Would you still be a Cowboys fan if league was rigged?

[FanofJerry]

The NFL classifies itself as “entertainment” and not a sport. Surely that helps them evade any possible legal issues associated with shaping outcomes.

So...betting on entertainment, which is usually scripted, allows them to wiggle out of it?

Just that wording alone screams foul play to me. I wouldnt word it like that if I was worried about legal issues.

 

[Diehardblues]

The NFL classifies itself as “entertainment” and not a sport. Surely that helps them evade any possible legal issues associated with shaping outcomes.

No it wouldn’t. Because the NFL maintains that the results are of the utmost integrity of the game.

And with sports betting so embedded with the game with many franchises and owners aligned and associated if the results were deemed fixed in any way there would be criminal intent or negligence for profit.

In addition of these allegations the US Congress could strip the NFL of its Antitrust status which allows it to maintain their Tax Free status and ability to monopolize their National TV Network contracts that account for about 75% of the leagues revenue which are the benchmark of their financial success and popularity.

That said what is more likely at the core of these issues is a league which manipulates results with direction and mandates for officials along with new rules which have reshaped how the game is played and officiated which no doubt impact results.

But to translate these actions into individual, groups or collective organized league wide illegal throwing of games for profit or competitive advantage is quite a stretch.

 

[Dakota]

There’s been so much talk over the officiating this year . But my bigger question is why would you be a fan of the NFL if thought it was rigged or fake ?

Questionable and poor officiating has always been part of the game . In real time it’s often difficult to see very angle . I have a brother in law who did officiating at amateur level and said they simply don’t always see these happening in real time .

The only answer is reviewing every play which surely no one really wants . It’s already dumbing down having to review every TD and catch. Does the game really have to be perfection.

Regardless the sport whether it’s a ball or strike , a personal foul or holding and interference there is a judgement in play based on how they see or don’t see it.

But to suggest without any other evidence that multiple slow-mo camera footage officials aren’t privy to in real time . Over the years we’ve never had any whistle blower , a disgruntled former official or employee , not one bit of evidence of any official or crews of any personal or organized collusion to rig or throw games .

All we have is camera footage after the fact. And of course very frustrated fans who are beside themselves with calls which appear so obvious on camera .

I’m sorry but until further evidence that footage after the fact I’m going to call it more sour grapes which I’m not saying isn’t justified but calling it rigged is baseless . And if they truly believe the league is rigged then why so much vested interest in a fake sport ?

Wow. I guess 28 years of under achievement leads to outrageous conspiracy theories. Lunatic Fringe, actually a pretty good song.

 

[FanofJerry]

Watch sports, fake news, watch a tv show that has "supposedly" real people claiming they fell in love with each other in a week and will marry each other, watch a show with people trapped in a house fighting and stabbing each other in the back while the camera cuts to "cameras" watching the people as if they are lab rats and laughing at how stupid they are....

I guess I'll take sports. But it aint a fair deal. Players, if real, play...but the officiating is manipulated and doesnt look good. Makes you question what is real and what isnt. Why arent more people complaining about the officials. Seems convenient that there isnt more pressure on the league...as if everything is UNITED. Just like how are so many people able to live making 14 dollars an hour at department stores? Doesnt add up...math isnt adding up.

Me against the world. ahhh.

 

[Bobhaze]

Only four teams have been the beneficiary of more penalty yards on their opponents than the Cowboys, but fans see what they want to see. This isn't by accident folks.

It's a lot easier than accepting this front office hasn't been unable to get over the hump, and they have jobs for life. Let's find a scapegoat, the easiest one in the book.

You might need to repeat that fact a few times for it to register here Jake. The Cowboys are 5th in beneficiary penalty calls. Only 4 teams have received more calls against their opponents than our Cowboys.

Have we had some bad calls? Yes. Have the refs not called holding on players on Parsons in the last 10 games? Yes. Is there a grand elaborate conspiracy to screw the Cowboys? No. The league and these refs are not capable of something that elaborate.

I have two family members who are fans of other teams. They constantly whine that theCowboys are the “darlings“ of the NFL and get all the calls, etc. Again, it’s just what fans do.

 

[kskboys]

No it wouldn’t. Because the NFL maintains that the results are of the utmost integrity of the game.

And with sports betting so embedded with the game with many franchises and owners aligned and associated if the results were deemed fixed in any way there would be criminal intent or negligence for profit.

In addition of these allegations the US Congress could strip the NFL of its Antitrust status which allows it to maintain their Tax Free status and ability to monopolize their National TV Network contracts that account for about 75% of the leagues revenue which are the benchmark of their financial success and popularity.

That said what is more likely at the core of these issues is a league which manipulates results with direction and mandates for officials along with new rules which have reshaped how the game is played and officiated which no doubt impact results.

But to translate these actions into individual, groups or collective organized league wide illegal throwing of games for profit or competitive advantage is quite a stretch.

Did the NBA get charged w/ criminal intent?

 

[Diehardblues]

Yup. They really need to back off and reexamine what they're doing w/ the refs before it costs them a ton. Those TV contracts are going to lessen significantly if something isn't done.

I’d agree officiating has become more of a visible issue mainly because of new rules which basically leave them more vulnerable having to make more judgement calls on PI, hits on QB, etc. which definitely needs tweaking.

As always the league will evaluate any changes or tweaks needed. As Aikman said over the weekend , the rule on hitting QB’s must be tweaked .

Unfortunately the manipulation of the game with all of these new rules has taken a toll with more subjective officiating which is waning on fans as they see the impacts on the results.

 

[Diehardblues]

Did the NBA get charged w/ criminal intent?

