Wow, Refs Handed Game To Pats

Beast_from_East

Well-Known Member
Messages
30,140
Reaction score
27,231
Fellas, tonights game is the first game since the Pitt SB that I really thought it might be fixed, for real.

The Pats were totally handed that game by the Refs, I guess the NFL likes all of this "run to perfection" attention.

I tell you guys, we better pray somebody upsets the Pats in the AFC Playoffs (come on Colts), because if the Pats make the SB at 18-0 noway the refs are going to let them lose.

How do they get caught cheating and are the league's "golden boys" now? They must have some pictures of the Commish, only logical explanation.:mad:
 

Oh_Canada

Well-Known Member
Messages
10,083
Reaction score
4,222
The Ravens are some ticked and I don't blame them...the Pats are the ONLY team in the legue to get those calls I assure you.

Ravens: The fix was in for Patriots

December 4, 2007 12:22 AM


Posted by ESPN.com's Mike Sando from Baltimore

Just returned from the Ravens' locker room. Those guys are ticked off. They said the league wants the Patriots to win, to the point that officials make calls favoring New England with the game on the line. They said Tom Brady sells tickets for the league, so the league wants Brady and the Patriots to stay unbeaten. I'll start posting the direct quotes momentarily. Refresh the blog periodically and you'll see them as they post.

Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs on officiating: "Everybody is kind of cheering for them to go undefeated and break all the records. They called them the greatest offense on earth. So who knows? ... They made one more play than us and they got a little help."

Suggs on the timeout attributed to the Ravens, which gave New England another chance on fourth down aver Baltimore appeared to stop Tom Brady short on a sneak: "You only get a few times to really get the NFL's poster boy in that type of situation. I don't know. It looked like all 22 men on the field played as if no timeout was called. But if it was called, it was called. I don't get inot that part of the game. I just do my job."

Suggs on officiating: "It's kind of the feeling of the 2001 tuck rule. It kind of feels like the tuck rule. That is the NFL for you, man. When they got a guy like that that is selling a lot of tickets, you want to keep him selling tickets"

Ravens linebacker Bart Scott on the timeout: "I didn't hear a timeout. That was very convenient."

Scott: "We outplayed them, plain and simple. We punched them in the mouth on both sides of the ball."

Ravens receiver Derrick Mason: "Allow the players to dictate how the game is going to go, especially the last couple of seconds. It's kind of like basketball. There's three seconds on the clock. Let the guys play. The best team is going to win. You don't let outside circumstances dictate how the game is going to go. It's hard to play against the best team in the NFL and beat them. You are out there and working hard. You are playing against them and then also you have the other guys and it seems you are playing against them, also."

More from Mason on officiating: "I'm going to take it back to last game. San DIego. Quinn Sypniewski runs down the field, runs into one of their DBs, we catch the ball and they call offensive pass interference. OK. Great. This game, same things happens. Randy Moss runs right into Samari Rolle. They call defensive pass interference. I don't understand that. One game it's called one way, the next game it's called another way. At the end, you have a phantom call. That's why it's hard to play and win a game when you are playing against more than just the best team in the NFL."

More from Mason on how hard it is to beat the Patriots: "It's kind of like that old Bulls team when they were running the tables. You were playing against Jordan, Pippen and the bunch and it was hard to beat them because everyone was on their side. That's the way it is now. You've got Brady and the bunch. It's hard to beat them when you're playing against them and extra people."

Mason on whether the refs can get caught up in talk of an undefeated season: "I think everybody can get caught up. You should have heard some of the verbal blasts we were taking from the refs. It was just despicable. They don't want us to say anything to them, but they treat us like we're little kids out there, saying anything they want to say. As players, we can't say anything back. We can't report it to anybody because it's our word against theirs. But you have to give it up to New England. They did what they had to do. They scored at the end and that's all you can ask of a team."

Ravens cornerback Chris McAlister on whether the NFL wants the Patriots to win: "They get a lot of calls. I'll say that. We've been watching film on them all week and I mean, they do get a lot of calls. As far as the NFL wanting them to win, you can't totally not think about it in those terms."

Ravens running back Willis McGahee: "I felt like we played our hearts out tonight and got some bogus calls, but it is what it is."

McGahee on which calls bothered him the most: "Shhh. Pass interference, the holding on (Jamaine) Winborne. There was a lot. I can't even remember them all."

Ravens coach Brian Billick spoke with reporters for only about a minute after the game. Asked why the Ravens called timeout before stuffing Brady on fourth down, Billick said, "We didn't feel like we were in the right configuration, kind of knew what they were going to do and felt like we needed a better call, I guess." It wasn't clear what he meant. Asked which person called the timeout, Billick said, "We called the timeout." Asked if the calls just didn't seem to go the Ravens' way late in the game, Billick said, "Yeah, evidently not."

Asked about what he said to Scott about tossing an official's flag into the stands, Billick said, "You've gotta be smarter than that. Can't be a dumb football player."

I'll leave you with a comment overheard from a veteran player: "You might as well crown them the Super Bowl champs if it's going to be like that."
 

irvin88

Active Member
Messages
1,668
Reaction score
0
I honestly think the Colts will beat them going away.

Colts offense is a MUCH better version of what we've seen the past 2 games vs. the Pats.

And the Colts have a defense that is damn good.
 

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
54,310
Reaction score
32,716
You guys just can't accept the fact that the Pats are undefeated.

