WOW, did you zoners hear Nate Newton yesterday on Pat McQuistan?

[cowboyjoe]

vintage, i understand what your saying

for me, i was believing in what parcells was saying in mcquistan;

so i trusted parcells that mcquistan was a player or could be

i think i remember a couple of plays last year where mcquistan did decent, not great mind you, but ok

it could be that McQuistan can only succeed in a system that uses blocking schemes that sparano used, or like the system that broncos use in their run blocking schemes and pass blocking, finese type blockers, quick and agile

but this year, i have kept my eye on mcquistan from when i could see him play and i just didnt see improvement, rather i saw him take steps backward

so i just dont know,

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Poor McQ. Newton seems to have hated him since the first day he saw him. He's always got something bad to say about him.

 

[djmajestik]

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A "distribution" of linux, linux comes in many flavors, easiest for noobs SEEMS to be "ubuntu" and my personal favorite, "kubuntu", both have the same backend, just different graphic engines so the displays are different.

 

[28 Joker]

I agree with Nate on this. In my opinion, this was McQuistan's shot in Dallas to start, and it will likely be his last shot. It didn't help him that Marten (a third round pick) is a bust. That variable pushed him back to tackle.

Dallas' back-up situation on the offensive line is much worse than I thought. Dallas made a big mistakes by drafting James Marten and Doug Free. They are finese players, and they don't fit the mold of the type of player that Jason Garrett or Hudson Houck want. Garrett wants a power running game. These two players are "too light in the pants". They would be better fits for a team like Denver.

I think the organization made a big mistake when they kept Bill Parcells' template for drafting players on the offensive line when Ireland was still with the team during the 2007 draft. The result will be one bust, James Marten (3rd round) , and one player (Doug Free/4th round) who may have trade value some day. In my opinion, Free is too light to play tackle in Dallas. He simply doesn't fit what Dallas wants to do. However, Parcells would like him, but that doesn't do Dallas any good.

Look how light these guys are:

Free 6-6 306
Marten 6-7 303
McQuistan 6-6 311 (7th Round)
Proctor 6-4 297 (Detroit Practice Squad)
Berger 6-5 304 (Dolphins Practice Squad)

I thought McQuistan was up to 325, but he is listed at 311 this year. I think he had the best shot of any of these guys to start in Dallas, but his chance just past him by.

It is a good thing Dallas acquired Holland. Let's hope they ditch Parcells' template for drafting on the offensive line. I think they definately will ditch that template, but they should have done it in 2007.

Jacob Rodgers 2nd Round
Stephen Peterman 3rd Round
Al Johnson 2nd Round
James Marten 3rd Round
Doug Free 4th Round


This isn't counting the big money paid out to Marco Rivera and the deal Kosier received. At least, Kosier has been solid.

I expect Dallas to address this situation with multiple draft picks in the 2009 draft, and I expect an offensive tackle in round one or two. Free should have some trade value. I would flip Marten for a pick right now if I could. However, with the way he's played, you probably couldn't get a pair of shoes for him.

 

[jobberone]

Wow, I typoed a cliche. So kill me.

There going to take you out back and beat the crap out of you.


Bet you won't do that again.


:laugh2:

 

[theogt]

I'm not sure what anyone ever saw in the guy to think he can play at this level.

People were claiming he'd beat out Kosier last offseason, but he couldn't even win a wide open job when he was practically handed it.

 

[28 Joker]

I'm not sure what anyone ever saw in the guy to think he can play at this level.

People were claiming he'd beat out Kosier last offseason, but he couldn't even win a wide open job when he was practically handed it.

The plan was to move McQuistan to guard in 2007, but Adams and Colombo were hurt and missed time in the OTAs and mini-camps. This caused the coaches to move him back to tackle where Adams' and Columbo's reps were monitored during camp. You could argue that this affected his development at guard. It is hard to win the job when they move you back to tackle.

 

[Stash]

The plan was to move McQuistan to guard in 2007, but Adams and Colombo were hurt and missed time in the OTAs and mini-camps. This caused the coaches to move him back to tackle where Adams' and Columbo's reps were monitored during camp. You could argue that this affected his development at guard. It is hard to win the job when they move you back to tackle.

So what was his excuse for looking lousy at tackle as well?

It sounds to me like the same excuse that's being made for why Marten can't play either.

I'd dump the two of them and fill the roster spaces with journeymen who can at least play this year.

Then they can look for new 'projects' next year.

 

[AKATheRake]

Davis was the 2nd overall pick in the draft, so please.

And no, he's not starting. He'll never be a starter. The only reason he's on our roster is he knows the system and he's cheap, so spare me all the "potential" talk.

