Yes or No to T.O?

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RCowboyFan;2568298 said:
YOu dump him. If you only see stats, then you deserve to suffer with the failure of the team I guess. Unfortunately I love the Cowboys, so I want him gone. He is not a bad guy, but has never been team guy. EVery WR whines for ball, but he just takes it to media. THats what bad about it.

He divided locker rooms everywhere he has been. If that is not proof enough, I am not what would need to happen to see TO being problem.

Cowboys got other problems too, but without TO being gone, I am not sure other problems can be resolved. And I think It will be too late, if Garrett is gone. I am sure lot of people will jump with joy about Garrett leaving, much like they did when Sean Payton left.

A team guy? Is it because you see the cameras pan over to the Cowboy's sidelines and you seem him yelling or getting in someone's face? Call me an idiot, but what I see is a guy who wants to win and a guy who is the only one on the team who has the fire and guts to get pissed off when the team is pulling another December swoon. T.O. is a man on a mission. He's always been that way, but the media loves to twist it to make the weak fans believe he is simply a cancer.

How wrong the fans are who want T.O. gone. Now I'm not going to curse Jerry if he does let T.O. go because T.O. ain't getting any younger. But when you get down to it, Owens is the only guy that can still take a pass from Romo to the house.

Do you expect Witten to do it? Hell no. Do you expect Crayton to do it? Hell no! Do you expect Miles or Sam to do what T.O. can do? Hell no!

Perhaps when Roy Williams has a complete offseason to acclimate himself to the offense, maybe. Better yet, Roy can be that guy when he is acclimated. Sorry folks. You can't expect Roy to be a hero when he was brought in right after midseason. Just doesn't happen.

Don't cry when T.O . gets cut. But don't come crying when T.O. is gone and there is no one that shares the same fire and game changing plays that only T.O. can give the Decemberless Cowboys!
 

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LowTech;2568519 said:
I've seen a few people saying TO divided the locker room. Does anyone have any proof or this just all talk?

You got to be kidding. Right? You think Media reports are all smoke and no fire. Heck even Michael Irvin is not defending TO that much anymore. Nate Newton already said TO needs to go, not because he is bad guy or player.

But then just like quite a few teammates, fans are the same way. They see the stats and love the guy. Just like in Philly and SF. Its never TO's fault for quite a few people.
 

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Fletch;2568557 said:
A team guy? Is it because you see the cameras pan over to the Cowboy's sidelines and you seem him yelling or getting in someone's face? Call me an idiot, but what I see is a guy who wants to win and a guy who is the only one on the team who has the fire and guts to get pissed off when the team is pulling another December swoon. T.O. is a man on a mission. He's always been that way, but the media loves to twist it to make the weak fans believe he is simply a cancer.
Seems like TO doesn't have much to say on the sidelines till he gets his, then he starts mouthing.
 

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Fletch;2568557 said:
A team guy? Is it because you see the cameras pan over to the Cowboy's sidelines and you seem him yelling or getting in someone's face? Call me an idiot, but what I see is a guy who wants to win and a guy who is the only one on the team who has the fire and guts to get pissed off when the team is pulling another December swoon. T.O. is a man on a mission. He's always been that way, but the media loves to twist it to make the weak fans believe he is simply a cancer.

How wrong the fans are who want T.O. gone. Now I'm not going to curse Jerry if he does let T.O. go because T.O. ain't getting any younger. But when you get down to it, Owens is the only guy that can still take a pass from Romo to the house.

Do you expect Witten to do it? Hell no. Do you expect Crayton to do it? Hell no! Do you expect Miles or Sam to do what T.O. can do? Hell no!

Perhaps when Roy Williams has a complete offseason to acclimate himself to the offense, maybe. Better yet, Roy can be that guy when he is acclimated. Sorry folks. You can't expect Roy to be a hero when he was brought in right after midseason. Just doesn't happen.

Don't cry when T.O . gets cut. But don't come crying when T.O. is gone and there is no one that shares the same fire and game changing plays that only T.O. can give the Decemberless Cowboys!


Meanwhile keep crying with TO, every December and January I guess. :rolleyes: Yep, Eagles have been crying ever since they lost TO, winning two more playoffs without him then they won with him.:bang2:

I guess some will never learn. No Wonder Jerry never will get it.
 

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RCowboyFan;2568558 said:
You got to be kidding. Right? You think Media reports are all smoke and no fire. Heck even Michael Irvin is not defending TO that much anymore. Nate Newton already said TO needs to go, not because he is bad guy or player.

But then just like quite a few teammates, fans are the same way. They see the stats and love the guy. Just like in Philly and SF. Its never TO's fault for quite a few people.


He asked for proof.

Got any?
 

