Xavier Woods showed up frequently

[DogFace]

Of course, how can I forget? Its all you Heath fans can talk about. Did you watch the last 4 years before that?

I was on this board and posted the quote "Heath is not good at football".
It seemed funny and received a lot of likes.

I then had to be a big boy poster and admit I was wrong. He's produced when given the opportunity.


Woodson through four years 7 ints.

Romo through 4 years 19 td's.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I was on this board and posted the quote "Heath is not good at football".
It seemed funny and received a lot of likes.

I then had to be a big boy poster and admit I was wrong. He's produced when given the opportunity.


Woodson through four years 7 ints.

Romo through 4 years 19 td's.

1 pick and a sack make you wrong? Lol

I'll never understand low standards

 

[DogFace]

1 pick and a sack make you wrong? Lol

I'll never understand low standards

What does that mean?

A pick and a sack in a playoff game is low production?

I'll bet it's pretty rare. He should've had 2 picks and made a great play on the ball.

I guess we'll find out, but you're just incorrect when you say he hasn't produced when given the opportunity.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Wade Phillips thought Lee wasn't suited for the nickel package.
He trotted Brookings out there over Lee.

Carpenter was soon traded, but Lee still isn’t the Cowboys’ nickel linebacker. And he won’t be any time soon, according to Wade Phillips.
“I don’t think he’s suited for that role,” Phillips said.
That isn’t a sign that the coaches have given up on Lee contributing to the defense as a rookie.
The coaches are concerned that Keith Brooking, who turns 35 this month, will wear down if he plays every snap. Phillips indicated Wednesday that Lee could begin spelling Brooking in the base defense, as long as Lee isn’t nagged by a sore hamstring.
http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas/cow...oach-confident-in-sean-lee-just-not-in-nickel

IIRC Wade favored Jason Williams over Lee as well.

Lee was a huge factor in that upset win over the Colts post Wade firing. He had 2 INTs, one returned for a TD. Imagine that, the guy who Wade thought couldn't play in the nickel ends up intercepting the great Manning twice as a rookie.
His pick six came from the nickel formation. Colts were 3 wide on that play. On Lee's second INT, we were once again in the nickel formation.

Point is, sometimes coaches go with "vets" or pet cats over other players at certain positions. It was obvious once Lee was healthy that he was a stud player that could play in the nickel lol.

Church was not going to be sitting on the bench last year. He was the captain of the defense. He had some flaws, but overall was a decent safety IMO. Wilcox was a third round pick, and someone who the Cowboys thought could turn into something with enough experience-who was also raw. Heath made the team purely due to special teams as a raw undrafted D-II player. His play in the preseason his rookie year got the coaches attention.
Heath may suck getting full time/increased playing time. He may also be competent enough for the time being before someone better beats him out. The coaching staff has watched him over the years, and I hope, made the right move going against with relative inexperience at SS due to believing Heath had matured enough as a football player to survive a heavier work load on defense.

Hell, even local media called Lee a failure, his rookie year, without even giving the guy a chance to show his stuff on the football field.
http://www.nbcdfw.com/blogs/blue-star/Well-Sean-Lees-Basically-a-Failure-104089079.html

Point is, rushing to judgement either way on someone like Heath is silly. Saying he sucks because he was behind Church and Wilcox on the depth chart isn't concrete proof that he is a crappy player.

I tuned Roy out awhile ago. Thanks for the perspective though even though it should be common sense that the best player doesn't always play.

 

[CowboyRoy]

What does that mean?

A pick and a sack in a playoff game is low production?

I'll bet it's pretty rare. He should've had 2 picks and made a great play on the ball.

I guess we'll find out, but you're just incorrect when you say he hasn't produced when given the opportunity.

No that is great production. But its only one game. And when the guy has been here 4 years that is 64 some odd games. So NO his production has been poor in his career as a whole. That is why he was riding the pine and playing special teams as much as he was. You didnt notice him the other 64 games because he wasnt doing much. And he WAS playing. Do yourself a favor and look at his career statistics. And AGAIN............if this guy was producing when he got the opportunity, then wouldnt have gotten much more opportunity? A starting job? Beat out Wilcox?

 

[CowboyRoy]

I tuned Roy out awhile ago. Thanks for the perspective though even though it should be common sense that the best player doesn't always play.

Ah, so the best player doesnt always play? You mean when the coach is an idiot? Now THERE is something we can agree on. And its EXACTLY what I said about Heath.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Ah, so the best player doesnt always play? You mean when the coach is an idiot? Now THERE is something we can agree on. And its EXACTLY what I said about Heath.

Yes, Garrett sucks. Now that heath is starting I expect big things. I actually watched all 22 for the past two years and he rarely made mistakes in coverage

 

[DogFace]

No that is great production. But its only one game. And when the guy has been here 4 years that is 64 some odd games. So NO his production has been poor in his career as a whole. That is why he was riding the pine and playing special teams as much as he was. You didnt notice him the other 64 games because he wasnt doing much. And he WAS playing. Do yourself a favor and look at his career statistics. And AGAIN............if this guy was producing when he got the opportunity, then wouldnt have gotten much more opportunity? A starting job? Beat out Wilcox?

Will you tell me his career stats some more?

Now follow that with his career snaps

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yes, Garrett sucks. Now that heath is starting I expect big things. I actually watched all 22 for the past two years and he rarely made mistakes in coverage

Ok, you will get NO argument with me there. I have said several times that If Heath is good and he was rotting on the bench behind Wilcox, then its another screw up by Garrett. And Certainly Miriarinelli.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Will you tell me his career stats some more?

Now follow that with his career snaps

Snaps are included in his stats and have been factored in. He is NOT impressive with either the stat test OR the eye test. If you think so then I cry low standards. But that is just me. We need a stud, not an average guy or a stop gap veteran. That is what I am looking for.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I was on this board and posted the quote "Heath is not good at football".
It seemed funny and received a lot of likes.

I then had to be a big boy poster and admit I was wrong. He's produced when given the opportunity.


Woodson through four years 7 ints.

Romo through 4 years 19 td's.

Woodson was NOT a ball hawk. But he was great at tackling and great in coverage. He was a also a leader on defense. Heath is good at NONE of those things. Getting a few picks in 4 years is nothing to crow about. But if you think so , by all means enjoy. We will find out soon enough.