WOW, did you zoners hear Nate Newton yesterday on Pat McQuistan?

[Bob Sacamano]

unrealistic expectations is use thinking Mcquistan is going to be a starter in this league we need to cut our loses and get someone who can actually play at this level.

our starting line is set for the foreseeable future, McQ could just develop into a valuable, swing OT/OG

not bad for a 7th round pick, and pretty damn important to have if you want to be a winning ball-club

Yeah, but that doesn't give him an 'excuse' to hang around.

If he's so 'raw' that the team can't count on him, he shouldn't be here.

Lowber had measurables that McQuistan could only dream of and his 'inexperience' cost him a roster spot - even on the practice squad.

This team is on a Super Bowl mission and I feel that if a player is incapable of contributing to that - for whatever reason - he shouldn't be here.

"hang around" as in being developed?

really, what were your expectations? because I can tell you right now that they are/were pretty unreasonable considering McQ is raw as hell

4 years playing Oline, 2 as a college OG, 2 as an NFL OT

 

[Thomas82]

You mean besides the fact that he is 315lbs and by far the most athletic offensive line me we have? He was drafted in the 7th round because he had like two years total of any type of football experience.

What spot was his twin brother drafted in? I see he's starting for the Raiders.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

our starting line is set for the foreseeable future, McQ could just develop into a valuable, swing OT/OG

not bad for a 7th round pick, and pretty damn important to have if you want to be a winning ball-club



"hang around" as in being developed?

really, what were your expectations? because I can tell you right now that they are/were pretty unreasonable considering McQ is raw as hell

So cut him and put him on the PS or something. If he's so raw. We have back ups that when an injury happens can't even step up and play thats pathetic. We need to clean up the crap and go in a new direction.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

What spot was his twin brother drafted in? I see he's starting for the Raiders.

his brother was drafted a couple of rounds ahead of him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So cut him and put him on the PS or something. If he's so raw. We have back ups that when an injury happens can't even step up and play thats pathetic. We need to clean up the crap and go in a new direction.

the fact that a respected Oline coach didn't feel the need to cut McQ should tell you something

it's a process dude, any realistic person would know that

his brother was drafted a couple of rounds ahead of him.

his brother was a 3rd round pick, McQ was a 7th

that's quite more than a couple rounds

 

[Stash]

our starting line is set for the foreseeable future, McQ could just develop into a valuable, swing OT/OG

not bad for a 7th round pick, and pretty damn important to have if you want to be a winning ball-club

How is it in any way 'set'?

By populating it with guys incapable of playing when needed?

"hang around" as in being developed?

really, what were your expectations? because I can tell you right now that they are/were pretty unreasonable considering McQ is raw as hell

4 years playing Oline, 2 as a college OG, 2 as an NFL OT

He's had over two seasons to 'develop' and looked in over his head against other teams' backups.

My 'expectations' are that he be capable. Not a star, not a starter, just capable. He's shown me he's not capable.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

How is it in any way 'set'?

By populating it with guys incapable of playing when needed?

they can't be capable of playing in the future?

and I said "starting" line

He's had over two seasons to 'develop' and looked in over his head against other teams' backups.

My 'expectations' are that he be capable. Not a star, not a starter, just capable. He's shown me he's not capable.

4 years of competitive football, half of that term playing seperate positions is not conducive to proving capable at this point

that's why he's still here, and your expectations are unreasonable

 

[DaBoys4Life]

the fact that a respected Oline coach didn't feel the need to cut McQ should tell you something

it's a process dude, any realistic person would know that

So how long do we wait for some one with little experience and can't be counted on in time of an injury????? I understand that it's a process however theres a time when we have to look at our players and say hey you're not where you should be at nor will you be at where we are expecting.

There's a couple of players on our roster that shouldn't be there and can't be depended on however we have been baby people that haven't give us anything back in return.

his brother was a 3rd round pick, McQ was a 7th

that's quite more than a couple rounds

thats just splitting hairs when I said couple it didn't necessarily have to mean to.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So how long do we wait for some one with little experience and can't be counted on in time of an injury????? I understand that it's a process however theres a time when we have to look at our players and say hey you're not where you should be at nor will you be at where we are expecting.

well obviously Dallas wasn't expecting McQ to be a finished product at this point

There's a couple of players on our roster that shouldn't be there and can't be depended on however we have been baby people that haven't give us anything back in return.

so developing someone who is in dire need of teaching because of his vast inexperience is somehow babying now? lol wow

thats just splitting hairs when I said couple it didn't necessarily have to mean to.