Unreal,"some people said the same thing about Bigg". Just not comparable. Bigg played on a line in Arizona full of shlups. McDonald's has a shot at playing between 2 perennial pro bowlers and 3 total on the line. I said this yesterday when I heard Proctor took McRed's opportunity at LG, not surprised. The guy is a push over, Nate Newton is right. The guy's a big mope that we as fans are just hoping is a diamond in the rough. There is nothing rough about McRed and there is not a nasty bone in his body or any of the linemen we seem to draft, no matter their size and athleticism, yet we don't get why we can't draft O-Lienmen. We draft big quick feeted mopes that got their lunch taken from them in high school. McDonald's in no different. He's had 3 years, tell himto hit the bricks. Even his brother in Oakland is a push over, another pair of red headed Gallery's. Big sloppy harmless mopes. Sorry, but it is what it is!

 

[AKATheRake]

So what was his excuse for looking lousy at tackle as well?

It sounds to me like the same excuse that's being made for why Marten can't play either.

I'd dump the two of them and fill the roster spaces with journeymen who can at least play this year.

Then they can look for new 'projects' next year.

Now here is a fan that knows what he is talking about, minus the journeymen. I honestly rather have Houck scout for the OL than our scouting department in that regard. Everything else I think our scouts dept. is one of the better. The best OL are ferocious on the field, aren't afraid to impose their size and will on their opponent. These shlups we draft and pick offof waivers are reactive OL. Colombo's knees are shot, the guys athleticism is shot, but heck is that guy mean and use his size. That's the difference.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

So what was his excuse for looking lousy at tackle as well?

It sounds to me like the same excuse that's being made for why Marten can't play either.

I'd dump the two of them and fill the roster spaces with journeymen who can at least play this year.

Then they can look for new 'projects' next year.

 

[Stash]

Now here is a fan that knows what he is talking about, minus the journeymen. I honestly rather have Houck scout for the OL than our scouting department in that regard. Everything else I think our scouts dept. is one of the better. The best OL are ferocious on the field, aren't afraid to impose their size and will on their opponent. These shlups we draft and pick offof waivers are reactive OL. Colombo's knees are shot, the guys athleticism is shot, but heck is that guy mean and use his size. That's the difference.

Two former 'Houck guys' currently on the market are Toniu Fonoti and Shane Olivea.

Both have 'issues' but not being able to play the game of football isn't one of them.

Personally, I think either or both would be an upgrade.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So what was his excuse for looking lousy at tackle as well?

It sounds to me like the same excuse that's being made for why Marten can't play either.

I'd dump the two of them and fill the roster spaces with journeymen who can at least play this year.

Then they can look for new 'projects' next year.

inexperience

his total years playing Oline in college in the NFl, combined...

4 years

 

[DaBoys4Life]

inexperience

his total years playing Oline in college in the NFl, combined...

4 years

that's not our problem though.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

that's not our problem though.

it is your problem when you have unrealistic expectations

 

[DaBoys4Life]

it is your problem when you have unrealistic expectations

unrealistic expectations is use thinking Mcquistan is going to be a starter in this league we need to cut our loses and get someone who can actually play at this level.

 

[AKATheRake]

Two former 'Houck guys' currently on the market are Toniu Fonoti and Shane Olivea.

Both have 'issues' but not being able to play the game of football isn't one of them.

Personally, I think either or both would be an upgrade.

Up until last year Olivea was the young promising RT that everyone had the hardy nardies for. Fonoti when playing was a monster. All this happened when Houck took off to Miami, If he can straighten them out there's at least 4-5 OL on this team I'd take them over. Those are two nasty linemen. Just ferocious that Fonoti, a real nasty Hawaiin.

 

[Stash]

it is your problem when you have unrealistic expectations

Yeah, but that doesn't give him an 'excuse' to hang around.

If he's so 'raw' that the team can't count on him, he shouldn't be here.

Lowber had measurables that McQuistan could only dream of and his 'inexperience' cost him a roster spot - even on the practice squad.

This team is on a Super Bowl mission and I feel that if a player is incapable of contributing to that - for whatever reason - he shouldn't be here.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Yeah, but that doesn't give him an 'excuse' to hang around.

If he's so 'raw' that the team can't count on him, he shouldn't be here.

Lowber had measurables that McQuistan could only dream of and his 'inexperience' cost him a roster spot - even on the practice squad.

This team is on a Super Bowl mission and I feel that if a player is incapable of contributing to that - for whatever reason - he shouldn't be here.

 

[AKATheRake]

unrealistic expectations is use thinking Mcquistan is going to be a starter in this league we need to cut our loses and get someone who can actually play at this level.

Dead on!!!! Tell McDonald's to hit the bricks. He's weak and a push over. We will never win a championship having a lost lamb like that on our team. Marten and McDonald's will never make it. Proctor and Beger, serviceable, have reached their ceiling. Free let him continue praticing, not overly strong but got some spine. Montrae Holland is a good grab, don't hear that Denver Bronco BS.