Would you trade Tony Romo for

[HappyOnions]

Romo hasnt declined in any aspect of his game. If anything hes gotten better through improved judgement.

Does he look slower or weaker?

From what I saw this year, he showed that he still has some magic left, but yes...he does look slower...he's weaker, he's completely shell shocked (through no fault of his own). He doesn't have the same zip on his throws; his deep ball accuracy was terrible this year. Romo, whether consciously or subconsciously is playing to not lose. A LOT of three and outs this year because of his hesitance to throw the ball down the field. Sure, the play calling probably doesn't help...but he's ultimately in control once that ball is snapped into his hands.

The amount of interceptions that Romo throws has never really been an issue...it's just when he throws them...which is, fair or not, what he's known best for. Romo has declined, physically...but it's just the way it is...time catches up with people.

 

[TTexasTT]

Slower yes. Less arm strength yes. Could be the back issue. Could be age. Could be the hits he's taken. But when we saw Romo taking dives before players hit him this yr there was a problem. I wouldnt call that decline. But im sure he was thinking about hits. When before he was spinning to get out of them situations he was falling to the ground this yr on more occassions then he was making plays. When he was looking down field before for first downs on 3rd downs in past yrs, this yr he would never look off witten for a 3 yrd gain when they needed 6. That doesnt say decline, but it says something, and its not good.

Honestly I didnt notice him being any less evasive than he has been in the past. I did notice him not throwing deep as often but I attributed it to playing more conservative because when he want to let one fly, he would reach back and get it. Many of these things lead me to believe he is playing smarter. Im not nieve enough to think hes not aging at all but I didnt notice anything substantial. I fully expect him to be much healthier after this surgery though.

 

[funkytown]

Since this is pure hypothetical, and there is no reason to consider salary then you have to consider a few people on this list.

I love Romo but I'd trade him for Stafford in a heartbeat. 25 years old with 5 years in the league already, big time pedigree, huge arm, natural leader. You trade a 33 year old QB with multiple back surgeries for Staffor without hesitation.

I'd have to take RGIII as well. Too much talent to pass up.

 

[LatinMind]

Honestly I didnt notice him being any less evasive than he has been in the past. I did notice him not throwing deep as often but I attributed it to playing more conservative because when he want to let one fly, he would reach back and get it. Many of these things lead me to believe he is playing smarter. Im not nieve enough to think hes not aging at all but I didnt notice anything substantial. I fully expect him to be much healthier after this surgery though.

He threw deep. They just looked like ducks. Again a sign that his back was more of a issue then he let the team know.

 

[ftghb]

Taking age and abuse factors and potential for long term success

I dont see any Id take on that list.
Just Luck, Newton and Rogers

and they would utterly laugh in our faces if we offered such a trade. Be realistic.

Very seldom do you see qb's being moved for appropriate market value. Coaching, offensive philosophy fit all play major roles and qb's are probably the most tailored team specific position on/off the field. To the dallas cowboys, Romo is worth alot because he has been (like it or not) a team leader, knows the playbook, scheme and is the face of the franchise. To other teams, he's just an very good 35 yo qb with back problems who can't get it done in big games. But I digress.

If we're only talking about non-playoff qbs, then I would say stafford, matt ryan or flacco would be good choices.

Stafford is younger, has fewer no injury concerns, much more potential and more favorable contract. (the next order of business would be to get him some good coaching)

Matt Ryan is younger, no injury concerns, ~same potential (maybe weaker arm), and ~same contract. I view him as around the same as romo except he's young enough to start a new rebuilding process and at the very least, has had more playoff success with romo.

Joe Flacco is younger, no injury concerns, more potential and ~same contract (same guaranteed dollars). I would perceive him as an upgrade over romo because of his playoff success, youth, and better physical potential.

I could even argue for ryan tannehill based on his surprising play this year, SUPER favorable contract, considerably higher upside and the fact that he can 'grow' with the team under a rebuilding phase.

I'm not saying Romo is a bad qb by any means (in fact, i think he had the best statistical season of any of the non-playoff qbs), but the worst part about him is his albatross of a contract and his worrisome age (35)/injuries. At this point, i think we've seen the 'peak' of this team, as well as romo. So it would make more sense to commit those dollars to another franchise guy who can either a) prove they can win or b) is young enough and has enough potential to forecast future success.

