WR In the First Round Is a Horrible Idea

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Bob Sacamano;1435672 said:
and what is this?

dude im not going to get in the specifics of our private conversations. if you dont believe me then fine ive said my piece and btw im forwarding rack those pms.
 

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I'm going to put a voodoo curse on this thread that hopefully closes it, talk about exhausting a subject and then turning it into tangent fest 2007, my word.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1435673 said:
dude im not going to get in the specifics of our private conversations. if you dont believe me then fine ive said my piece and btw im forwarding rack those pms.

I'm sorry that your story about the girlfriend you don't have, like it had some sort of bearing in your conversation w/ 5stars, doesn't add up

I usually find it that the 1st person to bring up their 'girlfriend' in an online argument is a damn liar, it certainly looks it here
 

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bump I love this thread, its got everything back and forth over receivers, petty comments about someone having a date, lies about the bar exam, PMs threatened tp be exposed.


come on guys dont quit now :lmao:
 

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BigDFan5;1436367 said:
bump I love this thread, its got everything back and forth over receivers, petty comments about someone having a date, lies about the bar exam, PMs threatened tp be exposed.


come on guys dont quit now :lmao:
IMO, one of the all time great threads here.

:D

I enjoyed my debate in it.
 

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BigDFan5;1436367 said:
bump I love this thread, its got everything back and forth over receivers, petty comments about someone having a date, lies about the bar exam, PMs threatened tp be exposed.


come on guys dont quit now :lmao:

the mods stink!
 

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BigDFan5;1436367 said:
bump I love this thread, its got everything back and forth over receivers, petty comments about someone having a date, lies about the bar exam, PMs threatened tp be exposed.


come on guys dont quit now :lmao:


I think this thread stopped because FuzzBrain broke out his pencil and paper, did some fuzzy math, and came to the conclusion that he was wrong and decided to bail while he could!

Or maybe he's still trying to figure out where he went wrong?


:laugh2:
 

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5Stars;1436606 said:
I think this thread stopped because FuzzBrain broke out his pencil and paper, did some fuzzy math, and came to the conclusion that he was wrong and decided to bail while he could!

Or maybe he's still trying to figure out where he went wrong?


:laugh2:

No I let it drop because I made the mistake of allowing you baiting me into bringing my personal life into the discussion.

There was only one person that brought legitamate concerns about anything and that was Alex with some of my evals on DEs from the eighties. Funny thing is that after the adjustments the figures remained pretty much the same.

The bust rate of first round WRs is higher than DE and especially OT. Youre incapable of having an intelligent discussion with so I expect your response to be as mindless as your typical blather but I figured that I would point out that after 45 odd pages the aforementioned fact is the same.

Now you may believe that WR is a big need or that a WR is better graded but that does not mitigate that WRs bust more than just about any position not a QB.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1436652 said:
No I let it drop because I made the mistake of allowing you baiting me into bringing my personal life into the discussion.

There was only one person that brought legitamate concerns about anything and that was Alex with some of my evals on DEs from the eighties. Funny thing is that after the adjustments the figures remained pretty much the same.

The bust rate of first round WRs is higher than DE and especially OT. Youre incapable of having an intelligent discussion with so I expect your response to be as mindless as your typical blather but I figured that I would point out that after 45 odd pages the aforementioned fact is the same.

Now you may believe that WR is a big need or that a WR is better graded but that does not mitigate that WRs bust more than just about any position not a QB.
:omg:

Where's the love man?
 

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Isn't Parcells a supporter of no WR in the first? Or was it he didn't like Glenn?
 

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Hostile;1436766 said:
:omg:

Where's the love man?

Fair enough but i never really argued with what you said. you were on the money in the decision calculus part I just dont think we need a WR as much as you do.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1436802 said:
Fair enough but i never really argued with what you said. you were on the money in the decision calculus part I just dont think we need a WR as much as you do.
I wasn't arguing just to argue.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1436652 said:
No I let it drop because I made the mistake of allowing you baiting me into bringing my personal life into the discussion.

made-up personal life
 

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Draft Ginn.

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Bob Sacamano;1436806 said:
made-up personal life

like i told you before summer i really could care less if you dont believe me. at least i dont still live with my mother.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1436652 said:
No I let it drop because I made the mistake of allowing you baiting me into bringing my personal life into the discussion.

There was only one person that brought legitamate concerns about anything and that was Alex with some of my evals on DEs from the eighties. Funny thing is that after the adjustments the figures remained pretty much the same.
I like how you only consider arguments legitimate if you agree with them. Very few (if any) posters agreed with you in this thread. In fact, virtually no one in the NFL agrees with you. Yet, somehow you're the final arbiter of legitimacy. How is the air up there in those clouds? Do you get the occasional gentle breeze to stroke your massive ego?

The bust rate of first round WRs is higher than DE and especially OT. Youre incapable of having an intelligent discussion with so I expect your response to be as mindless as your typical blather but I figured that I would point out that after 45 odd pages the aforementioned fact is the same.

Now you may believe that WR is a big need or that a WR is better graded but that does not mitigate that WRs bust more than just about any position not a QB.
We can agree that first round WRs bust at a higher rate than other positions. I'm not sure anyone, even myself, ever even contested that point. It may very well be true, and the relatively little work put into determining that fact throughout this thread does seem to indicate it is true. However, it tells us very little, if anything, about whether drafting a WR in the 1st round is a terrible idea or not.
 

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theogt;1436827 said:
I like how you only consider arguments legitimate if you agree with them. Very few (if any) posters agreed with you in this thread. In fact, virtually no one in the NFL agrees with you. Yet, somehow you're the final arbiter of legitimacy. How is the air up there in those clouds? Do you get the occasional gentle breeze to stroke your massive ego?

We can agree that first round WRs bust at a higher rate than other positions. I'm not sure anyone, even myself, ever even contested that point. It may very well be true, and the relatively little work put into determining that fact throughout this thread does seem to indicate it is true. However, it tells us very little, if anything, about whether drafting a WR in the 1st round is a terrible idea or not.

That's all I was saying too.
 

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theogt;1436827 said:
I like how you only consider arguments legitimate if you agree with them. Very few (if any) posters agreed with you in this thread. In fact, virtually no one in the NFL agrees with you. Yet, somehow you're the final arbiter of legitimacy. How is the air up there in those clouds? Do you get the occasional gentle breeze to stroke your massive ego?

We can agree that first round WRs bust at a higher rate than other positions. I'm not sure anyone, even myself, ever even contested that point. It may very well be true, and the relatively little work put into determining that fact throughout this thread does seem to indicate it is true. However, it tells us very little, if anything, about whether drafting a WR in the 1st round is a terrible idea or not.

Ive been over your arguments and they were garbage. You still never responded to my take on your 'its expected returns, i mean the mathetmatical version oh wait no i actually meant on what they actually contributed oh wait i really dont have any idea what im talking about but ill just say that you dont' argument.

The 'NFL teams draft WR i the first therefore it must be a good idea' argument is inherently fallacious.
 

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Fuzzy, answer this one simple question: If drafting a WR in the first round is "horrible" and that conclusion is so easily reached, why do NFL teams continue to draft WRs?

Are they all managed by idiots?
 
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