would you trade our #2 for Culpepper??

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abersonc said:
A second. Hmmm. He is worth a 2nd. But not for a team that has already cast our lot with Bledsoe. If you want success you don't change QB's every year. We have an effective one so we need to stick with him.
Valid point.
 

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A 2nd rounder for his talent is a bargain but with his contract demands and coming off an injury I wouldn't do it.
 

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THUMPER said:
A 2nd rounder for his talent is a bargain but with his contract demands and coming off an injury I wouldn't do it.
If the CBA isn't ratified and we face uncapped years his contract demands wouldn't necessarily matter if you front loaded it for that 1 year.
 

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THUMPER said:
A 2nd rounder for his talent is a bargain but with his contract demands and coming off an injury I wouldn't do it.

Coming off the injury is what scares me.
 

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Cbz40 said:
Coming off the injury is what scares me.

very true.... Having multiple ligaments torn in my right knee I can say for sure that there is a risk...... Didn't he tear the PCL and ACL?

Plus, I can't stand seeing him do that STUPID little dance....:ralph: :ralph:
 

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1fisher said:
very true.... Having multiple ligaments torn in my right knee I can say for sure that there is a risk...... Didn't he tear the PCL and ACL?

Plus, I can't stand seeing him do that STUPID little dance....:ralph: :ralph:
He tore all three if I remember correctly
 

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Hailmary said:
Will Randy Moss be included in the deal?

No? Well then, no thanks.

Why is it his fault that he had a great WR to throw to? Isn't that the basic personnel idea -- get good guys to put around your QB?
 

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Major, major red flags surrounding Culpepper. If this was last year, I'd be jumping up and down to do it (and so would 75% of the league).

However, since then:
1) He played awful last year. Less effective without Moss/Linehan.
2) He is coming off a major knee injury.
3) Major attitude issues. If he thinks he deserves a raise after last season, what happens when he plays good? How about when he plays average?
4) Think he was involved in the Love Boat scandal.
 

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junk said:
However, since then:
1) He played awful last year. Less effective without Moss/Linehan.

Actually, he had 3 awful games against very good defensive teams -- he was totally miserable in a loss to Cincy where he had 5 picks. He also had 2-3 outstanding games. 7 games last year is just too little to base that conclusion on -- since the Vikes, in general were playing like crap in that time. If Dante had not been hurt he would have had a stretch against some awful teams that would likely have put his #s back around his career averages. Brad Johnson who replaced Dante pretty much made a season out of his two games against Detroit, a game against Cleveland, and a game against a resting Chicago team in week 17.
 

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I think his knee injury, in a way, almost makes him a better fit for the Cowboys this year. I think he's going to need one entire year just dedicated to rehab, and he could sit behind Bledsoe next year, and be ready to go in 07.

But that's pure fantasy a) because he would never agree to it, b) he makes too much money to sit the bench, even for a year and c) he would be 31 with a major, major injury .. not really any different than Bledsoe.
 

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abersonc said:
Actually, he had 3 awful games against very good defensive teams -- he was totally miserable in a loss to Cincy where he had 5 picks. He also had 2-3 outstanding games. 7 games last year is just too little to base that conclusion on -- since the Vikes, in general were playing like crap in that time. If Dante had not been hurt he would have had a stretch against some awful teams that would likely have put his #s back around his career averages. Brad Johnson who replaced Dante pretty much made a season out of his two games against Detroit, a game against Cleveland, and a game against a resting Chicago team in week 17.

Great points. He had a great season in 2004 and Moss was injured for most of the season. Moss missed a few games and in other was a non-factor. Culpepper has proven he can be a very good QB in the NFL. He is worth a 2nd round pick based on his play. Now if you throw in his recent injury and the love boat stuff, you have to question if he is worth it. I would at least think about it.
 

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No - after reading the 10 million dollar raise demand, I dont think I want any part of Culpepper, Before reading that, I would have entertained the idea. But in all actuallity, I dont think I would have put much hope in getting hm here. If you dont fix the Oline, Culpepper wont make that much of a difference. Though he could scramble around and make maybe 5-10 more plays a year then Bledsoe. But in the long run, you cant live on scrambling QBs for long. If you dont have adequate protection, you wont have a good team peroid, no matter whos the QB.
 

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Culpepper for a number two?

Without a second thought.

I might be a bit concerned about what his numbers looked like without Moss....but he'd solve some of our O Line problems in a hurry because he does have good mobility and great size.

Yeah, considering some of the second round bombs we've had, I'd do it.

I dont think the Vikes would let him go that cheaply.
 

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Juke99 said:
Culpepper for a number two?

Without a second thought.

I might be a bit concerned about what his numbers looked like without Moss....but he'd solve some of our O Line problems in a hurry because he does have good mobility and great size.

Yeah, considering some of the second round bombs we've had, I'd do it.

I dont think the Vikes would let him go that cheaply.
That's reportedly what the Vikes are asking.

I heard Baltimore has offered Jamal Lewis. I'd bet that this trade scenario will get some pub if true.
 

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Yeagermeister said:
He tore all three if I remember correctly

ACL+PCL+MCL = BAD news! I'm sure with todays technology he'll do fine.... but I can tell you from experience, the thought of the injury stays in the back of your head....

I still remember the rehab from the early 90's and it wasn't fun!
 

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Hostile said:
That's reportedly what the Vikes are asking.

I heard Baltimore has offered Jamal Lewis. I'd bet that this trade scenario will get some pub if true.


Wowza....that's not much of an asking price...

Ya figure we gave up a third for Henson...one round earlier and we could get Culpepper?

I really don't like some of Culpepper's on field antics...but I would make this trade.
 

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First, he can't be traded unless he's healthy...he'd have to pass any teams physical before a trade could go through.

So...assuming he was healthy, I guess I'm the only one here who would gladly give our first for Culpepper, and I wouldn't think twice about it.
 
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