Would you want Dak resigned at Discount rate or let him walk/trade?

Aerolithe_Lion

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This is not true, it is as 25M cap hit and 35M savings with a post June 1 cut... everyone saying Todd France fleeced us is just recycling their own unresearched information.

https://overthecap.com/player/dak-prescott/4848
How June 1st cuts work is the cap hit is spread across 2 years. 25m$ in cap hit this year means you take 35m$ in dead cap for 2025. He then mildly ruins 2 years instead of badly ruining 1
 

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If he doesn't take a "Discount" mid $40million, I would make the June 1st Cut. $25 mill this year and $34 mill next and just ride with Trey Lance. He's only making $5 mill next year and they can probably give him a 2 year extension to see what he has. This should allow us to sign Cee Dee and others along with some free agents.
 

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Love him, hate him or somewhere in the middle, the man now has mental scar tissue.

We could go 16-1 next year, lights out Dak and then playoff time and boom!

Psychology and its impact on sports in a real thing, especially sports that require the athlete to diagnose and make decisions (golf springs to mind as another example).

I just cannot see him get over this as the QB for us, he needs a fresh start.
 

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let's just keep the loser. Between the 10 years of jason garrett sucking and this choke artist always known as dak, I have love laughing at this crap. I'd probably sign him for 10 years and let him sell his stupid "here we go merch"....maybe he can start his own hotz boyzz club with him as the only member.
 

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If we move on from Dak we’ll probably end up with 6-8 wins at best next season. If some of you think shuffling QBs trying to find one and missing the playoffs every year is better than what we’ve experienced the last 3 seasons you’re sadly mistaken.
Dak will watch Baker Mayfield play next weekend in the NFC playoffs.

Baker is making $4 million.
 

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Imagine having a rookie QB, or Cooper Rush, and the defense we saw on Sunday. 0-17?
 

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If he can’t win (which he can’t), why waste a penny on him? Makes no sense/cents.
 

KJJ

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Dak will watch Baker Mayfield play next weekend in the NFC playoffs.

Baker is making $4 million.
Dak and the rest of the Cowboys will be watching Mayfield next weekend because his team played a lot better than ours, especially his defense. They were playing a Philly team that had fallen apart. The Bucs looked a lot more excited about the playoffs than the Cowboys who were the only home team during the wildcard round to lose. Those of you who think the Cowboys would have beaten GB with Mayfield can’t be taken seriously. :rolleyes: The Cowboys have been a terrible playoff team the past 20 years regardless their QB.
 

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A rough period could be a decade or more. Some of you think QBs capable of winning SB’s grow on trees. We don’t have a team capable of winning a Super Bowl. Our biggest problem isn’t at QB.
KJJ - your point is of course 100% spot on, we "probably" will be worse without Dak.

But... .

Has he not shown us that he cannot play well for 3 or 4 games in a row against "quality" teams? I.e. the EXACT scenario required to win the big one?

The NFC East could be terrible next year so I could see us going 5-1 or 6-0. I think we have the NFC South so 4-0 maybe. Getting to 12 wins could be quite easy. Thing is, we play AFC North so I can see 0-4 or 1-3 and then SF and Detroit.

I will book it now we will not consistently beat the "quality" teams.

Use history as a guide here and look at seasons past that Dak played well against the "quality". Not 1 off good games, a few back to back.

Again, this is the exact scenario we need to win come play off time....not just get there.

Dak is a good QB but unable to do it come playoff time.

I guess I'm saying people (me included) are not silly, I fully expect us to go backwards initially without Dak but I'd rather do that than win regular season games with no glimmer of hope.
 

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If Dak is released, he has a $60 million cap hit whether we keep him or release him.
Therefore, the Cowboys want to sign him to an extension to prevent that big of a hit.
Going into the Playoffs, it was almost guaranteed that he was going to get Top of the Market salary.
Now, with his disastrous performance, there is no way the Cowboys can justify paying him that nor any where near the $50 million range.
His last contract averaged $40 million a year. In those 4 years he has 1 playoff Wild Card win.
So, do you let Dak play his last year and absorb the $60 million cap hit?
Give him an a $50 Million+ extension?
Would you like him to resign but only on a sub $50 million deal?
Dak doesn't have much leverage for a trade because no team can justify to their fanbase giving Dak a premium deal.
But the Cowboys don't have much leverage either given the Cap hit.
The Cowboys fanbase will be irate if he gives Dak a premium deal which would hamper the team for the next few years.
I want him Back but only if he gets a psychiatrist that can help him figure out why in big games he's got a dear in the headlights look pregame and then craps the bed and cannot read defenses during the game. Its like he's somewhere else for a while then snaps out of it. leave him in the locker room watching video of the defense or something.
 

