WR corp needs a complete overhaul

[atlantacowboy]

I've saying this sinse the off season.
They have Noah Brown at 6'2". He showed some fight last night, but they don't play him enough.

Noah is 6'1 AND 3/4. He ran 4.56 40 coming into the league. He is a good guy to have in the 4 or 5 spot at WR and on special teams.

What we have is a bunch of tweener wrs who aren't really big or really fast. Amari was fast and this offense needed his speed b/c opposing defenses had to respect it and that opened things up for these other guys. Now the "other guys" are all we have and they still need that one guy who defenses respect.

 

[Dalmations202]

Let's see, if it were my team.
#1 Wr --- Possession guy. Has to run great routes, understands how to use body to block out, has to catch everything. Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin, Larry Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant, T Owens, type player.
#2 and #3 -- Speed and RAC guys. Either a speed guy to take the top off, or guy who excels against single coverage and has great run after catch ability.
#4 My developmental young guy, or the guy who can basically take the place of the hurt guy above him.
#5 He is my specialist. He has to be awesome at one thing, something I can utilize to make DC's lose sleep over.
#6 KR/PR -- quickness and speed.....don't care the size, but needs elusiveness.

Dallas had this last year with Coop at 1, CD at 2 and Gallup at 3..............too bad mgmt destroyed it. Now Gallup cant get separation, and CD doesn't have the body to be a possession receiver that uses his body and catches everything. He is still an awesome RAC guy though. Noah Brown has played very well this year, give him kudos, but no DC worries about him or game plans for him.
You don't have a specialist.
But Turpin is excellent as the #6 WR.

I think the poster who said that adding Johnston the TCU WR would be excellent for this team, and put players back in the roles they flourish in, instead of out of position.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

There is a reason Rush was/is back up, and if we are being honest, with the exception of no interceptions, his play over the last 4-5 weeks was nothing special. Hell, four TDs in four games? In fact, you can argue his performance start declining with each game as teams got more reel. Just it all finally can to a head last night.
What's interesting is the time wasted talking/defending a potential so-called QB controversy/switch that never was a question in players' or/and coaches' minds. Just some fantasy created by the media for entertainment and Dak critics coz they want him replaced at any cost. The media I can halfway understand but fans/posters willing to turn my team/season over to a guy with 5, yes starts 5 starts is a hard pill. Hell, even Cooper tried to convince fans/media we were winning on the back of the defense, not him, but Dak's critics didn't wanna hear it. Their narrative was not in the best interest of winning but replacing Dak immediately, 2023 $50M cap and $89M dead cap be damn.

As for Cooper, great job, you exceeded all expectations imaginable, and a chance to earn some well-deserved money over the next few years.

 

[goshann]

Yeah, Lamb doesn’t look like a top 15 NFL WR.

Gallup makes big plays but doesn’t get open routinely. Maybe he’d be fine as a #2 if we had an elite #1.

Kind of a disappointing position group other than Noah Brown who has outplayed his expectations.

I think the WR overall are average from an nfl perspective. But we don’t have a rcvr that gets great separation.

Gallup never has been able to, but does excel at sideline and deep balls, especially on contested situations.

CD gets a little more open but isn’t a great separation guy either.

 

[jrumann59]

I think the negativity on Gallup is harsh. He did just come back from one of the most notorious injuries in the NFL (which many players take an additional year of play to get back to their old selves), and last night he played against a guy who’s likely first team all pro and the only CB in the DMVP voting. Slay was locked to Gallup all night as he was your deep threat. Gallup had the same game Justin Jefferson had against Slay, and Terry Mclaurin, and Christian Kirk, and DJ Chark…..

Yes if this is the only time but he like CeeDee and Cooper last year have tendency to disappear sometimes its one of them sometimes it has been all of them at once.

 

[TheCoolFan]

I think the offense will continue to struggle once Dak returns unless the OL/run game can carry them. The receivers are not as bad as 2018 (pre-Amari trade) but they are comparable to 2016/2017 when they had a declining Dez, old Witten, and Terrance Williams. But they were Top-10 in rushing to help make up for it.

 

[Tenkamenin]

I was disapointed when we got rid of Amari. Lamb would've been more productive as the #2. Add guys like Gallup and Brown, and this receiving corp is unstoppable.

 

[DuncanIso]

They need some work.

 

[DuncanIso]

I was disapointed when we got rid of Amari. Lamb would've been more productive as the #2. Add guys like Gallup and Brown, and this receiving corp is unstoppable.

to be fair, Coop hasn’t been a WR1 for a while for us.

And he was due 60 million.

that’s why he is a brownie.

 

[Ranched]

Truth…..they shine against the weakest teams but go bye bye against defenses that press

Didn't realize the Bengals, Rams & Giants were the weakest.

 

[Zman5]

The WRs were open yesterday but the ball got there too late and allowed the CBs to make a play of the ball. KM also did a terrible job not exploiting the middle like Collinsworth was suggesting all game. EaGirls were playing with 5 down linemen and 1LB when we went to heavy run look. KM should have had one of the TEs slip out and take advantage of that formation for a quick pass.

 

[Mannix]

So what if Rush got the ball to Lamb after he beat his guy for a somewhat easy 60 yard TD, giving him a stat line of 6-128 and a TD with a backup QB and got us within a FG of the tie? Then we may have just tried to get closer on the last drive where Maher missed a 59 yarder. What would your angle have been then?

I'd still stand by everything I said....I've been saying this for months now.

