Would you take J. Stewart at #28

[Teague31]

Oh he'll probably be there at 28, but I wouldnt take him

spread offense= struggle in NFL

he's also injury plagued and coming off toe surgery

David

i agree with you about the spread offense but why is it no one is downgrading mcfadden for the same? arkansas ran a ton of spread and even had mcfadden taking snaps at QB a good part of the time.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Yeah, I would because I see us taking someone like Eddie Royal in the 2nd round.

 

[Bizwah]

Yes...I would.

But I think we would have to be certain that CB and WR would be taken care of in round 2.

 

[dbair1967]

i agree with you about the spread offense but why is it no one is downgrading mcfadden for the same? arkansas ran a ton of spread and even had mcfadden taking snaps at QB a good part of the time.

Dude, this shows you never watched the guy play.

He might have ran 10% of his running plays from that formation.

David

 

[CriscoKidd]

yes yes and yes. I think he is the best rb in this draft.

 

[Hostile]

The surgery will push him to the 2nd round, so no. Even though I am a Pac 10 homer and a fan of his, I would not.

 

[Big Dakota]

RB Stewart's surgery ignites questions

Draft stock likely won't suffer

By CLARE FARNSWORTH
P-I REPORTER
KIRKLAND -- Questions continue to dog Jonathan Stewart like a hyperactive linebacker as the running back from the University of Oregon and Lacey's Timberline High School prepares for April's NFL draft.

Stewart had surgery Wednesday to correct a turf toe injury. The recovery from the procedure will prevent him from working out for NFL scouts and coaches in a session that was scheduled for next week, and could keep him sidelined until the start of training camp this summer.

But what should NFL teams make of this situation?

Is this just the latest indication that he has durability problems? Some teams were concerned about that at the NFL scouting combine last month because Stewart had injury issues his first two seasons at Oregon.

Or, is this just another indication of how athletically gifted he is? Stewart got the injury in November, but it didn't cause him to miss any games last season or prevent him from running the 40-yard dash in 4.46 seconds at the combine -- while weighing 235 pounds.

"We all know who Jonathan Stewart is and what he's capable of doing," said one scout for an NFC team that is in the market for a running back. "We've watched enough video to understand what kind of player he is.

"Does this change that? No. We've known about this situation."

That's because the lingering injury, and possibility of surgery to correct it, was detected during Stewart's physical at the combine.

The likelihood of Stewart needing surgery was first reported Wednesday night by Mike Mayock, draft analyst for the NFL Network. The fact that Stewart had surgery was confirmed Thursday morning by Rob Rang, senior analyst for NFLDraftScout.com.

"It's a big deal because he's obviously a high-profile player," Rang said. "But I really don't think it's going to cloud his status too much as an elite talent."
The numbers point to Stewart remaining a top-20 pick.

He rushed for a school-record 1,722 yards last season, and also led the Pac-10 with 2,481 all-purpose yards. At the combine, Stewart did 28 reps with 225 pounds in the bench press and also popped notable efforts in the vertical jump (36 1/2 inches) and standing long jump (10 feet 8), in addition to his impressive time in the 40.

Stewart had been expected to go to the Carolina Panthers (13th pick overall), Arizona Cardinals (16th) or Houston Texans (18th).

"The surgery could drop him a little bit," Rang said. "But I don't think it's going to be one of those things that push him out of the first round or anything crazy. ... He's just too good a player."

Too good for the Seahawks to pass on if he's somehow still available at No. 25 -- despite their signings of running backs Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett in free agency?

Just another question to ponder as Stewart waits for his name to be called April 26.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The surgery will push him to the 2nd round

"The surgery could drop him a little bit," Rang said. "But I don't think it's going to be one of those things that push him out of the first round or anything crazy. ... He's just too good a player."

The draft can't get here soon enough.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

The PFW article posted in another thread said that the Seahawks were looking hard at him and might consider trading up to get him. It doesn't look like he'll be there at 28. I would love to trade 21 to the Hawks for 25 and get another pick - hopefully they would bite if they were worried about you taking him at 22.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I would love to trade 21 to the Hawks for 25 and get another pick - hopefully they would bite if they were worried about you taking him at 22.

We won't be.

