Wow, Refs Handed Game To Pats

[tyke1doe]

I'm sorry. You must not know what the word "biased" means.

Yes, I do. Cowboys fans complaining about the refs aiding the Patriots because the Pats beat Dallas.

 

[jchocolate82]

You guys just can't accept the fact that the Pats are undefeated.

The refs didn't hand anyone the game. Watson was mugged on that pass interference play. Gaffney caught the ball cleanly; he just switched the ball into a different hand after he went out of bounds.

The Pats won because they're a disciplined team and know how to win. The Ravens lost because they are an undisciplined team.

Get outta her man. I'm peeved that the Pats won this game and it is what it is but you gotta be joking me if you think the Pats have not had some questionable calls go there way this whole season

 

[SultanOfSix]

Yes, I do. Cowboys fans complaining about the refs aiding the Patriots because the Pats beat Dallas.

Most are complaining because the officiating is biased for the Pats. Since you don't know what that means, I can see why you think the above.

 

[tyke1doe]

Yeah, I don't think the refs are in the Patriots pocket, but you're overcompensating a little here. It's pretty obvious that wasn't a catch. The holding penalty was fine. But that was not a catch.

Yes, it was. And the refs agreed. And notice none of the ESPN commentators raised a ruckus about it like commentators did about the Winslow non-TD call.

But I guess ESPN is biased too.

 

[tyke1doe]

Most are complaining because the officiating is biased for the Pats. Since you don't know what that means, I can see why you think the above.

Most Cowboys fans don't like the Pats and want to see their undefeated season come to an end. So I guess I'm suppose to just consider Cowboys fans non-biased in their perception?

 

[silverblue]

Pats alternate jerseys for this year:

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[theogt]

Yes, it was. And the refs agreed. And notice none of the ESPN commentators raised a ruckus about it like commentators did about the Winslow non-TD call.

But I guess ESPN is biased too.

You keep saying this as if it has any bearing on the discussion.

Your argument has boiled down to "ESPN didn't say it wasn't a catch, so it's gotta be a catch."

Good luck with that line of reasoning.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Yes, I do. Cowboys fans complaining about the refs aiding the Patriots because the Pats beat Dallas.

Dude, with all due respect, only the biggest Pats homer would call that game fairly officiated tonight.

It is not just Dallas fans, I have been to several other boards tonight and fans of other teams think the Ravens got screwed also.

I guess you are just in the minority on this one.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I wonder what would happen if Ware went in low on Brady's knees?

 

[theogt]

I wonder what would happen if Ware went in low on Brady's knees?

A loud cracking noise.

 

[VietCowboy]

I wonder what would happen if Ware went in low on Brady's knees?

ejected...lol and then suspended indefinitely

 

[Beast_from_East]

Most Cowboys fans don't like the Pats and want to see their undefeated season come to an end. So I guess I'm suppose to just consider Cowboys fans non-biased in their perception?

Go check out some other boards, you will see it is not just Cowboy fans that think the Pats are getting a free ticket to Arizona by the league.

Sorry to burst your theory.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Most Cowboys fans don't like the Pats and want to see their undefeated season come to an end. So I guess I'm suppose to just consider Cowboys fans non-biased in their perception?

And we're supposed to consider you non-biased because you side with the refs? That's , considering the inconsistency that is NFL officiating, except when it comes to the Pats - then we know the refs side with them.

 

[VietCowboy]

Go check out some other boards, you will see it is not just Cowboy fans that think the Pats are getting a free ticket to Arizona by the league.

Sorry to burst your theory.

well, he/she hasn't responded to my question about the 4 vs 13 penalties, nor commented on the fact that the entire night, boller only got tapped and not slugged.

 

[tyke1doe]

Get outta her man. I'm peeved that the Pats won this game and it is what it is but you gotta be joking me if you think the Pats have not had some questionable calls go there way this whole season

You meant get outta here man.

Second, you guys must have a silo with straw in it or something. We're talking about THIS game so why would you introduce the argument that the Pats have benefited from some questionable calls. Of course, they have, as many teams have, including the Cowboys with the pass interference on Miles Austin.

Wait, that was OBVIOUSLY a pass interference call, even though the ref closest to the play didn't drop a flag and it took almost a minute for another ref to call the penalty?

Pulease. Questionable calls abound in the NFL, not just for the Pats but for many teams. I'm looking at the Cleveland-Arizona game and many questionable calls were made in that game.

Be that as it may, Gaffney caught the ball for a TD. He snagged it and then switched the ball after he went out of bounds. And the penalty against the Ravens for holding Watson was a good call. And even if it wasn't, it wasn't so egregious that it would have been an extremely bad call.

And I find it interesting in the article posted in this thread, the Ravens never really say which calls were bad, only that the refs want to perserve the Pats undefeated record. But they offer no proof. I guess that's what passes for proof these days - wild speculation and perspectives tainted with bias, the bias that comes when people are so upset about the Patriots possibly going 16-0 that they make excuses why teams can't beat them.

 

[Deep_South]

The problem is, they re-ran the play over and over again and it didn't ever look like a catch. But, the way the game was going, we just KNEW it was going to be ruled a catch. It doesn't really matter what the reality is, the appearance was that the Pats were going to win, no matter what.

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but that is just the way it looked. In other words, if I was at the game, I would have known it was safe to head for the parking lot.

 

[theogt]

You meant get outta here man.

Second, you guys must have a silo with straw in it or something. We're talking about THIS game so why would you introduce the argument that the Pats have benefited from some questionable calls. Of course, they have, as many teams have, including the Cowboys with the pass interference on Miles Austin.

How was the Miles call questionable?

 

[tyke1doe]

And we're supposed to consider you non-biased because you side with the refs? That's , considering the inconsistency that is NFL officiating, except when it comes to the Pats - then we know the refs side with them.

I guess a few well-placed amount to proof and evidence around these parts.

Here's my criterion for being non-biased: I want the Patriots to lose.
Here's another criterion: I thought the Patriots beat us fair and square. The Cowboys couldn't stop the Pats if they wanted to, which they couldn't.
Here's another: I don't have any relatives who are NFL refs.


So in light of those two points, what reason would I have to say the refs didn't cheat?

Now what objective criteria can you offer to support the fact that you're non-biased?

I'll be waiting.

 

[NeonNinja]

Tyke you're an idiot just like those refs tonight, if you can't see how those calls favored the Pats then you have serious issues or are a Pats fan on a Cowboy's forum. BTW, it's just not us talking about their favortism on ref calls, the Ravens have all the right in the world to be pissed at tonight's game.

 

[tyke1doe]

How was the Miles call questionable?

Uh, because the ref closest to the play doesn't throw the flag. A ref farther from the play throws the flag, and that several seconds after the play was over.

Uh, because Bigby incidentially touches Austin and tangles feet with the receiver, which isn't suppose to be a pass interference.

I mean, I'll take the penalty, but I thought it was a questionable call, especially since the flag didn't come out immediately.