What are you referring to?

If it’s Tim Donaghy he was convicted . Served time.

That was a personal situation not league.

 

[MS17]

There was a ref in a Pittsburgh Superbowl win that said they made calls to help Pittsburgh.

Can't remember his name now though

Was one that highly dubious pass interference call on Dallas paving the way for Pittsburgh's '79 SB win?

 

[DripTooHard]

This is a good article with quotes from former players. They noted the NFL is categorized as “sports entertainment” which only the WWE and roller derby share.

https://americansportsplanet.com/are-nfl-games-rigged-heres-the-truth/

 

[acr731]

I’d agree officiating has become more of a visible issue mainly because of new rules which basically leave them more vulnerable having to make more judgement calls on PI, hits on QB, etc. which definitely needs tweaking.

As always the league will evaluate any changes or tweaks needed. As Aikman said over the weekend , the rule on hitting QB’s must be tweaked .

Unfortunately the manipulation of the game with all of these new rules has taken a toll with more subjective officiating which is waning on fans as they see the impacts on the results.

Aikman would know. He might have had a longer career had he played under the rules of today. Instead, generational QB's like him and Staubach had relatively short careers because of repeated concussions due to the hits they took every game. It would be funny to see Dak having to play under those old rules, although I'm certain he wouldn't find the humor in it.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think it's ridiculous to think the league rigs games. But the officiating isn't very good at this point in time.

 

[Diehardblues]

The NFL with all of these new rules implemented in recent years protecting the QB, hits led with helmets and PI it has added more burden to officiating making subjective judgments.

Really the last thing we needed in NFL. More officiating impacting the results of the game .

The NFL in recent years had taken away some of that burden reviewing TD’s and receptions while allowing teams opportunities to review other calls and in closing minutes all plays reviewable by the booth.

Then the league added these new rules which unfortunately has added more liability to officiating. The league will need to tweak reviewing more from booth and or adding more challenges .

 

[foofighters]

There’s been so much talk over the officiating this year . But my bigger question is why would you be a fan of the NFL if thought it was rigged or fake ?

Questionable and poor officiating has always been part of the game . In real time it’s often difficult to see very angle . I have a brother in law who did officiating at amateur level and said they simply don’t always see these happening in real time .

The only answer is reviewing every play which surely no one really wants . It’s already dumbing down having to review every TD and catch. Does the game really have to be perfection.

Regardless the sport whether it’s a ball or strike , a personal foul or holding and interference there is a judgement in play based on how they see or don’t see it.

But to suggest without any other evidence that multiple slow-mo camera footage officials aren’t privy to in real time . Over the years we’ve never had any whistle blower , a disgruntled former official or employee , not one bit of evidence of any official or crews of any personal or organized collusion to rig or throw games .

All we have is camera footage after the fact. And of course very frustrated fans who are beside themselves with calls which appear so obvious on camera .

I’m sorry but until further evidence that footage after the fact I’m going to call it more sour grapes which I’m not saying isn’t justified but calling it rigged is baseless . And if they truly believe the league is rigged then why so much vested interest in a fake sport ?

I'll always be a Cowboys fan but if the league was rigged, I'd be gone as a NFL fan.

 

[Bobhaze]

I'll always be a Cowboys fan but if the league was rigged, I'd be gone as a NFL fan.

Me too. In a heartbeat. If I thought outcomes of games were being rigged or decided by anyone other than players and coaches, I would be gone as well.

 

[DripTooHard]

I'll always be a Cowboys fan but if the league was rigged, I'd be gone as a NFL fan.

• ”The NFL is scripted, but they make us sign something, so we can’t go into detail…Tired of holding back…Who wants the full story?” — Ex-NFL player Benny Cunningham

 

[Pola_pe_a]

The NFL would cease to exist if it gets caught manipulating games.

Vegas sportsbooks would line up along with every aggrieved bettor to sue the hell out of the league
Congress would attack all the special provisions the NFL has.
Even individual cities might sue for loss of potential revenue.

The lost would go on and on of people and groups looking to take down the NFL, This is the main reason the NFL was so concerned with gambling, Any potential impropriety could take the whole league down.

This is why the ”league is rigged” conspiracy makes zero sense, The NFL has literally nothing to gain and everything to lose manipulating games,

 

[Doomsday]

If I truly thought the NFL was rigged I would stop watching

 

[G2]

If Baltimore & San Fran are in the Superbowl.

 

[Loso86]

There’s been so much talk over the officiating this year . But my bigger question is why would you be a fan of the NFL if thought it was rigged or fake ?

Questionable and poor officiating has always been part of the game . In real time it’s often difficult to see very angle . I have a brother in law who did officiating at amateur level and said they simply don’t always see these happening in real time .

The only answer is reviewing every play which surely no one really wants . It’s already dumbing down having to review every TD and catch. Does the game really have to be perfection.

Regardless the sport whether it’s a ball or strike , a personal foul or holding and interference there is a judgement in play based on how they see or don’t see it.

But to suggest without any other evidence that multiple slow-mo camera footage officials aren’t privy to in real time . Over the years we’ve never had any whistle blower , a disgruntled former official or employee , not one bit of evidence of any official or crews of any personal or organized collusion to rig or throw games .

All we have is camera footage after the fact. And of course very frustrated fans who are beside themselves with calls which appear so obvious on camera .

I’m sorry but until further evidence that footage after the fact I’m going to call it more sour grapes which I’m not saying isn’t justified but calling it rigged is baseless . And if they truly believe the league is rigged then why so much vested interest in a fake sport ?

It is and I am