Would you want to sign Dak if he wasn't a Cowboy?

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Yes, and so would 20-something other team.s

 

[thunderpimp91]

Yes! I know this isn't the popular narrative on this forum but I can assure you the 55% of the Cowboys fans calling for Dak to leave Dallas either wasn't a fan during the Quincy Carter, Anthony Wright, Ryan Leaf. Chad Hutchinson and Clint Stoerner days or have forgotten how the seasons without a capable QB were like. I watched everyone of these games and can tell you the agony of those seasons was NOTHING compared to 12+ win seasons with Dak.
I get tired of reading the same 5 people posting about Dak's skills or lack thereof but who in the world world you replace him with (and I am not referring to some dream or madden simulation you did) I have been a member of this site for 25+ years and the amount of "this guy needs to go or this guy is terrible is nauseating. Aren't we Cowboys fans?

IDK I would bet that most people on this forum either pro or anti Dak are old enough to remember the years after Aikman left. You don't see too many diehard youthful cowboy fans dedicating their days to Cowboy forums these days. I think the days when teams would go a decade between competitive QBs is few and far between anymore with how offensive friendly the rules are, and how more comparable the NFL and college games have become. Even a team like Washington that we think of as QB deprived had a Kirk Cousins in their hands and let him walk. Baker Mayfield was available to whoever wanted him last offseason. Elite QBs are still few and far between, but the middle of the road guys can be found if you have a solid team build around them. The few teams that consistently whiff at QB are typically horrible organizations as a whole like Cleveland, and even they have a top tier qb in terms of pay right now.

 

[lukemartin79]

We’ve only had two QBs in our entire history that were excellent enough to win a championship, primarily because they had great teams around them. Both Aikman and Roger Staubach had their problems in the playoffs with teams that weren’t as good. If a QB is good enough to win double digit games practically every season and get you to the playoffs consistently, they’re good enough to win a championship if you have a great team around them. The Cowboys have been flawed in several areas, especially on defense.

Aikman and Staubach also had better head coaches. Multi- Super Bowl winning head coaches

 

[lukemartin79]

Super complicated question.

If he wasn’t a cowboy, he wouldn’t have the playoff stigmas he has. What team did he come from? If it was a situation like Kirk in Washington, then few would blame Dak for their incompetence. If it were like Purdy in SF, you could argue he was propped up by the rest of the team, but you couldn’t argue he wasn’t a playoff winner.

And then, who was the Cowboys’ QB all this time and what was he doing? If you were struggling bad, yes of course you sign Dak just to win some games.

Dak’s biggest thing going against him is he did play for the Dallas Cowboys. If he were on any other time, he would have been extended a year ago. If he were on any other team, the playoff failures would be a hurdle to overcome and not a character flaw. Think about Lamar, pre-trade Stafford, Carr, Cousins, Herbert, Kyler, Baker. People will nitpick their playoff inexperience, but it’s not that big of a concern. Because they don’t play for Jerry

Excellent point. His playoff record may be 0-0 if he wasn't.
If he wasn't a Cowboy, I wouldn't have seen him play as much at all. I would probably know him by his stats mostly, and therefore would think he was better than he is. Especially his stats last year.

 

[aikemirv]

From what I have seen with my own eyes I would say no. Now, looking at stats and like the normal non-Cowboy fan who would not have seen him play much you might pay him more than he is worth but the reality is his pocket presence and movement in the pocket prevent him from being the playmaker you need at the position!

 

[JoeKing]

Maybe I don't understand the question. If Dak wasn't a Cowboy, would I want to sign him? Does not being a Cowboy make him better? Is that insinuating there is something wrong with being a Cowboy? Are you assuming I want to sign him as a Cowboy? For $60 million I'm not buying.

 

[Creeper]

Is that really the question? I wouldn't sign him for $60 million now, as a Cowboy. I think the better question is if Dak wasn't a Cowboy and we had some 3rd of 4th level QB as our starting QB and we never make the playoffs, would you be in favor of trying to sign Dak? What would you offer him?

I do not want to give Dak $60 million. It is just too much money. I would rather build a more complete team and spend a little less on the QB. But If I was the GM of a team that had no QB and Dak was on the market, you can bet I would call his agent and find out what he wants.

