Would you trade Tony Romo for

[HappyOnions]

Romo's better than all those QBs and he has the numbers (facts) to back it up.

Which numbers are we referring to?

 

[JBS]

Griffin would be the best QB in football if he just worked his but off. Film and coaching. Shannahan was perfect for him, but Griffin blew that.

Umm. No.

Half of your post is correct. He'd be much better if he put in the work.

Learning how to go through progressions would be a start.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

come on, you wouldnt be here if you still didnt have hope. There is a difference in being hopeless and jaded.

I'm here because I've been a fan of the team for 39 years. I'm a Cowboy for life. Just because I am doesn't mean I'm blind to what's going on with the team. I had more hope in 1989 then I do now.

 

[Vanilla2]

RG3 had an incredible rookie year.

2013 didn't happen in your world?

 

[TTexasTT]

Which numbers are we referring to?

Dont let your hate for Romo blind you. You could easily cherry pick some stats to support a claim that he doesnt cut the mustard. However, even his biggest detractors wont agrue that as a whole he is a very good QB.

 

[TheSport78]

Well, you're entitled to your opinion...but his team still got to 8-8 this year...even with him stinking up the place...I followed the Jets somewhat closely and realized that The Jets won a game and then lost a game...Geno played great one week and then completely crapped the bed the next and the pattern pretty much continued all season.

This is where my problem with some of the arguments around here come from...Geno's team got him those 8 wins...but Romo got those 8 wins all by himself...Neither Geno's losses or Romo's victories had to do with anyone else other than them...

Romo had statistically the 3rd worst defense in NFL HISTORY.

 

[HappyOnions]

Dont let your hate for Romo blind you. You could easily cherry pick some stats to support a claim that he doesnt cut the mustard. However, even his biggest detractors wont agrue that as a whole he is a very good QB.

I don't hate Romo. Not even a little bit. I never once said that he wasn't a good QB in any of my posts.

 

[Vanilla2]

I'm here because I've been a fan of the team for 39 years. I'm a Cowboy for life. Just because I am doesn't mean I'm blind to what's going on with the team. I had more hope in 1989 then I do now.

89 preseason or post season?

Either way I think that's not truthful.

 

[TTexasTT]

I'm here because I've been a fan of the team for 39 years. I'm a Cowboy for life. Just because I am doesn't mean I'm blind to what's going on with the team. I had more hope in 1989 then I do now.

and you make that clear in every single post.

showing that amount of disgust points indicates hope, to some degree.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

89 preseason or post season?

Either way I think that's not truthful.

Of course it is. We hit rock bottom. There was nowhere to go but up. By 1990 I could see the team improve.

 

[LatinMind]

Win a SB? I just want a team that can compete in the playoffs and not be mediocre every year. Dallas did win a SB in 1977 so you're off by one but the team competed until 1986. The team had 5 bad seasons until they returned to glory and I watched them through it all. Except for when Parcells built the team back up, the Cowboys have been mediocre since the turn of the century.. 2007 was the only year since the SB years, I really thought the team had a chance at the SB.

So the Cowboys didnt compete in 2007 and 2009? Just like they competed in 1986? Parcells didnt build squat. Parcells didnt want Romo, Ware, Newman, Witten. Lets get this out there. If Carter wouldnt have been a coke head Romo wouldve been cut his first yr, Thats a fact. Parcells wanted Spears not Ware Thats a fact. While Newman wasnt a superstar, Parcells didnt want him, he wanted Robertson. Parcells drafted Carpenter. Parcells ripped apart the number 1 defense in the nfl statwise when he took over. And installed a slow 3-4. In 2004 dallas was bout to sign Winfield, had real talks with Berry but Parcells stalled and Winfield left Dallas and talks stopped with Berry, and Parcells brought in Marcellus Wiley, Tyrone Williams and Chad Eaton. Parcells brought in Fabini because he had played for him in NY. I get tired of people talking about parcells like he was a savior. Parcells pushed this team back. Dallas had a fast athletic defense when he got to Dallas. Zimmer was the DC and was a damn good one. parcells ripped up his work like nothing.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Stafford, RG3, Matt Ryan. Age would play a huge factor, each of them have another decade while Romo has 2-3 years.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

So the Cowboys didnt compete in 2007 and 2009? Just like they competed in 1986? Parcells didnt build squat. Parcells didnt want Romo, Ware, Newman, Witten. Lets get this out there. If Carter wouldnt have been a coke head Romo wouldve been cut his first yr, Thats a fact. Parcells wanted Spears not Ware Thats a fact. While Newman wasnt a superstar, Parcells didnt want him, he wanted Robertson. Parcells drafted Carpenter. Parcells ripped apart the number 1 defense in the nfl statwise when he took over. And installed a slow 3-4. In 2004 dallas was bout to sign Winfield, had real talks with Berry but Parcells stalled and Winfield left Dallas and talks stopped with Berry, and Parcells brought in Marcellus Wiley, Tyrone Williams and Chad Eaton. Parcells brought in Fabini because he had played for him in NY. I get tired of people talking about parcells like he was a savior. Parcells pushed this team back. Dallas had a fast athletic defense when he got to Dallas. Zimmer was the DC and was a damn good one. parcells ripped up his work like nothing.

