Would you want to sign Dak if he wasn't a Cowboy?

[WillieBeamen]

If Dak was an Eagle, Giant, or Commie, he would be clowned on this site religiously.

It would be like signing Kirk Cousins

 

[plasticman]

If my only other choices were Rush and Lance then I would want to, whether that was truly the right choice or not.

You have to look at it from the perspective of another team's fan. We are talking about the QB that is #5 in NFL history for career passer rating and he is in his prime. Other fans don't give him the scrutiny that we do.

Out of the 213 QB's in NFL history that has thrown 1000 or more passes (Super Bowl era), he is ranked #10 in lowest INT percentage. In fact, he holds the record for most career passes before his first INT. The previous record holder was Tom Brady.

Dak is #4 in history when it comes to completion percentage. Out of those 213 QB's, he is #19 in yards/attempt.

Yes, I know these stats mean nothing to many of us, but I guarantee it means something to other fans. It would certainly mean something to us back when Chad Hutchinson was the starting QB for the Cowboys.

 

[Mikexike]

It's still 6 regular season games including 5 games in the same season. The Cowboys went 5-1 with Rush under centre. Do I consider Rush the answer? Of course not, but my point is relevant as it answers those who claim the coaching is poor and/or the roster is weak. How can that be the case when the team went 5-1 with a practice squad quarterback and beat a couple of good teams including the Bengals (with Burrow) who reached the SuperBowl just over 6 months beforehand?

So the reason why it's relevant to raise is well Prescott has a good winning record during the regular season (as does Rush with a far smaller sample size) yet falls flat on his face in the post season. In my view a top 5 QB wins both of the play off games against the 49ers and a top 10 paid QB has to win one of those games. Prescott had enough drives in both games to get it done at least once yet he was unable to execute in the clutch.

The loss against Green Bay was more on the defense but Prescott effectively handed them 14 points in the first half!

Why on earth would a team with Superbowl aspirations pay him elite money when he has clearly illustrated over the past 8 seasons that he is not an elite NFL quarterback?

GB was one of the worst defenses according to DVOA, even people were saying their d coordinator was on his way out the door and then the dallas game happened.

 

[acr731]

No. Absolutely not.

 

[Ranching]

Let's say Dak retired today.

How many of the Dak fans would then start clamoring to sign Kirk Cousins if he were a FA?

About as many as the Dak haters would want to bring back Chad Hutchinson. Lol

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dak would be very difficult to replace.

What's he done that makes him to indispensable?

 

[HonoluluCowboy]

If my only other choices were Rush and Lance then I would want to, whether that was truly the right choice or not.

You have to look at it from the perspective of another team's fan. We are talking about the QB that is #5 in NFL history for career passer rating and he is in his prime. Other fans don't give him the scrutiny that we do.

Out of the 213 QB's in NFL history that has thrown 1000 or more passes (Super Bowl era), he is ranked #10 in lowest INT percentage. In fact, he holds the record for most career passes before his first INT. The previous record holder was Tom Brady.

Dak is #4 in history when it comes to completion percentage. Out of those 213 QB's, he is #19 in yards/attempt.

Yes, I know these stats mean nothing to many of us, but I guarantee it means something to other fans. It would certainly mean something to us back when Chad Hutchinson was the starting QB for the Cowboys.

Never live in fear , or not make a decision to be better because your Fearful . Winners knows this is how losers think . Winners never worry about being fearful of what may be lost . There will always be something better if you plow ahead with conviction

 

[acr731]

What's he done that makes him to indispensable?

That's the main issue with debates like this. The stans think Dak is irreplaceable, and for the life of me I don't understand why. What has he accomplished that makes him so valuable? We're not talking about a Mahomes or Brady level talent here, he's an average QB who can only compete against the bottom feeding teams. Turn the heat up and he's toast.

So why the hell is he so vital to the success of the team? He isn't, at least not in my opinion.

 

[boysfanperiod]

I've honestly stopped caring. Sign him. Don't sign him. I can't wait for this saga to end.

 

[KJJ]

What's he done that makes him to indispensable?

Four NFC East titles, the most since Troy Aikman was our QB and only Roger Staubach had a higher winning percentage than Dak. What makes him most indispensable is we have nothing behind him.

 

[sunalsorises]

No QB, outside of Mahomes, is getting $60 million/year on the open market.

I'd say at this point the hang up with signing Dak is the guaranteed money and how the cap hit can be manipulated around it.

