WOW, did you zoners hear Nate Newton yesterday on Pat McQuistan?

[YosemiteSam]

After the first few days of training camp, Nate said that Berger would beat Kosier out for the starting job.

That being said, I'm not sure that Nate knocking McQ on his guard play is such a bad thing. With Holland around, the guard situation should be more than set. McQ is supposed to be an offensive tackle anyway.




YAKUZA

Agreed. Defensive tackles (300lbs) are more likely to be able to bull rush than a DE (usually 260-270lbs) which helps more athletic tackles. McQuistan's athletic ability helps him more with speed rushers. This is one reason Bigg Davis domniates at guard rather than tackle. Not to many people are going to bull rush him. As a tackle moving 360lbs laterally isn't the easiest thing to do. Playing tackle requires a lot of technique (due to playing in space) which isn't Bigg Davis' strength. Which is why he went from average tackle to a pro bowl guard.

 

[TheCount]

Agreed. Defensive tackles (300lbs) are more likely to be able to bull rush than a DE (usually 260-270lbs) which helps more athletic tackles. McQuistan's athletic ability helps him more with speed rushers. This is one reason Bigg Davis domniates at guard rather than tackle. Not to many people are going to bull rush him. As a tackle moving 360lbs laterally isn't the easiest thing to do. Playing tackle requires a lot of technique (due to playing in space) which isn't Bigg Davis' strength. Which is why he went from average tackle to a pro bowl guard.

So you're saying that since McQuistan doesn't have the ability to play the "easier" guard position, he'd be better at the more skill/technique intensive tackle position?

 

[CrazyCowboy]

if it quacks like a duck.....well, you know

 

[tunahelper]

Coach Parcells also used to ride him pretty hard. That also could be a factor. He might be one of those players who constantly has to be prodded.

Those are the players I would not want around. If you are not giving 100% as a backup you should be cut immediately.

 

[YosemiteSam]

So you're saying that since McQuistan doesn't have the ability to play the "easier" guard position, he'd be better at the more skill/technique intensive tackle position?

I don't think any position in the NFL could be considered easy. You try stopping a 300+lbs block of muscle with a high motor.

 

[jterrell]

good point nyc, maybe pat mcquistan believed that he had the team made and didnt try to get better after parcells and sparano left

or that with the different styles of blocking, mcquistan doesnt fit that bill now

i like nate, always have; to me, an offensive linemen that has played the game, was an all pro, knows what hudson houck likes in his linemen, should know what he sees of the current offensive linemen like mcquistan

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[DaBoys4Life]

If he can't be counted on to be a starter when someone goes down he should be cut.

 

[YosemiteSam]

If he can't be counted on to be a starter when someone goes down he should be cut.

Cut off your nose in spite of your face!

Who the hell are you going to replace him with? Someone that cannot even make the practice squad? Think about what you're saying before you say it.

 

[Iago33]

So you're saying that since McQuistan doesn't have the ability to play the "easier" guard position, he'd be better at the more skill/technique intensive tackle position?

While the guard position may be easier in some ways, there is a transition. You play a bit higher at tackle than guard and you have to be watching for different things. I wish McQ had transitioned without a hitch, but it's not a surprise that he had some trouble since he's been working at tackle for a while now.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Cut off your nose in spite of your face!

Who the hell are you going to replace him with? Someone that cannot even make the practice squad? Think about what you're saying before you say it.

Doesn't matter who just get the trash out while you can.

 

[Temo]

McQuistan is, and always has been, a developmental project. All the recent activity (aquiring Holland, starting Proctor) means is that the project isn't over yet.

No one knows whether he'll pan out, it's still in process. Unless, you know, he gets released.

 

[Nexx]

I'm pissing on him because I don't think he's an NFL starter?

I've heard plenty of people talk about his "potential" and I simply don't see it. I never have. His potential to be a career backup? Maybe. As a starter? I don't see it.

Amen to that. MCQ was hyped up by Parcells which for the most part has been a curse on most players. When I watch Mcq play he seems to get manhandled quite easily which isnt good for a guard or any other position in football.

 

[MONT17]

Who would you replace him with? Well as a fan we don't replace players that's the coaches and gms job but if I were a gm or coach and that's a very big if I would have no problems replacing mcquistan. I would replace him with a younger guy who is hungry and wants to learn and who is not just satisfied with a pay check someone who will fight for a job someone who will get pissd when the team trades for a guy at his position 1 wk after camp. Someone with potential

 

[zeromaster]

Davis was the 2nd overall pick in the draft, so please.

And no, he's not starting. He'll never be a starter. The only reason he's on our roster is he knows the system and he's cheap, so spare me all the "potential" talk.

He's potentially a fly in your ointment...
:laugh2:

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Cut off your nose in spite of your face!

Who the hell are you going to replace him with? Someone that cannot even make the practice squad? Think about what you're saying before you say it.

I'm all for people using little catch phrases or cliches, but if you're going to use them, get them right.

The proper phrase is "cut off your nose to spite your face."

The great thing is when NYC proceeds to tell DaBoys4Life that he should think about what he's saying before he says it. That's rich.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I'm all for people using little catch phrases or cliches, but if you're going to use them, get them right.

The proper phrase is "cut off your nose to spite your face."

The great thing is when NYC proceeds to tell DaBoys4Life that he should think about what he's saying before he says it. That's rich.

Wow, I typoed a cliche. So kill me.

 

[Vintage]

Why does McQuistan have such great potential?

This isn't a criticism; just a question. Does playing at a small school with little experience = great potential?

How exactly does McQ have great potential... because he doesn't really flash it in games I've seen. He just looks mediocre.

I'd agree if I saw him dominate from time to time.... but does he even show that?

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Wow, I typoed a cliche. So kill me.

It's tempting, but I just ate lunch.

 

[YosemiteSam]

It's tempting, but I just ate lunch.

Weak.

 

[Thanos68]

You mean besides the fact that he is 315lbs and by far the most athletic offensive line me we have? He was drafted in the 7th round because he had like two years total of any type of football experience.

McQuistan is the most athletic lineman we have? Wow...Thanks for clearing that up for me..