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5Countem5;2568577 said:
He asked for proof.

Got any?

You mean like OJ is not guilty because the Gloves didn't fit type? What do you need, Video proof? Every media report said, that Witten and TO have issues. I guess reports are not to our convinience, then we need proof. I guess Nate Newton has some agenda against TO?

I am sure the same fans would not need any proof if TO did this with Eagles.

Yeah, go ahead, believe that TO didn't cause any issues. I guess, Media just had agenda. Star telegram, DMN, and every other media dicided to destroy TO and cowboys.
 

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A great player who makes our entire offense better, works his butt off as hard as anyone on the team, and wants badly to win a Super Bowl...

CUT HIS ***!!!!!!!
 

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All I asked for was some sort of validation of the accusations against TO. I apologize for not having an agenda of some type. I keep an open mind and do not necessarily believe everything I hear.

I regret there are those on the board that feel they need to talk down to someone who ask for proof.
 

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RCowboyFan;2568572 said:
Meanwhile keep crying with TO, every December and January I guess. :rolleyes: Yep, Eagles have been crying ever since they lost TO, winning two more playoffs without him then they won with him.:bang2:

I guess some will never learn. No Wonder Jerry never will get it.

Yep, cried all the way to the Super Bowl against the Pats with T.O. on one leg. :rolleyes:

Keep trying. I love how the media has pulled the wool over your eyes.
 

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Fletch;2568262 said:
Mike Golic brought it up on Mike & MIKE. Do we keep the man who has been the one bright spot when it comes to overall stats on offense? Or do we dump him because we are looking for more team chemistry?
I've been saying dump him but it really doesn't matter, this team has been collapsing after Thanksgiving long before T.O. got here. T.O.'s a problem but Jerry's the root problem and he ain't going nowhere and he ain't changing the way he runs this DISorganization either!
 

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Royal Laegotti;2568662 said:
I've been saying dump him but it really doesn't matter, this team has been collapsing after Thanksgiving long before T.O. got here. T.O.'s a problem but Jerry's the root problem and he ain't going nowhere and he ain't changing the way he runs this DISorganization either!


Sorry. Don't buy that either. Jerry buys and sells. Players execute. The Cowboys have been the one of the most talented teams in the NFL, and they just don't execute.

Now who's fault is that? Jerry's? Or the players?
 

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Fletch;2568680 said:
Sorry. Don't buy that either. Jerry buys and sells. Players execute. The Cowboys have been the one of the most talented teams in the NFL, and they just don't execute.

Now who's fault is that? Jerry's? Or the players?

Jerry hired the puppet coach and is sticking with him. Bottom line you can load up all the probowlers you want but with no leader no unity and no belief they ain't jack.

Besides Jerry is like a lingering fart cloud over this DISorganization, 12 years of being the common denominator without a playoff win is evidence that he's the problem across that span!
 

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I don't know how much of this locker room drama is true. I don't know how much of it is overblown.

Having said that, I still have an opinion, albeit an uneducated one.

I think where there is this much smoke, there is usually fire. I view TO as a burden to the coaches, QB, and some other offensive players. So if the problems are legit on any level, I would try to remedy them by moving TO out.
 

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LowTech;2568629 said:
All I asked for was some sort of validation of the accusations against TO. I apologize for not having an agenda of some type. I keep an open mind and do not necessarily believe everything I hear.

I regret there are those on the board that feel they need to talk down to someone who ask for proof.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139857&highlight=tells+witten+talk

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sharedc...tories/121408dnspocowaltercation.3c76322.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3764732

http://multimedia.foxsports.com/m/video/21658196/glazer_s_edge_divided_locker_room.htm?pageid=15472

http://www.star-telegram.com/281/story/1119019.html


But like I said, if you need video proof or proof how exactly he divided the lockeroom then I guess he is not dividing Lockeroom. But each to his own. I don't need more proof then reading it from media, when several different media outlets are reporting similar story, Its one thing if its one outlet.

Oh, I am not saying you have agenda or anything.
 

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Fletch;2568639 said:
Yep, cried all the way to the Super Bowl against the Pats with T.O. on one leg. :rolleyes:

Keep trying. I love how the media has pulled the wool over your eyes.

eh?? He only played Superbowl. Maybe you need to get your facts right. And they lost in the game he played. He might have helped them get to Playoffs, that the only thing he can claim to, that year.

Here is pop quiz for you, since you seem to love to blame media for everything and so media savvy, go and research and see how many playoff games TO has been that, his team has won?

So keep trying to preach to us un-intelligent fans that buy all the media hating on TO :rolleyes:
 

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T.O. better stay....the guy hasnt been a problem.....he makes witten and everyone better because they double team him we just need to get the ball to everyone...
 
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