 

[Nav22]

Which numbers are we referring to?

The ones that smart people who know football use to judge QBs by.

 

[TTexasTT]

and they would utterly laugh in our faces if we offered such a trade. Be realistic.

Very seldom do you see qb's being moved for appropriate market value. Coaching, offensive philosophy fit all play major roles and qb's are probably the most tailored team specific position on/off the field. To the dallas cowboys, Romo is worth alot because he has been (like it or not) a team leader, knows the playbook, scheme and is the face of the franchise. To other teams, he's just an very good 35 yo qb with back problems who can't get it done in big games. But I digress.

If we're only talking about non-playoff qbs, then I would say stafford, matt ryan or flacco would be good choices.

Stafford is younger, has fewer no injury concerns, much more potential and more favorable contract. (the next order of business would be to get him some good coaching)

Matt Ryan is younger, no injury concerns, ~same potential (maybe weaker arm), and ~same contract. I view him as around the same as romo except he's young enough to start a new rebuilding process and at the very least, has had more playoff success with romo.

Joe Flacco is younger, no injury concerns, more potential and ~same contract (same guaranteed dollars). I would perceive him as an upgrade over romo because of his playoff success, youth, and better physical potential.

I could even argue for ryan tannehill based on his surprising play this year, SUPER favorable contract, considerably higher upside and the fact that he can 'grow' with the team under a rebuilding phase.

I'm not saying Romo is a bad qb by any means (in fact, i think he had the best statistical season of any of the non-playoff qbs), but the worst part about him is his albatross of a contract and his worrisome age (35)/injuries. At this point, i think we've seen the 'peak' of this team, as well as romo. So it would make more sense to commit those dollars to another franchise guy who can either a) prove they can win or b) is young enough and has enough potential to forecast future success.

What it world are you talking about? OP asked who would you trade Romo for. There is nothing realistic about the thread...

You might want to check those "no injury concerns" facts you listed as well. Knee braces are just cool!

Whatever credibility you may have had flew out the door when you "could even argue" for Tannehill. haha "SUPER favorable"... Anyway, you know someone is really reaching when they throw around the word "potential" so often. Ryan and Flacco both looked like crap this season. That Flacco contract is among the worse in the NFL... Just ask any Raven fan.


Also, you should note there will be no "rebuilding" phase/process

The ones that smart people who know football use to judge QBs by.

You might want to post a link

 

[HappyOnions]

The ones that smart people who know football use to judge QBs by.

Wins or stats? Because quite frankly, I only care about the first.

 

[EPL0c0]

Glennon or McGloin

 

[TTexasTT]

Glennon or McGloin

Dont know if youre being sarcastic but neither of those guys really looked too bad. Dont think Id take them over Romo though.

 

[IAmLegend]

No. None of those.

 

[ftghb]

What it world are you talking about? OP asked who would you trade Romo for. There is nothing realistic about the thread...

You might want to check those "no injury concerns" facts you listed as well. Knee braces are just cool!

Whatever credibility you may have had flew out the door when you "could even argue" for Tannehill. haha "SUPER favorable"... Anyway, you know someone is really reaching when they throw around the word "potential" so often. Ryan and Flacco both looked like crap this season. That Flacco contract is among the worse in the NFL... Just ask any Raven fan.

And I guarantee you, no matter how bad raven fans think flacco's contract is, Romo's is infinitely worse. In fact, Romo actually has MORE guaranteed dollars in his contract than flacco, despite being older and having won exactly 9 less playoff games and short 1 SB title.

Like I said in the post, we've seen the ceiling with romo. At his best, he was still pissing away games on very talented teams. Now we don't even have a team that reach the playoffs. So how do you forecast a 36 year old romo, 37, 38, 39? paying him 20 million per year?

And if you hate the word 'potential' so much, I would LOVE to hear your reasoning for andrew luck and cam newton. Because I'm fairly certain they don't stack up to romo in terms of productivity, but there MUST'VE been a reason for you to pick them, right???

 

[kristie]

NO!!!!!

 

[Nav22]

Wins or stats? Because quite frankly, I only care about the first.

Then have a nice day. My post didn't apply to you.

 

[Frozen700]

Any of the QBs on the teams that did not make the playoffs this year?