 

[WillieBeamen]

There is nothing wrong with this WR corp

 

[WillieBeamen]

I was disapointed when we got rid of Amari. Lamb would've been more productive as the #2. Add guys like Gallup and Brown, and this receiving corp is unstoppable.

Ceedee has more catches and yards this year than Amari. Last year he did too

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Let's see, if it were my team.
#1 Wr --- Possession guy. Has to run great routes, understands how to use body to block out, has to catch everything. Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin, Larry Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant, T Owens, type player.
#2 and #3 -- Speed and RAC guys. Either a speed guy to take the top off, or guy who excels against single coverage and has great run after catch ability.
#4 My developmental young guy, or the guy who can basically take the place of the hurt guy above him.
#5 He is my specialist. He has to be awesome at one thing, something I can utilize to make DC's lose sleep over.
#6 KR/PR -- quickness and speed.....don't care the size, but needs elusiveness.

Dallas had this last year with Coop at 1, CD at 2 and Gallup at 3..............too bad mgmt destroyed it. Now Gallup cant get separation, and CD doesn't have the body to be a possession receiver that uses his body and catches everything. He is still an awesome RAC guy though. Noah Brown has played very well this year, give him kudos, but no DC worries about him or game plans for him.
You don't have a specialist.
But Turpin is excellent as the #6 WR.

I think the poster who said that adding Johnston the TCU WR would be excellent for this team, and put players back in the roles they flourish in, instead of out of position.

What on earth has Amari done this year or last year to say we missed it?

 

[817Gill]

Do not get this at all. Was going to make a thread but didn’t see anyone complaining about WR’s until now, so I’ll say my piece here.

Multiple times last night on the telecast Collinsworth pointed out times where receivers were running wide open down the field. Gallup was super open on a crosser around midfield that goes for 30-40 if he gets the ball. Ceedee has a 60 yard touchdown if Rush gets rid of it when Bradberry is beat and doesn’t throw a lollipop.

If we had adequate QB play for 4 quarters last night, our WR’s would’ve looked great. Gallup had a touchdown in the corner had Rush put more on the throw. We very well could have seen both go for 80-100+ and a touchdown each.

The tape tells you our WR’s are open enough to make plays. Ceedee is still the overwhelming majority of this passing attack and he is the only one consistently producing since week 1. Can’t expect him to be a 100 yard receiver with Rush throwing for sub-250. His target share and catches/yards scaled with a real QB will result in bigger statistical games.

Can’t just look at the box score and say our WR’s ain’t playing well. They are a solid group that will only improve with Dak. Throw in our TE’s and backs and we have plenty of guys that can make plays and move the ball.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Do not get this at all. Was going to make a thread but didn’t see anyone complaining about WR’s until now, so I’ll say my piece here.

Multiple times last night on the telecast Collinsworth pointed out times where receivers were running wide open down the field. Gallup was super open on a crosser around midfield that goes for 30-40 if he gets the ball. Ceedee has a 60 yard touchdown if Rush gets rid of it when Bradberry is beat and doesn’t throw a lollipop.

If we had adequate QB play for 4 quarters last night, our WR’s would’ve looked great. Gallup had a touchdown in the corner had Rush put more on the throw. We very well could have seen both go for 80-100+ and a touchdown each.

The tape tells you our WR’s are open enough to make plays. Ceedee is still the overwhelming majority of this passing attack and he is the only one consistently producing since week 1. Can’t expect him to be a 100 yard receiver with Rush throwing for sub-250. His target share and catches/yards scaled with a real QB will result in bigger statistical games.

Can’t just look at the box score and say our WR’s ain’t playing well. They are a solid group that will only improve with Dak. Throw in our TE’s and backs and we have plenty of guys that can make plays and move the ball.

Just a weird time to make this thread. The receivers as a whole played their best game of the season outside of maybe the Bengals game. No drops, they were open for big plays, and they blocked on the perimeter (sans Ceedees boneheaded penalty).

The unit knows the limitations of Cooper and thats why they are chomping at the bit to get Dak back.

 

[817Gill]

Just a weird time to make this thread. The receivers as a whole played their best game of the season outside of maybe the Bengals game. No drops, they were open for big plays, and they blocked on the perimeter (sans Ceedees boneheaded penalty).

The unit knows the limitations of Cooper and thats why they are chomping at the bit to get Dak back.

Exactly. Was happy that people weren’t bashing them throughout the postgame threads but I knew someone would try to bury them.

The plays are out there to be made. If Dak can capitalize, and he’s better equipped arm-wise than Rush is, then we won’t be complaining about them one bit.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What a mess. We have a 2...at best....most often 2.5 mental midget with a body built by Snoop posing as a 1...we have a 3 that shouldn't have been resigned, who only catches sideline routes posing as a 2....we have a special teams WR that supposedly "blocks well" and ocasionally finds a squirrel nut because he has caught thousands of balls with the backup QB posing as a 3. This corp will do nothing....especially given who is about to return at QB next week. If Booger and Chuckles resign Snoop, they both formally need to be committed....other teams swap out and retool WR corps on the fly. The Eagles had the worst WR corp the last couple of years....look now. Watch and see how long we stay saddled with this bottom 5 mess.

I think we should trade for Cooper. he may cost a 2nd this time around.

 

[Rayman70]

the receivers I think are fine. I luv the TE room as well. The issue is the mental self inflicted stuff and we weren't ready for the Read option stuff.