 

[Sydla]

Yes, and so would 20-something other team.s

Would 20 something teams also want Kirk Cousins? And at a top 3 paid QB level?

Maybe they would, I really have no idea.

 

[nate dizzle]

Fans tend to get attached to players that came up as rookies with their team and overvalue them. Jerry is a victim of this mentality. If Dak had the same career ups and downs in say NY (pick a team), and we had a guy like Cousins already, or a promising young rookie just starting out, nobody would be here beating the drum to pay Dak a "going rate" contract to come here and do the same thing he does every year in the playoffs.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Yes, and so would 20-something other team.s

Right, name them.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Right, name them.

the good thing about this argument is its moving towards not being hypothetical, sounds to me like Dak wants to see how many teams want him...will it be 20, will it be 10 or 0..i think we will get an answer to this question.

 

[charron]

Not for 55. Maybe for what cousins signed for.

 

[stiletto]

If you are a team that goes 6-11 every year and is interested in improving at that level I can see their fans saying "OK". But if playoff success is your goal, don't see how they could want him. He's like a closing pitcher that is rock solid all year, like 1 blown save but blows the "Save" every time he pitches only in the playoffs. No thanks on that one. Too much evidence at this point.

 

[CowboyFrog]

If you are a team that goes 6-11 every year and is interested in improving at that level I can see their fans saying "OK". But if playoff success is your goal, don't see how they could want him. He's like a closing pitcher that is rock solid all year, like 1 blown save but blows the "Save" every time he pitches only in the playoffs. No thanks on that one. Too much evidence at this point.

most fans can seperate Dak and the Cowboys....the Cowboys are a playoff joke for 28 years, most fans know what the problem is in Dallas. Take the Fans of other teams on here now, would they be more scared of Dallas getting a new QB or getting a real GM?

 

[StarBoyz83]

Depends on who the current qb is and how Long it's been since supposed team had a good qb. It's not just dallas fans the give dak crap. I'd say most the people I see talking football qbs don't think daks very great.

 

[KJJ]

Aikman and Staubach also had better head coaches. Multi- Super Bowl winning head coaches

Hall of Fame head coaches.

 

[Proof]

It would generally be viewed the same as a team signing Cousins. I thought the Falcons could be a potential lively outsider next season...until they signed Cousins for $45 million a year.

So put simply, NO.

If he weren't coming off injury (and they hadn't inexpicably ignored lamar) I'd actually think cousins is a great addition to the falcons with their skill players. And think Dak would be as well

 

[CowboyFrog]

Depends on who the current qb is and how Long it's been since supposed team had a good qb. It's not just dallas fans the give dak crap. I'd say most the people I see talking football qbs don't think daks very great.

are you talking about media shows or actual football fans you run into, i see the opposite, i never see the Dak crap on the street i see in this forum and most of the fans from other teams I know think Dak is good and know that JJ is the Cowboys big problem and has been for 28 years.

 

[Proof]

Fans tend to get attached to players that came up as rookies with their team and overvalue them. Jerry is a victim of this mentality. If Dak had the same career ups and downs in say NY (pick a team), and we had a guy like Cousins already, or a promising young rookie just starting out, nobody would be here beating the drum to pay Dak a "going rate" contract to come here and do the same thing he does every year in the playoffs.

That's me for sure. Im a fan of the team overall of course, but become attached to the guys that comprise it. And as weird as it sounds, especially when losing. Just feels like you ( I ) want to get over the hump together.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Would you want to sign Dak to a $60 million per year contract if he wasn't a Cowboy and was coming from another Team?
I have a hard time seeing a fanbase being stoked to get Dak on that pricetag and preventing your team from signing many FA's and players due to taking so much of the cap.
Dak is known throughout the league/fanbases as a good but unaccomplished QB who doesn't put a team on his back and can carry them.
He will face just as much if not more from the fans of any team he goes to than he does in Dallas. Like us, they will be brutal if he is paid all that money and nothing comes of it.

I think they would, because 99.999999999% of these pundits are touting all these other QBs on other teams have accomplished nada. so yeah, they would. its the grass is greener on the other wise syndrome.