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KJJ - your point is of course 100% spot on, we "probably" will be worse without Dak.

But... .

Has he not shown us that he cannot play well for 3 or 4 games in a row against "quality" teams? I.e. the EXACT scenario required to win the big one?

The NFC East could be terrible next year so I could see us going 5-1 or 6-0. I think we have the NFC South so 4-0 maybe. Getting to 12 wins could be quite easy. Thing is, we play AFC North so I can see 0-4 or 1-3 and then SF and Detroit.

I will book it now we will not consistently beat the "quality" teams.

Use history as a guide here and look at seasons past that Dak played well against the "quality". Not 1 off good games, a few back to back.

Again, this is the exact scenario we need to win come play off time....not just get there.

Dak is a good QB but unable to do it come playoff time.

I guess I'm saying people (me included) are not silly, I fully expect us to go backwards initially without Dak but I'd rather do that than win regular season games with no glimmer of hope.
The biggest issue is the team hasn’t shown us it can’t play well against quality teams. Dak has had his issues in critical games but the team around him hasn’t been good either, especially the defense. If we can’t stop anyone and get takeaways we usually lose even when Dak has played decently. The Cowboys were a bad playoff team under Romo. They’ve been a bad playoff team with every QB they’ve had since Troy Aikman. However, you can’t put it “entirely” on our QBs. Our defenses have been terrible in the playoffs. We can’t stop the pass or the run or both. We consistently get dominated in the trenches.
 

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Dak was under a lot of pressure after the last two years playing awful in the playoffs. He chokes so bad this year, he would have a mental meltdown if he stayed and they made the playoffs again.
 

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After a two day cool down period I say Dak is back one more year if only because of the cap hit short term and long term. Give him one chance under a new coaching staff and a different philosophy. Get a better o-line coach in here and run the ball like we did in Zeke's prime. See if we can recapture some of that 2016 season magic.

Bottom line is things cannot stay the same. Either some or all the coaches go or Dak goes. Given the fact this team is historically scared to start over at QB I think Dak is safe, at least for the short term.
 

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I want him Back but only if he gets a psychiatrist that can help him figure out why in big games he's got a dear in the headlights look pregame and then craps the bed and cannot read defenses during the game. Its like he's somewhere else for a while then snaps out of it. leave him in the locker room watching video of the defense or something.
I was talking about him seeing a sports psychologist last year after that 49er loss.
I think it's too late for him. At this point he is already being labeled a choker around the world. He needs to take his money and get outta the NFL.
 

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If we sign him to an extension I will quit on the spot. Mark my words. I'm almost completely done with them as it is.
 

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Dak and the rest of the Cowboys will be watching Mayfield next weekend because his team played a lot better than ours, especially his defense. They were playing a Philly team that had fallen apart. The Bucs looked a lot more excited about the playoffs than the Cowboys who were the only home team during the wildcard round to lose. Those of you who think the Cowboys would have beaten GB with Mayfield can’t be taken seriously. :rolleyes: The Cowboys have been a terrible playoff team the past 20 years regardless their QB.
Baker probably wouldn't have beaten GB due to several defesnsive and coaching issues , but Baker is a much better value than Dak , and Baker would have at least given GB a fight and not crumbled so quickly like Dak does.
 

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Another bed Jerry's made that the organization has to sleep in. Best move imo is to extend him and let him compete for the position.
 

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The biggest issue is the team hasn’t shown us it can’t play well against quality teams. Dak has had his issues in critical games but the team around him hasn’t been good either, especially the defense. If we can’t stop anyone and get takeaways we usually lose even when Dak has played decently. The Cowboys were a bad playoff team under Romo. They’ve been a bad playoff team with every QB they’ve had since Troy Aikman. However, you can’t put it “entirely” on our QBs. Our defenses have been terrible in the playoffs. We can’t stop the pass or the run or both. We consistently get dominated in the trenches.
Listen, I'm with you. I agree it's not all on Dak, Heck not even half is his fault but...

He does have clunkers for some reason and if that is in playoffs, season over.

I've supported him as a "like him a lot" fan, I.e I don't call him elite but I'm a mile away from the "he's trash" posters. I just feel I've seen enough and am willing to close my eyes and look to see what's in box B, even if turns out to be a Johny Manziel.

I know you see that as crazy talk but I've seen enough now to be a close to certain as I can be we won't win a SB with Dak so I would rather gamble and possibly look like an idiot
 
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