I strive to be precise in what I say, you should too

 

[DaBoys4Life]

they can't be capable of playing in the future?

and I said "starting" line



4 years of competitive football, half of that term playing seperate positions is not conducive to proving capable at this point

that's why he's still here, and your expectations are unreasonable

This isn't some kiddie league we don't need to cuddle people that don't perform if he can't play has to little experience and can't fill in when people are injured then he shouldn't be there.

 

[Stash]

they can't be capable of playing in the future?

and I said "starting" line

Sorry, missed the part about 'starting line' but Colombo may soon be gone if he's not re-signed. None of the backups can be considered as a possible replacement.

4 years of competitive football, half of that term playing seperate positions is not conducive to proving capable at this point

that's why he's still here, and your expectations are unreasonable

Hey, it's not my problem that McQuistan has no experience, it's his. If he's not capable of contributing, I wouldn't waste any more time. When this team needed help up front, he showed that he was incapable of getting the job done.

That says 'get another guy' to me.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

well obviously Dallas wasn't expecting McQ to be a finished product at this point




so developing someone who is in dire need of teaching because of his vast inexperience is somehow babying now? lol wow



I strive to be precise in what I say, you should too

but back ups are expected to come in and fill in during injuries he can't do that therefore he is useless.

IDC how lil football experience he has if you can't get the job done then you shouldn't be there.

What ever its not that big of a deal couple was wrong good job I wasn't sure when his brother was drafted just knew he got drafted ahead of him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This isn't some kiddie league we don't need to cuddle people that don't perform if he can't play has to little experience and can't fill in when people are injured then he shouldn't be there.

we're not cuddling McQ

we know he's terribly inexperienced, so the timetable for him is different from some player who played college football extensively for a top program

it's called creating a reasonable expectation of someone

 

[DaBoys4Life]

we're not cuddling McQ

we know he's terribly inexperienced, so the timetable for him is different from some player who played college football extensively for a top program

it's called creating a reasonable expectation of someone

So who have we brought in that could be a solid backup outside of Holland????

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So who have we brought in that could be a solid backup outside of Holland????

we drafted Doug Free and James Marten not that long ago

you can't afford this day an age to have solid backups everywhere, you have to draft and develop some

 

[DaBoys4Life]

we drafted Doug Free and James Marten not that long ago

you can't afford this day an age to have solid backups everywhere, you have to draft and develop some

They all suck

 

[Bob Sacamano]

They all suck

maybe now they do

but you said could in the 1st place, I was just responding w/ who could

 

[AKATheRake]

we're not cuddling McQ

we know he's terribly inexperienced, so the timetable for him is different from some player who played college football extensively for a top program

it's called creating a reasonable expectation of someone

We know he's terribly inexperienced? We tried to get him some real game experience but he can't even show up in practice. Everyone is saying the guy is a tackle, what do you think is a taller task tackle or guard? It's been 3 tears, the guys a drip, we have to let him go. We need to set an example on that line behind our starters, we need to let him go. You know football well, but the compassion side is what is holding you back and more so your optimism from being a loyal fan. McRed is not a football player. I've seen kickers with more backbone. You think I don't want him to be the solution too? He just isn't!

 

[DaBoys4Life]

maybe now they do

but you said could in the 1st place, I was just responding w/ who could

So there's about 4 OL on our team that can't step up if a starter goes down yet we kept 11 of them......

 

[Stash]

maybe now they do

but you said could in the 1st place, I was just responding w/ who could

'Now they do' - in McQ's case after two years, and Marten one and a half - and the team can't trust either one to contribute anything or anywhere.

How long does a team wait?

Three years?

When your 'project' is a restricted free agent who can take what he's learned to his next team?

I'm not even looking for a star, I'm just looking for a shred of capability.