Xavier Woods scored a 39 on the Wonderlic

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Not at all, in fact he might be the better option, who knows? What I do know is that Heath has improved yearly as a Cowboy and Woods looks promising. Does every Cowboy have a promising future here? Of course not, but the team has done a remarkable job of purging it's roster of players who aren't on the come. Does that mean they all will arrive? Nope. What I find curious is that without a whole lot to go on people here regularly paint themselves into a corner on one player vs another without a real need to do so.

Heath has been here 3 years. Plenty to go on. When you cant even beat out scrubs like Wilcox your future isnt very bright. When guys are great players they typically shine early. Be it Dak, Zeke, Dez, Olineman, ect....ect... They dont rot on the bench behind scrubs.

Im not holding my breath on Heath. Woods looks like a true ball hawk with instincts, smarts, and a nose for the ball. Let Heath be the special teams ace and backup safety.
 

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You must not have seen many safeties play if Wilcox is the worst you have ever seen

Ill fully admit that Wilcox had a great year last year. Couldnt believe my eyes. But before that he was terrible. AS bad as it gets before that.
 

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I really like Xavier Woods, but the anti Heath crowd is really setting themselves up for disappointment, because there is no chance, barring injury that Heath isn't the week one starter. He may not even be the starter all year, but Heath is starting day 1

Starting day one over a rookie? Big deal. That doesnt mean that Heath is going to play great. Its simply means he is the safer option at the time.
 

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Ill fully admit that Wilcox had a great year last year. Couldnt believe my eyes. But before that he was terrible. AS bad as it gets before that.
Again if you think Wilcox was the worst safety you have ever seen then you haven't seen many safeties play. Change it all you want but it will remain a fact that Wilcox while wasn't probowl he also wasn't the worst. Matter of fact there were other safeties on the team worst then him
 

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Heath has been here 3 years. Plenty to go on. When you cant even beat out scrubs like Wilcox your future isnt very bright. When guys are great players they typically shine early. Be it Dak, Zeke, Dez, Olineman, ect....ect... They dont rot on the bench behind scrubs.

Im not holding my breath on Heath. Woods looks like a true ball hawk with instincts, smarts, and a nose for the ball. Let Heath be the special teams ace and backup safety.

I don't understand why people hate good competition, it's in the absolute best interest of the team. Heath has elevated himself to a point where someone else is going to have to come fight him for the job. May the best man win, whoever that is. No one is predicting stardom for Heath btw, but he's earned the right to compete for the starting job.

Although I'd be more than happy for Heath's final metamorphosis ending in him becoming a good player, it's disingenuous to say all great players shine early. Have you forgotten about Tony Romo already? Or maybe James Harrison, Jeff Saturday, or Wes Welker? The truth is stars evolve all the time in the NFL.
 

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Heath has been here 3 years. Plenty to go on. When you cant even beat out scrubs like Wilcox your future isnt very bright. When guys are great players they typically shine early. Be it Dak, Zeke, Dez, Olineman, ect....ect... They dont rot on the bench behind scrubs.

Im not holding my breath on Heath. Woods looks like a true ball hawk with instincts, smarts, and a nose for the ball. Let Heath be the special teams ace and backup safety.

Why would Woods rot on the bench? You think this team has any interest in playing the worst player at a position after losing a long time starter?
 

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Again if you think Wilcox was the worst safety you have ever seen then you haven't seen many safeties play. Change it all you want but it will remain a fact that Wilcox while wasn't probowl he also wasn't the worst. Matter of fact there were other safeties on the team worst then him

There were other safeties worse then him. Heath. Thats why he was starting over him.
 

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I don't understand why people hate good competition, it's in the absolute best interest of the team. Heath has elevated himself to a point where someone else is going to have to come fight him for the job. May the best man win, whoever that is. No one is predicting stardom for Heath btw, but he's earned the right to compete for the starting job.

