up for. I'm not saying trade your entire draft to get him ala Ricky Williams, but if it is feasible, make it happen. Forget the draft value charts on this one guys. If we choose to get creative this could happen, though it is still a bit of a longshot. It would likely involve players, in addition to draft picks to make the move, but it could happen.

Being willing to part with Julius Jones, makes it a little more likely than it otherwise might be. If I were Wade Phillips I would really want the next L.T. if there were any way I could make it happen. Think outside the box here guys ..... you know Jerry is..... what if T.O. was shopped on draft day, out of the blue. Think there might be anyone interested? I love Roy Williams as a player, but what if he were shopped? I'm not necessarily in favor of those moves, but I am just saying it would be feasible to make a move if we chose to do so. For the record, I would be willing to trade T.O. I think I'd want to keep Roy to see how he would do in Phillips system.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

First, I'm not at all sure the Chargers were convinced Manning was definitely going to be better. Marty loved Rivers when he coached him at the Senior Bowl. Got a link?

But forgetting that, you're saying that if Rivers had been taken #1 overall, he'd have been better than Manning. But since the trade was made and he wasn't, he's worse than Manning?

Okay.

 

[amuze]

If we want a RB, we want Peterson, the OU product.

AP is DEFINTELY not worth what we'd have to give up to move to #3. There's no guarantee he'll be more productive than Lynch in the long run.

 

[GoodOleDays]

Exactly why sell the whole house for AP when you could get Lynch at a much cheaper price and a he will do great behind our new o-line.

 

[YosemiteSam]

First, I'm not at all sure the Chargers were convinced Manning was definitely going to be better. Marty loved Rivers when he coached him at the Senior Bowl. Got a link?

But forgetting that, you're saying that if Rivers had been taken #1 overall, he'd have been better than Manning. But since the trade was made and he wasn't, he's worse than Manning?

Okay.

Well, you really didn't read what I said. What I said was trading down a couple of spots isn't as bad as long as you get what you want and something back. The Cowboys didn't do that. The Chargers traded their first round (#1 overall) and got back the 5th overall a second round and a third round pick. The Chargers wanted Tomlinson. They could have drafted him #1 and been done with it, but instead they trade down to the 5th (they new they were going to get him) and pick up a 2nd and 3rd round pick in the process. The Chargers did the right thing. Secondly the difference between 4 picks is generally nominal except when you are talking about the #1 overall pick. Problem with that is we are talking about the Chargers. The Chargers did what made the most sense got something for what they had. Plus, the Chargers didn't trade out of the first round. They didn't even trade into the middle of the first round. They traded down 4 picks got what they wanted and cashed in on a 2rd and 3rd round pick.

Of all the trading down I've seen, the Chargers did it right. Jerry Jones traded out of the first round and then drafted fodder in the lower rounds.

 

[YosemiteSam]

But forgetting that, you're saying that if Rivers had been taken #1 overall, he'd have been better than Manning. But since the trade was made and he wasn't, he's worse than Manning?

No I didn't say that.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I would rather stay at 22 and take Robert Meacham, WR, Tennessee. I don't think we will trade up, and I hope we don't.

Good call Hostile, I agree 100% with you my friend.

Meacham is going to be very good in the NFL, I have him rated as the #2 WR behind Calvin right now.

He should also be there at #22, no need to do something stupid and trade up.

 

[GoodOleDays]

To me something stupid is keeping Julius Jones and not trading up for Lynch.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I would rather stay at 22 and take Robert Meacham, WR, Tennessee. I don't think we will trade up, and I hope we don't.

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[Beast_from_East]

To me something stupid is keeping Julius Jones and not trading up for Lynch.

The only back I see that is SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER than JuJo is Peterson, if he can stay healthy.

I just dont see Lynch as a franchise RB and trading JuJo to draft Lynch is not that big of an upgrade in my opinion.

Also, I would not trade up to #3 to get Peterson either. If he slides to maybe 11 or 12, I seriously think about moving up. However, I dont see Peterson dropping that low, so this scenario is a moot point.

Stay at #22 and draft Mecham.

 

[Jake0]

I think a lot of people didn't read the original article and are mislead here. The reason GB is a potential trade up partner is because Buffalo might take Lynch with their pick and they pick ahead of GB. GB will then not have to use their pick on Lynch and would rather stockpile draftpicks instead of taking someone they could get at 22 just as easily.

I'd do it if it meant we can get Ginn. I don't think Ginn will still be available at 22 but jumping ahead to 16 might mean a team like Tenn takes someone else. Ginn is the best receiver to take in our situation imo because of his return ability and the knock going around that he needs time to develop his route running. He can learn under T.O/TG and easily become our #1 for the future.

Meachem/Bowe, whichever is still on board at 22 would be fine with me though.

 

[Q_the_man]

If we moved up to Miami's spot at 9 (article mentions them wanting Staley) I would love to grab Laron Landry ahead of Atlanta which seem to be the consensus of where he will end up.



I don't see us moving up though.

Atlanta has Jimmy Smith to throw at Safety

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Atlanta has Jimmy Smith to throw at Safety

You mean Jimmy Williams from VATECH?

 

[Clove]

I'm in the minority here. I'm one of very few people who thinks that we don't need a bunch of players right now. We need a superstar or a star player or 2.

No trade down for me, I stay put or trade up. If this leaves me with 4 picks this year, that's fine with me if we come away with a star.

 

[jterrell]

I would rather stay at 22 and take Robert Meacham, WR, Tennessee. I don't think we will trade up, and I hope we don't.

He;s my early target as well.

Oklahoma kid who played at WR U and is big and fast with solid hands and good overall technique. He didn't play with Peyton Manning there and the youth at QB may be the only thing preventing him from being the surefire 2nd WR taken.

I like Meachum better than Ginn for sure and at least as much as Bowe. LSU Wrs have not been superior in their technique so I'd lean to Meachum who may have been a bit better coached on the college level about playing his position. LSU has had great teams but the WR position has produced tons of NFL talent that has been mediocre compared to expectations.