Yet Another QB Ranking - But This One Shocked Me Twice

[erod]

Didn't say he hasn't suffered any meltdowns but not like Romo has. I know Ryan's "Matty Ice" nickname started in high school but he still carries that nickname despite melting in some of his playoff games. I'm not saying Romo isn't superior to Ryan he is but it's been the ill-timed mistakes and some of Romo's poor elimination game performances that created the stigma he has.

Difference is, those 2-14 rosters had no business being in those games. Romo got there despite them.

All quarterbacks make mistakes, but Brady and Manning have theirs covered up by their defense.

 

[5Stars]

Difference is, those 2-14 rosters had no business being in those games. Romo got there despite them.

All quarterbacks make mistakes, but Brady and Manning have theirs covered up by their defense.

lol You really think he will believe that?

 

[landroverking]

Why are we feeding the troll?
He is getting so fat on this thread.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Hell Ryan never wins and never gets ripped either.

I'm not sure where all the love for Ryan comes from either. Good call.

 

[KJJ]

Difference is, those 2-14 rosters had no business being in those games. Romo got there despite them.

All quarterbacks make mistakes, but Brady and Manning have theirs covered up by their defense.

Not one team Romo has played for do I see a 2-14 roster....get real! Even the 2010 team that Romo ended up 1-4 with in the 5 full games prior to his injury still ended up winning 5 more games with an aging Jon Kitna. That team got dismantled after that season because it was clearly the worst team under Romo. The problem with many here is they try and spin that Romo's never had a good team which is ridiculous. Several months ago a FAN tried telling me that Andrew Luck is fortunate he didn't start off with the teams Romo had or he wouldn't have won 4 games. I almost fell off my chair when I read that because Luck started off with a 2-14 team. LOL The year before Romo took over the Cowboys they were a 9-7 team and when he became the starter in 06 they were a 3-3 team. Romo's had some talent around him every year. In 06 he had TO a future HOF WR and Jason Witten a future HOF TE. The Cowboys had a veteran OL that was pretty solid and one of the best pass rushers in the league on defense in Demarcus Ware. The players Romo had around him those years are part of the reason those teams made the playoffs and were in contention the years they missed.

The Cowboys had an excellent team in 07 that had 13 pro bowl players on it but I've seen FANS tear that team down claiming it wasn't any good. That was a 13-3 team that ended up the #1 seed. The 09 team went 11-5 knocking off the 13-0 Saints at the dome and finished the season with back to back shutouts. That team dominated Philly in the playoffs but I've seen FANS claim that team wasn't any good. Trust me if Romo never reaches or wins a SB many FANS will claim he never played for a good team including the 2014 team. They'll tear that team down by pointing to the defense. As for Brady he gets a pass for all the bad games he's had because he's played in 6 SB's winning 3 of them. Manning gets a pass for all his bad games for being arguably the greatest regular season QB in history and playing in 3 SB's winning one of them. However his losing playoff record has tarnished his career some. His 11-13 playoff record that's included several one and outs has made some downgrade him on the all-time list.

 

[DanteEXT]

I've never once seen anyone claim the '07 or '09 teams as being bad. Almost have to believe someone is making stuff up again.

 

[snapper]

you are pathetic. Hypocrisy should be your screen name. How EASILY you forget a certian ELIMINATION GAME that Ryan stank it up and threw picks.

I remember it was either fisher or someone else that said only ROMO HATERS ever talk about elimination games.

 

[KJJ]

Romo hasn't ever been on a good team?

What about the 2007 team that went 13-3 and had a NFL record 13 Pro-bowl players?

I need to revisit this quote again because it confirms what I've seen on this board many times where FANS claim Romo has never been on a good team. Someone just claimed yesterday he's been apart of some 2-14 rosters which is absurd. I pointed out the 2010 team that was clearly the worst team Romo played for and it managed 5 of their 6 wins without him. You read some of the craziest comments on boards like this. I mentioned the FAN who claimed Andrew Luck is fortunate he didn't start off with as bad a team as Romo did in 06 when Luck started off with a 2-14 team. LOL I've seen several spin that Luck has more to work with in Indy than Romo did his first few seasons with the Cowboys which is ridiculous!

