Would You sign Tony Pollard to a long-term deal for less than $10M Per Year?

[T-RO]

He is young. He isn't "mostly used up" at all!!!

You have yet to learn Running Back Age. You simply don't bet on anything past five seasons. Many backs lose it after three or four years.

People compare Pollard to Kamara.

Kamara...averaged 4.9 YPC his first four seasons.
3.9 YPC in year 5 and 6

 

[America's Cowboy]

Nobody is forcing owners to pay these QB’s. If they started letting them walk salaries would come down.

Regardless their salaries become talking points like with Dak his cap hit has only been 17 and19 million last two years which isn’t hurting this team. Not yet anyway.

Signing bonuses and then renegotiating before bigger cap hits come in at end of contracts actually limits the impacts of these huge deals.

Yes in the first couple of years...

But absolutely no during later years.

You can sugar coat this all you want. The truth is waaaay overpaying any player eventually hurts a team salary cap-wise, especially when that contract is fully guaranteed like Dak's is.

 

[CCBoy]

He's already getting his money for this season and the cutting of Elliott paid for this season. Next season there is a draft with all teams aware that Dallas is going to be gunning for a good runner.

 

[kskboys]

In other words, if he was willing to accept a three-year $7-8M per........


https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/mailbag-will-rb-pushback-affect-pollard-deal

Mailbag: Will RB Pushback Affect Pollard Deal?​

_With Saquon Barkley threatening to sit out and Dalvin Cook looking for a "significant contract," there seems to be some pushback among NFL running backs about their perceived lack of value. Do you think this affects the Cowboys working out a multi-year contract with Tony Pollard? Are we looking at a one-and-done season for him and the team? _– Tony Washington/San Diego, CA
Nick Eatman: Can't say I've really thought of it that way, but you're not wrong. That's how things in the league usually work. Agents know what other agents are doing and teams know what other teams are doing. Therefore, running backs probably know what other backs are doing, and certainly, what they're getting paid. But honestly, I think the only way the Cook and Barkley situations – which are obviously very different – would affect Pollard, would be in the Cowboys' favor

Absolutely. Something along the line of David Montgomery's 3 yr 18 mil contract.

 

[kskboys]

No, they should not have tagged him for $10 million. However, now, let him have a decent season, and get a comp pick for him next year.
Draft a RB.
I mean that is what I see on here all the time. NEVER pay a RB or give them a 2nd contract.

Holy Larry, why not? Who are you suggesting we trot out there at RB if we let Polly walk? That's nuts.

 

[jazzcat22]

Holy Larry, why not? Who are you suggesting we trot out there at RB if we let Polly walk? That's nuts.

Did you not read the part where I said ....draft a RB ?

 

[kskboys]

Did you not read the part where I said ....draft a RB ?

Oh, sorry, I didn't. We'd have had to go 2nd round at the latest, possibly the 1st. I think it was much smarter to pay Polly 10 mil for one year than to count on some mid round slug.

 

[jazzcat22]

Oh, sorry, I didn't. We'd have had to go 2nd round at the latest, possibly the 1st. I think it was much smarter to pay Polly 10 mil for one year than to count on some mid round slug.

Can't disagree. But it goes against everything fans on here say.

 

[speedkilz88]

You have yet to learn Running Back Age. You simply don't bet on anything past five seasons. Many backs lose it after three or four years.

People compare Pollard to Kamara.

Kamara...averaged 4.9 YPC his first four seasons.
3.9 YPC in year 5 and 6

Age has nothing to do with it. It's usage and Pollard is way down compared to Kamara on usage.

 

[mcmvp]

Probably not. He'll be 27 when next season starts. I'd rather tag him again for the 2024 season than bind myself to him long term, given that 28 seems to be the age at which most RBs hit the wall.

Truthfully, my first preference would be to let him walk. RB is a young man's position. TP has been very good but he's mostly used up.

More fans should look at it this way, but they get emotionally attached to players. It makes close to zero cents to pay a RB 7-8 mil per year when they are in their late 20s. Some call it unfair to the running back position, but it is what it is.

 

[CCBoy]

Probably not. He'll be 27 when next season starts. I'd rather tag him again for the 2024 season than bind myself to him long term, given that 28 seems to be the age at which most RBs hit the wall.

Truthfully, my first preference would be to let him walk. RB is a young man's position. TP has been very good but he's mostly used up.

Having just waded through Ezekiel Elliott's fiasco of a contract, it's unlikely the Cowboys want to get back into the game of having major long-term money tied up in the running back position.

It's possible the team could offer a two- or three-year deal that gives Pollard his $10.1 million salary for 2023 in the form of a signing bonus while also allowing the Cowboys to spread the cap hit over multiple years. Dallas could then offer Pollard additional guarantees that protect him in the event he fails to flourish as a full-time lead back.