Although I'd be more than happy for Heath's final metamorphosis ending in him becoming a good player, it's disingenuous to say all great players shine early. Have you forgotten about Tony Romo already? Or maybe James Harrison, Jeff Saturday, or Wes Welker? The truth is stars evolve all the time in the NFL.

Nothing to do with competition. Said nothing about competition. And Heath hasnt elevated himself anywhere. The only thing that happened was that all the guys in front of him left.
 

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Why would Woods rot on the bench? You think this team has any interest in playing the worst player at a position after losing a long time starter?

I hope Woods doenst rot on the bench. Unless the kid isnt ready or not good enough.
 

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Just going by pedigree, I won't be surprised if Awusie ends up as a starting safety.

IMO, we will be a little more solid at corner with Scandrick, Brown, Carroll and Lewis than at safety, where Heath and Blanton are our other choices to start. We'll see how it shakes out, but Carroll/Scandrick and Brown at corner and Awusie and Jones at safety may be our starting lineup.

Shortly after we drafted Awuzie, it occurred to me that we may do with him the same thing they did with Byron and play him all over the place in his first season. To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of making a rookie learn several positions in their first year, but I can certainly see the advantages of having that experience under his belt going into his second year.
 

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Again if you think Wilcox was the worst safety you have ever seen then you haven't seen many safeties play. Change it all you want but it will remain a fact that Wilcox while wasn't probowl he also wasn't the worst. Matter of fact there were other safeties on the team worst then him

Roy Williams after year two or so was easily worse than Wilcox.
 

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Oh now heath is the worst safety you ever seen. I'm not sure you know what you are talking about

Let me try this another way as you seem too focused on one statement and are missing the point completely. Answer this question for me:

ON a scale of 1-10, 10 being all pro and 5 being average. What would you rate Wilcox overall as a safety?
 

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Let me try this another way as you seem too focused on one statement and are missing the point completely. Answer this question for me:

ON a scale of 1-10, 10 being all pro and 5 being average. What would you rate Wilcox overall as a safety?
That's not what you said though. Besides Wilcox wasn't as bad as some make him out to be. I get it though you and ones like you don't like him, not because he is terrible or not but just don't like him. Seen the same thing with T. Williams
 

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That's not what you said though. Besides Wilcox wasn't as bad as some make him out to be. I get it though you and ones like you don't like him, not because he is terrible or not but just don't like him. Seen the same thing with T. Williams

LOL.............No reason? I have plenty of reasons. You just dont agree. Its my opinion. You are entitled to yours. Wilcox in my book is a sub standard safety. And Heath couldnt beat him out. Its that simple for me. Not to mention when he did get on the field, he did little to nothing. Save for his last game, which I think people are putting way too much stock in. One great game in 3 seasons doesnt do it for me. And slow improvement doesnt do it either. I want a ball hawking hit machine out there at safety and its quite clear that that isnt Heath.

And yah, Williams the WR? Dont like him either. Sub standard in my opinion. Had a big time chance to shine when Dez was out and he couldnt do it. Rarely can even beat single coverage. I would have been more than happy to see him walk.
 

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LOL.............No reason? I have plenty of reasons. You just dont agree. Its my opinion. You are entitled to yours. Wilcox in my book is a sub standard safety. And Heath couldnt beat him out. Its that simple for me. Not to mention when he did get on the field, he did little to nothing. Save for his last game, which I think people are putting way too much stock in. One great game in 3 seasons doesnt do it for me. And slow improvement doesnt do it either. I want a ball hawking hit machine out there at safety and its quite clear that that isnt Heath.

And yah, Williams the WR? Dont like him either. Sub standard in my opinion. Had a big time chance to shine when Dez was out and he couldnt do it. Rarely can even beat single coverage. I would have been more than happy to see him walk.
You are entitled to your opinion no doubt but to say you have never seen a safety play worst then Wilcox then say heath was worst.......well facts say you haven't watched many safeties play.

Figured you had that opinion about Williams
 
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