I'll never forget the thread that was started 3 years ago titled "Romo = Archie Manning" trying to spin Romo's been apart of nothing but crappy teams. Google search "Tony Romo = Archie Manning Cowboyszone." There those who try and make it appear Romo has played for some dreadful talentless teams to make excuses for why he hasn't been more successful. I've seen several posts over the years where claims have been made that if Romo played in NE or Green Bay both teams would have won more SB's than with Brady or Rodgers. One of the top 5 most ridiculous comments I ever read was from a FAN who told me he would take Romo over Aaron Rodgers any day. I asked why he felt that way and he responded by saying Rodgers passes would be too flat for the Cowboys receivers. I've gotten some of the biggest laughs ever from comments I've read on this board. Some are so ridiculous you think it must be sarcasm or just a joke but these are serious comments from FANS.

 

[DanteEXT]

So KJJ believes the 2011 Colts were a talentless team that still would have been a 2-14 even if Manning had played that season.

 

[KJJ]

Difference is, those 2-14 rosters had no business being in those games. Romo got there despite them.

Would really like to see you point out where Romo ever had a 2-14 roster without him. The 2010 team that was dismantled after that season was the worst team he played for and that team won 5 games without him. Andrew Luck's roster was clearly a 2-14 roster without him or Manning because they ended up 2-14 with no QB. I doubt Indy could win 5 games in 2015 without Luck. Romo has had to carry the Cowboys from 2011 to 2013 but he could only carry them to 8-8 records. Everyone of those 8-8 teams blew a number of games due to poor defensive play and some costly ill-timed turnovers by Romo. Romo is a very good QB I've never disputed that but he can't a carry a team as far as an Andrew Luck or Aaron Rodgers can carry there teams.

 

[erod]

Would really like to see you point out where Romo ever had a 2-14 roster without him. The 2010 team that was dismantled after that season was the worst team he played for and that team won 5 games without him. Andrew Luck's roster was clearly a 2-14 roster without him or Manning because they ended up 2-14 with no QB. I doubt Indy could win 5 games in 2015 without Luck. Romo has had to carry the Cowboys from 2011 to 2013 but he could only carry them to 8-8 records.

Worst defense in NFL history statistically.

A starting offensive line of guys that are now all out of football, except for Doug Free.

Andrew Luck never saw anything like that.

If Aikman were behind that line, they would have gone 2-14.

 

[KJJ]

Worst defense in NFL history statistically.

A starting offensive line of guys that are now all out of football, except for Doug Free.

Andrew Luck never saw anything like that.

If Aikman were behind that line, they would have gone 2-14.

Aaron Rodgers had a defense in 2011 that was almost as bad historically as the defense Romo had in 2013. The Packers 2011 defense ranked 32nd but Rodgers led that team to a 15-1 record. Ben Roethlisberger won a SB in 2008 with one of the worst OL's ever. Roethlisberger was sacked 48 times that season and was carted of the field late that year with an injury. His OL couldn't run block or pass protect but he managed to hang in despite the beating he took. Andrew Luck didn't start off with a TO and a Jason Witten. He didn't start off with a back as good as Marion Barber and his OL wasn't as good as the veteran OL Romo started off with. Romo's OL's haven't been near as bad as the OL's the Cowboys had under Campo that saw one jail break after another. Campo's teams had little at WR and no QB but still managed 5 wins in each of his 3 seasons as HC. It's a ridiculous exaggeration to spin that Romo has ever had a 2-14 roster with some of the impressive talent this team has had over his 9 years at QB. He's been working with one of the best young WR's in the game the past 5 years and he has a HOF TE. He had the top rusher in the league last season who set a franchise rushing record and has arguably the best OL in football. Pus his young dynamic WR set a franchise record with 16 TD's but the team still didn't win as many regular season games as they did under Romo in 2007.