The refs didn't hand anyone the game. Watson was mugged on that pass interference play. Gaffney caught the ball cleanly; he just switched the ball into a different hand after he went out of bounds.

The Pats won because they're a disciplined team and know how to win. The Ravens lost because they are an undisciplined team.
 

ejthedj

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,290
Reaction score
619
And BSPN is in emergency excuse mode... I guess it doesn't take a conspiracy for them to understand whose cow they get their milk from
 

theogt

Surrealist
Messages
45,846
Reaction score
5,912
Oh_Canada;1810707 said:
Mason on whether the refs can get caught up in talk of an undefeated season: "I think everybody can get caught up. You should have heard some of the verbal blasts we were taking from the refs. It was just despicable. They don't want us to say anything to them, but they treat us like we're little kids out there, saying anything they want to say. As players, we can't say anything back. We can't report it to anybody because it's our word against theirs. But you have to give it up to New England. They did what they had to do. They scored at the end and that's all you can ask of a team."
I'd like to hear what the refs were saying.

Man, it's hard to think anything other than the refs wanted the Patriots to win this game.
 

Oh_Canada

Well-Known Member
Messages
10,083
Reaction score
4,222
tyke1doe;1810710 said:
You guys just can't accept the fact that the Pats are undefeated.

The refs didn't hand anyone the game. Watson was mugged on that pass interference play. Gaffney caught the ball cleanly; he just switched the ball into a different hand after he went out of bounds.

The Pats won because they're a disciplined team and know how to win. The Ravens lost because they are an undisciplined team.

Huh??? Are you telling me....T.O would have gotten the same call on that juggling act????? There is NOOOOOOOO way they call that a catch if it were #81.
 

theogt

Surrealist
Messages
45,846
Reaction score
5,912
tyke1doe;1810710 said:
You guys just can't accept the fact that the Pats are undefeated.

The refs didn't hand anyone the game. Watson was mugged on that pass interference play. Gaffney caught the ball cleanly; he just switched the ball into a different hand after he went out of bounds.

The Pats won because they're a disciplined team and know how to win. The Ravens lost because they are an undisciplined team.
LOL. Did you even watch that play? Obviously not.
 

silverblue

Member
Messages
302
Reaction score
1
I wonder how many of us would be football fans if we knew at least SOME of it was fixed?
 

VietCowboy

Be Realistic. Demand the Impossible.
Messages
2,966
Reaction score
54
Oh_Canada;1810718 said:
Huh??? Are you telling me....T.O would have gotten the same call on that juggling act????? There is NOOOOOOOO way they call that a catch if it were #81.


i second this whole-heartedly. 100%, no holds barred, with my future first born on the line.
 

VietCowboy

Be Realistic. Demand the Impossible.
Messages
2,966
Reaction score
54
silverblue;1810721 said:
I wonder how many of us would be football fans if we knew at least SOME of it was fixed?


why i don't bet.
 

silverblue

Member
Messages
302
Reaction score
1
I think I am done watching football after this year. I tried to swear it off after the last few super(rigged) bowls, but then Dallas got better :)
 

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
54,310
Reaction score
32,716
Oh_Canada;1810718 said:
Huh??? Are you telling me....T.O would have gotten the same call on that juggling act????? There is NOOOOOOOO way they call that a catch if it were #81.

What does T.O. have to do with that catch?

Yes, he did catch the ball. I watched it on Tivo and watch the slow-mo of the catch. He catches the ball by the tip of his fingers and then switches it after he goes out of bounds.

But I can understand why you're upset. You're comparing it to a non-call on T.O. :rolleyes:
 

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
54,310
Reaction score
32,716
theogt;1810720 said:
LOL. Did you even watch that play? Obviously not.

LOL! Yes, I did.

I'm sorry you wanted the Pats to lose so badly that it colors your perspective. But they won. Deal with it.
 

theogt

Surrealist
Messages
45,846
Reaction score
5,912
tyke1doe;1810727 said:
LOL! Yes, I did.

I'm sorry you wanted the Pats to lose so badly that it colors your perspective. But they won. Deal with it.
The ball moved. No catch.
 

VietCowboy

Be Realistic. Demand the Impossible.
Messages
2,966
Reaction score
54
tyke1doe;1810726 said:
What does T.O. have to do with that catch?

Yes, he did catch the ball. I watched it on Tivo and watch the slow-mo of the catch. He catches the ball by the tip of his fingers and then switches it after he goes out of bounds.

But I can understand why you're upset. You're comparing it to a non-call on T.O. :rolleyes:


it's not a non-call if TO's recent history shows that he gets calls against him...spiking the ball when he didn't, overturn an in bound call when he was pushed out, etc.
 

ejthedj

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,290
Reaction score
619
Apologists make me sick

Shut up, nobody said the Pats aren't good

But why are the refs making calls that decide the game, three times on 4th down, to ensure a Pats victory
 

VietCowboy

Be Realistic. Demand the Impossible.
Messages
2,966
Reaction score
54
tyke1doe;1810727 said:
LOL! Yes, I did.

I'm sorry you wanted the Pats to lose so badly that it colors your perspective. But they won. Deal with it.



if what you say is true...he switched hands because he didn't have control of the ball. if he did have control initially, he would not have switched hands. why risk it?
 

SultanOfSix

Star Power
Messages
12,956
Reaction score
8,174
LOL. It's about time the players start talking about the trash that is the Cheats and the obviously biased officiating that they get their way.
 
Top