 

[Hostile]

The PFW article posted in another thread said that the Seahawks were looking hard at him and might consider trading up to get him. It doesn't look like he'll be there at 28. I would love to trade 21 to the Hawks for 25 and get another pick - hopefully they would bite if they were worried about you taking him at 22.

You should back stab the Raiders by trading your #1 for Catfish Hall then you can release Shawn Springs. Get to work on it will ya?

:wink2:

 

[dcfanatic]

Oh he'll probably be there at 28, but I wouldnt take him

spread offense= struggle in NFL

he's also injury plagued and coming off toe surgery

David

Hey everyone, it's Mike Mayock! lol.

I love Mayock, but he is sometimes a little nit picky in looking for something negative about the elite players. As for injury plagued, he carried the ball 280 times last season and had 253 yards rushing, 1 71 yard rushing TD and 1 Rec TD in the Sun Bowl with the toe injury. It's not like he said I am hurt and I am not playing, rather he said I am dinged up and I still going to dominate you.

Charles Davis made Mayock look silly in his argument about players not being good at the next level after playing a spread offense by throwing out the names of Adrian Peterson, Selvyn Young and Pierre Thomas.

I would take him in a heartbeat if he were there at #28...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty7jBj5waIM

 

[dbair1967]

Hey everyone, it's Mike Mayock! lol.

I love Mayock, but he is sometimes a little nit picky in looking for something negative about the elite players. As for injury plagued, he carried the ball 280 times last season and had 253 yards rushing, 1 71 yard rushing TD and 1 Rec TD in the Sun Bowl with the toe injury. It's not like he said I am hurt and I am not playing, rather he said I am dinged up and I still going to dominate you.

Charles Davis made Mayock look silly in his argument about players not being good at the next level after playing a spread offense by throwing out the names of Adrian Peterson, Selvyn Young and Pierre Thomas.

I would take him in a heartbeat if he were there at #28...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty7jBj5waIM

FYI dude, Mayock ranked spread offense RB Rashard Mendenhall ahead of Darren McFadden, so you might want to edit your post

FYI Adrian Peterson never played in the spread offense....

and if Selvyn Young and Pierre Thomas are all you got, it just proves my theory further...thanks

David

 

[CrazyCowboy]

If he comes back 100 percent....he is worth the risk

 

[Teague31]

Dude, this shows you never watched the guy play.

He might have ran 10% of his running plays from that formation.

David

go back and watch the LSU game from last season... i bet they ran that "wild hog" formation or some other version of the spread the majority of the game.

 

[joseephuss]

The surgery will push him to the 2nd round, so no. Even though I am a Pac 10 homer and a fan of his, I would not.

I think Dallas is in good position to trade into the middle of the 2nd and then pick Stewart or any other comparable talent up at that point.

 

[dbair1967]

go back and watch the LSU game from last season... i bet they ran that "wild hog" formation or some other version of the spread the majority of the game.

I did watch that game, and no they didnt

David

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

No Brainer IMO. The only two backs I would draft in the 1st round of this draft are McFadden and Stewart. I would take him without a second thought. Our needs are really for two backs. One, a guy who can share the load or step in and be the primary back in case of injury. The second would be a guy who can be a third down back and possibly contribute on special teams. This guy can be a third down back for us. He catches the ball very well and comes from an offense that uses the backs in the passing game effectively. This guy is not a gimmick back. He's an NFL RB talent IMO. I'd take him at 28, no problem, assuming the injury is not career threatening and from all accounts, it does not seem to be as such.

I really like this guy.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

No Brainer IMO. The only two backs I would draft in the 1st round of this draft are McFadden and Stewart. I would take him without a second thought. Our needs are really for two backs. One, a guy who can share the load or step in and be the primary back in case of injury. The second would be a guy who can be a third down back and possibly contribute on special teams. This guy can be a third down back for us. He catches the ball very well and comes from an offense that uses the backs in the passing game effectively. This guy is not a gimmick back. He's an NFL RB talent IMO. I'd take him at 28, no problem, assuming the injury is not career threatening and from all accounts, it does not seem to be as such.

I really like this guy.

I agree this guy will be a star in the NFL IMO. He's got vision, strength, speed, moves and the guy seems to really like the game and is a first class person. I especially like how he lowers his shoulders into the defensive backs and makes them pay after they corner him down field. I just can't see anything not to like with this player.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I might but at this point I'm not certain that I would.