Parcells left the Cowboys with enough talent to win 9 games in 2006 and were only a bobbled snap away from advancing in the playoffs that season. The Cowboys had enough talent to go 13-3 in 07 manhandling the eventual SB champion Giants twice during the regular season. That team was talented enough to beat a 10-1 Packers team. That team dominated the NFC that season until it mattered most. In 2011 the Cowboys could have won 12 games had they not blown games to the Jets on opening night and not blown a franchise record 24 point lead to Detroit. They blew leads late to NE and to a bad AZ team. Everyone of those 8-8 seasons could have had at least 10 wins had it not been for blown 4th quarter leads. It's ludicrous for anyone to spin that Romo has been stuck on some 2-14 rosters when the 2010 team that won 6 games was clearly his worst team which is why that roster got turned over.

Everyone talks about how great Romo's OL was last season but he still got sacked 29 times which was two more sacks than Andrew Luck took behind an OL that isn't close to being as good as Romo's. To top it off Romo attempted 181 fewer passes than Luck and had a great running game and still took more sacks than Luck. Troy Aikman played behind FAR WORSE OL's than Romo ever played behind when he first came into the league which is why he suffered so many concussions and had his own back issues that shortened his career. Romo is an excellent QB but it's ridiculous for FANS to claim he's played for bad teams. These are FANS who are searching for excuses for why Romo hasn't been more successful. It certainly hasn't been all Romo's fault no matter how much the haters spin that I'm putting it all on him but his lack of success has been a team effort and he's contributed.

 

[5Stars]

Aaron Rodgers had a defense in 2011 that was almost as bad historically as the defense Romo had in 2013. The Packers 2011 defense ranked 32nd but Rodgers led that team to a 15-1 record. Ben Roethlisberger won a SB in 2008 with one of the worst OL's ever. Roethlisberger was sacked 48 times that season and was carted of the field late that year with an injury. His OL couldn't run block or pass protect but he managed to hang in despite the beating he took. Andrew Luck didn't start off with a TO and a Jason Witten. He didn't start off with a back as good as Marion Barber and his OL wasn't as good as the veteran OL Romo started off with. Romo's OL's haven't been near as bad as the OL's the Cowboys had under Campo that saw one jail break after another. Campo's teams had little at WR and no QB but still managed 5 wins in each of his 3 seasons as HC. It's a ridiculous exaggeration to spin that Romo has ever had a 2-14 roster with some of the impressive talent this team has had over his 9 years at QB. He's been working with one of the best young WR's in the game the past 5 years and he has a HOF TE. He had the top rusher in the league last season who set a franchise rushing record and has arguably the best OL in football. Pus his young dynamic WR set a franchise record with 16 TD's but the team still didn't win as many regular season games as they did under Romo in 2007.

Parcells left the Cowboys with enough talent to win 9 games in 2006 and were only a bobbled snap away from advancing in the playoffs that season. The Cowboys had enough talent to go 13-3 in 07 manhandling the eventual SB champion Giants twice during the regular season. That team was talented enough to beat a 10-1 Packers team. That team dominated the NFC that season until it mattered most. In 2011 the Cowboys could have won 12 games had they not blown games to the Jets on opening night and not blown a franchise record 24 point lead to Detroit. They blew leads late to NE and to a bad AZ team. Everyone of those 8-8 seasons could have had at least 10 wins had it not been for blown 4th quarter leads. It's ludicrous for anyone to spin that Romo has been stuck on some 2-14 rosters when the 2010 team that won 6 games was clearly his worst team which is why that roster got turned over.

Everyone talks about how great Romo's OL was last season but he still got sacked 29 times which was two more sacks than Andrew Luck took behind an OL that isn't close to being as good as Romo's. To top it off Romo attempted 181 fewer passes than Luck and had a great running game and still took more sacks than Luck. Troy Aikman played behind FAR WORSE OL's than Romo ever played behind when he first came into the league which is why he suffered so many concussions and had his own back issues that shortened his career. Romo is an excellent QB but it's ridiculous for FANS to claim he's played for bad teams. These are FANS who are searching for excuses for why Romo hasn't been more successful. It certainly hasn't been all Romo's fault no matter how much the haters spin that I'm putting it all on him but his lack of success has been a team effort and he's contributed.

blah, blah, blah....

 

[KJJ]

Worst defense in NFL history statistically.