A three-year contract worth $27-30 million with $15 million guaranteed seems like a reasonable baseline offer that could work for all parties.

 

[Havic]

3 years, 15 mil, incentives up to 18 and club option on that 3rd year.

 

[CCBoy]

Having just waded through Ezekiel Elliott's fiasco of a contract, it's unlikely the Cowboys want to get back into the game of having major long-term money tied up in the running back position.

It's possible the team could offer a two- or three-year deal that gives Pollard his $10.1 million salary for 2023 in the form of a signing bonus while also allowing the Cowboys to spread the cap hit over multiple years. Dallas could then offer Pollard additional guarantees that protect him in the event he fails to flourish as a full-time lead back.

A three-year contract worth $27-30 million with $15 million guaranteed seems like a reasonable baseline offer that could work for all parties.

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[kskboys]

Can't disagree. But it goes against everything fans on here say.

I mostly ignore the agenda drivel. To say RBs have no value and that they are easily found in the mid rounds is simply grossy untrue. Looked back at last year, and I don't remember the exact numbers, but something like 27 of 32 starters at RB were found in rounds 1 and 2. Those easily found mid round RBs is pure and simply a myth.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ollard-new-contract-discussions-franchise-tag

Tony Pollard open to new deal with the Cowboys​

The veteran runner doesn’t mind a long term deal in Dallas

By LP Cruz Jun 18, 2023, 7:00pm C
A few months ago, Dallas Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones had stated that re-signing franchise cornerstones CeeDee Lamb and Trevon Diggs was “on their radar.” However, this morning it was reported that the Cowboys are interested in settling on a new contract with running back Tony Pollard. Per Jeremy Fowler of ESPN, both sides want to agree on a new long-term deal.

“He’s in a situation, I’m told, where he’s looking at this as a win-win because he signed his franchise tag tender at the $10.1 million clip. He’s injured, coming off ankle surgery, so he’s got that security regardless,” Fowler said. “But if the Cowboys want to step up and try to do a long-term deal he’s certainly open to that. Nothing moving on that yet but there’s a lot of time before that July 17 deadline. Certainly, both sides are expected to reconvene and talk about a potential long-term deal. The Cowboys would love to get his cap hit down a little bit so they could sign some other players.”

DT

 

[kskboys]

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ollard-new-contract-discussions-franchise-tag

Tony Pollard open to new deal with the Cowboys​

The veteran runner doesn’t mind a long term deal in Dallas

By LP Cruz Jun 18, 2023, 7:00pm C
A few months ago, Dallas Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones had stated that re-signing franchise cornerstones CeeDee Lamb and Trevon Diggs was “on their radar.” However, this morning it was reported that the Cowboys are interested in settling on a new contract with running back Tony Pollard. Per Jeremy Fowler of ESPN, both sides want to agree on a new long-term deal.


DT

Now for the real question. Is is open to a reasonable deal?

 

[CowboyRoy]

In other words, if he was willing to accept a three-year $7-8M per........


https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/mailbag-will-rb-pushback-affect-pollard-deal

Mailbag: Will RB Pushback Affect Pollard Deal?​

_With Saquon Barkley threatening to sit out and Dalvin Cook looking for a "significant contract," there seems to be some pushback among NFL running backs about their perceived lack of value. Do you think this affects the Cowboys working out a multi-year contract with Tony Pollard? Are we looking at a one-and-done season for him and the team? _– Tony Washington/San Diego, CA
Nick Eatman: Can't say I've really thought of it that way, but you're not wrong. That's how things in the league usually work. Agents know what other agents are doing and teams know what other teams are doing. Therefore, running backs probably know what other backs are doing, and certainly, what they're getting paid. But honestly, I think the only way the Cook and Barkley situations – which are obviously very different – would affect Pollard, would be in the Cowboys' favor

Generally no. But you need to define how long and for what amount.

 

[pancakeman]

I hate the way the N.F.L. does running backs. They should be exempt from a rookie deal since their careers are so short. Their prime window is their first three years which should be their prime earning years as well.

Exactly.
When Zeke negotiated for his big contract, I thought “what kind of jerk plays that kind or hardball with two years left on his contract?” But the incentives are there because of the structural problem you identify.

 

[CouchCoach]

Pollard would have to prove he's 100% past this last injury to even start negotiations.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You have yet to learn Running Back Age. You simply don't bet on anything past five seasons. Many backs lose it after three or four years.

People compare Pollard to Kamara.

Kamara...averaged 4.9 YPC his first four seasons.
3.9 YPC in year 5 and 6

Its out of context unless you look at other things such as state of the Oline, Brees leaving, ect...ect... Its also his receiving abilities that have made him so good.