 

[ArtClink]

Would you want to sign Dak to a $60 million per year contract if he wasn't a Cowboy and was coming from another Team?
I have a hard time seeing a fanbase being stoked to get Dak on that pricetag and preventing your team from signing many FA's and players due to taking so much of the cap.
Dak is known throughout the league/fanbases as a good but unaccomplished QB who doesn't put a team on his back and can carry them.
He will face just as much if not more from the fans of any team he goes to than he does in Dallas. Like us, they will be brutal if he is paid all that money and nothing comes of it.

I’d like to see Dak play for an elite organization instead of the dysfunctional Cowboys. If Dak sign a new contract here, my expectations will be the same as the Romo years. We’ll win a wild card once every 5 years and nothing more. Thats the ceiling regardless of starting QB. The Jones model cripples coaches and players and no roster or head coach has won a div round playoff game in almost 30 years and I dont expect anything to change unless the Jones family sells the team. Same management model, same playoff irrelevancy, lather, rinse, repeat.

 

[Rockport]

That's the main issue with debates like this. The stans think Dak is irreplaceable, and for the life of me I don't understand why. What has he accomplished that makes him so valuable? We're not talking about a Mahomes or Brady level talent here, he's an average QB who can only compete against the bottom feeding teams. Turn the heat up and he's toast.

So why the hell is he so vital to the success of the team? He isn't, at least not in my opinion.

No one thinks he’s irreplaceable. He’s just the best option right now and near term.

 

[Jipper]

for 30 million a year, sure!

 

[DickWhitman]

Would you want to sign Dak to a $60 million per year contract if he wasn't a Cowboy and was coming from another Team?
I have a hard time seeing a fanbase being stoked to get Dak on that pricetag and preventing your team from signing many FA's and players due to taking so much of the cap.
Dak is known throughout the league/fanbases as a good but unaccomplished QB who doesn't put a team on his back and can carry them.
He will face just as much if not more from the fans of any team he goes to than he does in Dallas. Like us, they will be brutal if he is paid all that money and nothing comes of it.

Sign Nathan Rourke. Dak hit his ceiling years ago.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Four NFC East titles, the most since Troy Aikman was our QB and only Roger Staubach had a higher winning percentage than Dak.

Both those players you reference are ROH, HOF and multiple super bowl winners.

Dak has 8 years of January flops. So the question again is, what has Dak done? What has he accomplished that the Cowboys need to pay him $60M a year?

If there is nothing behind him, then get someone. It's almost impossible for that QB to accomplish less than Dak has when it counts.

 

[plymkr]

Both those players you reference are ROH, HOF and multiple super bowl winners.

Dak has 8 years of January flops. So the question again is, what has Dak done? What has he accomplished that the Cowboys need to pay him $60M a year?

If there is nothing behind him, then get someone. It's almost impossible for that QB to accomplish less than Dak has when it counts.

The one thing I am stuck on is a Dak lead Cowboys team only got us one game closer to the Super Bowl than a Quincy Carter lead team. Both Dak and Quincy won 10 games and lost in WC round. Why didn’t we make Carter the highest paid player in the league?

I’ll give it to Dak that he looked better doing it but if you’re a fan that wants championships then there’s only a one game advantage over the Prescott era and the Carter era. So to repeat your question, what has Dak done to make himself irreplaceable? We replaced Quincy.

 

[KJJ]

Both those players you reference are ROH, HOF and multiple super bowl winners.

Dak has 8 years of January flops. So the question again is, what has Dak done? What has he accomplished that the Cowboys need to pay him $60M a year?

If there is nothing behind him, then get someone. It's almost impossible for that QB to accomplish less than Dak has when it counts.

Exactly, which is why I mentioned them. Dak has a better winning percentage than one of them and has been statistically better than both. I’m not sure Troy Aikman or Roger Staubach ever came in second for MVP. Dak has never had a Cowboys team that’s even close to as good as the great teams that Aikman and Staubach won Super Bowls with. Zeke was good in his prime, but he’s not a Hall of Fame back or had the longevity of the backs Aikman and Staubach played with. Dak has never had a defense even remotely close to the defenses we won championships with under Aikman and Staubach. Aikman was 0-2 in his last two playoff starts. When the team declined he struggled to win and got booed. Fans were pinning it on him. The last game Roger Staubach played for the Cowboys was a loss in the playoffs.

 

[KJJ]

If there is nothing behind him, then get someone.

That’s a heck of a lot easier said than done.

 

[calico]

Nope. His ceiling has been reached and it’s about as low as a pub ceiling in the English countryside.

There’s other options to explore.