It was the 3rd worst defense in NFL history statistically. The defense Aaron Rodgers had in 2011 ranked in the top 10 worst defenses in NFL history statistically and he led that team to a 15-1 record but according to one FAN the trajectory of Rodgers passes would be too flat for the Cowboys WR's.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Aaron Rodgers had a defense in 2011 that was almost as bad historically as the defense Romo had in 2013. The Packers 2011 defense ranked 32nd but Rodgers led that team to a 15-1 record. Ben Roethlisberger won a SB in 2008 with one of the worst OL's ever. Roethlisberger was sacked 48 times that season and was carted of the field late that year with an injury. His OL couldn't run block or pass protect but he managed to hang in despite the beating he took. Andrew Luck didn't start off with a TO and a Jason Witten. He didn't start off with a back as good as Marion Barber and his OL wasn't as good as the veteran OL Romo started off with. Romo's OL's haven't been near as bad as the OL's the Cowboys had under Campo that saw one jail break after another. Campo's teams had little at WR and no QB but still managed 5 wins in each of his 3 seasons as HC. It's a ridiculous exaggeration to spin that Romo has ever had a 2-14 roster with some of the impressive talent this team has had over his 9 years at QB. He's been working with one of the best young WR's in the game the past 5 years and he has a HOF TE. He had the top rusher in the league last season who set a franchise rushing record and has arguably the best OL in football. Pus his young dynamic WR set a franchise record with 16 TD's but the team still didn't win as many regular season games as they did under Romo in 2007.

Parcells left the Cowboys with enough talent to win 9 games in 2006 and were only a bobbled snap away from advancing in the playoffs that season. The Cowboys had enough talent to go 13-3 in 07 manhandling the eventual SB champion Giants twice during the regular season. That team was talented enough to beat a 10-1 Packers team. That team dominated the NFC that season until it mattered most. In 2011 the Cowboys could have won 12 games had they not blown games to the Jets on opening night and not blown a franchise record 24 point lead to Detroit. They blew leads late to NE and to a bad AZ team. Everyone of those 8-8 seasons could have had at least 10 wins had it not been for blown 4th quarter leads. It's ludicrous for anyone to spin that Romo has been stuck on some 2-14 rosters when the 2010 team that won 6 games was clearly his worst team which is why that roster got turned over.

Everyone talks about how great Romo's OL was last season but he still got sacked 29 times which was two more sacks than Andrew Luck took behind an OL that isn't close to being as good as Romo's. To top it off Romo attempted 181 fewer passes than Luck and had a great running game and still took more sacks than Luck. Troy Aikman played behind FAR WORSE OL's than Romo ever played behind when he first came into the league which is why he suffered so many concussions and had his own back issues that shortened his career. Romo is an excellent QB but it's ridiculous for FANS to claim he's played for bad teams. These are FANS who are searching for excuses for why Romo hasn't been more successful. It certainly hasn't been all Romo's fault no matter how much the haters spin that I'm putting it all on him but his lack of success has been a team effort and he's contributed.

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[ufcrules1]

Worst defense in NFL history statistically.

A starting offensive line of guys that are now all out of football, except for Doug Free.

Andrew Luck never saw anything like that.

If Aikman were behind that line, they would have gone 2-14.

Negative. Luck took over a horrible 2-14 team. Not a made up 2-14 team but a legit one with a horrible Oline. They went to the playoffs the year Luck took over. If Luck was the QB here we would be super bowl favorites right now. Don't underestimate Luck. That dude is legit and just continues to get better every year and appears to have a real high ceiling. Aaron Rodgers type ceiling.

 

[KJJ]

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That's typical of FANS they usually don't get it.

 

[ufcrules1]

So KJJ believes the 2011 Colts were a talentless team that still would have been a 2-14 even if Manning had played that season.

They were pretty talentless but with that said, if Peyton was the QB they would have finished a lot higher than 2-14 that is for dang sure. Peyton makes just about any team better.

 

[5Stars]

That's typical of FANS they usually don't get it.

It's also typical of TROLLS to hate on a QB of a team that they supposedly root for and give credit to every other QB in the NFL except Romo.

Troll on...

 

[KJJ]

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By the way who is that the one who keeps passing out all the likes?