Sometimes it's just best to leave it alone. I was that way at one time.

 

[HappyOnions]

Romo had statistically the 3rd worst defense in NFL HISTORY.

I don't disagree. But in that same regard, how would Romo do lined up with his offensive starters being Balil Powell, Chris Ivory, Jeremy Kerley, Stephen Hill and Jeff Cumberland?

My point was that Romo gets all the praise when we win from certain people and all the blame when we lose from others...both of which I don't see as being fair.

 

[LatinMind]

Latin mind is just coming out and saying "This team has to really fail and fail a lot for me to open my eyes, and say NEXT YEAR GUYS"

its just that simple.

some fans can step away from the propaganda and say yes JJ is the problem, but we cant get rid of it, so we have to look at other avenues, JG has proven time and time again, certain aspects of the job elude him. No matter the situation, you cant unexplain Chicago, Saints, or the Packers games. No coach should have the injury excuse that many times and still say over three years, 8-8 is acceptable, unless you are certain franchises, hey maybe we have become one of those franchises and some of us fans have to accept that.


For me, id hate to see the Cowboys go that way, but maybe the crowd of acceptable mediocrity is ahead of the curve.

You can explain chicago with 1 sentence. Romo threw a interception. You can explain the Saints game with another. They just kicked the Cowboys butts. The same with the packers. Orton threw a game ending interception. How is this Jerrys fault? Did he make Romo throw the ball? Did he tell the Saints to walk out ont he field? Did he hurt Romo against Wash and make Orton throw that ball?

 

[ElGatoGrande]

If Romo was going on age 30 instead of 35 I would say NO to all of those QBs, but since he's near retirement and the team's immediate outlook is crap I would say YES to any young QB that looks like he's gonna be a franchise QB.

 

[TTexasTT]

My point was that Romo gets all the praise when we win from certain people and all the blame when we lose from others...both of which I don't see as being fair.

Multiple players from every team gets this treatment. I agree its not fair, its just the nature of things.

 

[HappyOnions]

Stafford, RG3, Matt Ryan. Age would play a huge factor, each of them have another decade while Romo has 2-3 years.

I'd like to think that Romo has another 2-3 years...the question I have is whether he's closer to Brady, Manning, Warner, Favre, etc...guys who can play at a high level into the twilight of their careers....or is he closer to Donovan McNabb, Daunte Culpepper, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselbeck, etc....guys who once played at a very high level, and then experienced a RAPID decline in their ability to play.

Romo is like a carton of milk that's right on its expiration date...he isn't as good as he once was...not as versatile, can't do as many things as he could have before. When you first get a jug of milk, you can drink it, make a cake, etc...It's nice a nice thing to have - a carton of fresh milk in your refrigerator. However...once that milk reaches it's expiration date....you could probably still drink it, but it's only going to get sour and spoil as more time goes on and it's probably wise to go to the grocery store and pick up a fresh carton.

 

[TTexasTT]

Romo is like a jug of milk that's right on its expiration date...he isn't as good as he once was...not as versatile, can't do as many things as he could have before. When you first get a jug of milk, you can drink it, make a cake, etc. It's nice a nice thing to have - a jug of fresh milk in your refrigerator. However...once that milk reaches it's expiration date....you could probably still drink it, but it's only going to get sour and spoil as more time goes on.

Romo hasnt declined in any aspect of his game. If anything hes gotten better through improved judgement.

Does he look slower or weaker?

 

[LatinMind]

Romo hasnt declined in any aspect of his game. If anything hes gotten better through improved judgement.

Does he look slower or weaker?

Slower yes. Less arm strength yes. Could be the back issue. Could be age. Could be the hits he's taken. But when we saw Romo taking dives before players hit him this yr there was a problem. I wouldnt call that decline. But im sure he was thinking about hits. When before he was spinning to get out of them situations he was falling to the ground this yr on more occassions then he was making plays. When he was looking down field before for first downs on 3rd downs in past yrs, this yr he would never look off witten for a 3 yrd gain when they needed 6. That doesnt say decline, but it says something, and its not good.