Giants - Eli
Steelers - Big Ben
Ravens - Flacco
Vikings - Christian Ponder/Matt Cassell
Jets - Geno Smith/Mark Sanchez
Bills - EJ Manuel
Raiders - Terrell Pryor/Matt McGloin,
Rams - Sam Bradford
Cardinals - Carson Palmer
Bears - Jay Cutler/Josh McCown
Falcons - Matt Ryan
Bucs - Mike Glennon
Jaguars - Chad Henne
Texans - Case Keenum/Matt Schaub
Titans - Ryan Fitzpatrick/Jake Locker
Browns - Brandon Weeden/Brian Hoyer
Skins - Kirk Cousins/RGIII
Dolphins - Ryan Tannehill
Lions - Stafford

Some of these are an obvious no, but who knows...maybe someone out there has a reason that they would rather have someone over Romo considering youth, cap space, etc.

Matt Ryan has shown nothing to me that would make me think he could take this team any further than Romo. Same amount of playoff wins...with a plethora of offensive talent surrounding him.

Personally, I don't think Eli or Big Ben would be a significant improvement, although I'd take Big Ben over Eli if I had to make the choice. Bradford and Stafford's potential seem tempting, but their salaries are just as big as Romo albeit for not as long.

Kirk Cousins hasn't shown enough and RGIII is always one run away from a season ending injury.

Flacco and Cutler's contracts immediately make me say no, although Flacco's post-season record is quite impressive. Despite that, his contract would tie up way too much cap space.

For me, out of all those guys listed; I'd take either EJ Manuel or Geno Smith and here's why: It's a situation where you have everything to gain and nothing to lose. Both showed flashes of good play this year and both are young. EJ is much more or a checkdown guy as where Geno would just heave it in the air hoping for the best. If they pan out, then great! If not, and the Cowboys aren't financially obligated to stay with either one seeing as their contracts are pretty light.

Or, you could just grab Brandon Weeden and tank the season in hopes for Winston or Mariotta in next year's draft.

Just food for thought.

Big Ben, josh mc, and kirk.

mainly the last 2. Not because they are way better, but they are cheaper, so we can make moves with them, and Dez automatically makes them better.

Plus I'm sure they will not hesitate to get Dez the ball.

 

[Fredd]

to the OP

T. none of the above

 

[BIGDen]

Any of the QBs on the teams that did not make the playoffs this year?

Absolutely not! Good idea for a thread. There are only a handful of guys in this league who are as good as or better than Romo. We have been beyond fortunate to have him. When a guy has 31 TDs and only 10 Ints and was not quite right all year, you know he's pretty damn good. Hopefully, we have a good offseason and catch a few breaks (like almost all of the recent SB winners) next year. Of course by breaks I don't mean fractures. We've had more than our share of injuries over the past 2 years.

 

[EPL0c0]

Dont know if youre being sarcastic but neither of those guys really looked too bad. Dont think Id take them over Romo though.

I wouldn't give up Romo for either. It was more like those were the two qbs on the list that I saw having the most potential that could work in Dallas. I also think Aaron Murray could work. His ACL will likely mean he misses most, if not all, of the 2014 season, but he could come cheap and he could have a season to sit back and learn.

 

[HappyOnions]

Absolutely not! Good idea for a thread. There are only a handful of guys in this league who are as good as or better than Romo. We have been beyond fortunate to have him. When a guy has 31 TDs and only 10 Ints and was not quite right all year, you know he's pretty damn good. Hopefully, we have a good offseason and catch a few breaks (like almost all of the recent SB winners) next year. Of course by breaks I don't mean fractures. We've had more than our share of injuries over the past 2 years.

I used to have the same kind of optimism. Even as recent as before this past season started I honestly still thought that this team was good enough to make a serious run in the playoffs. I suppose ever since that 2007 season, I figured we were still good enough to hang with every team in the league. However since then we haven't gotten better in any... We've regressed and after 3 consecutive .500 seasons with our season ending with playoffs on the line, I just can't bring myself to believe anything will be different next year... I won't fall for the trap again because they haven't changed anything.

 

[Parcells4Life]

Mark me down as saying I'd trade him for a 3rd rounder or higher. Romo alone is not going to take us to the Super Bowl. With his back and age, it's wise to sell while he still has value. Do what the Colts did and what the Patriots do every year with players that show decline. I guarantee you as soon as Brady starts to go down, Belicheck will get rid of him