CFZ You can't always get what you want

[Diehardblues]

Very interesting but what would make that even more revealing is where their run games and defenses ranked.

Bradshaw got 4 and the HOF, does that happen without Franco Harris and the Steel Curtain?

No hotshot QB, and Elway proved that prior to Shanahan and Marino every season, can carry a team. Back in the day, you didn't need the records to see which teams made the playoffs, just check their pass rankings.

While I’d agree with your argument over Prescott and overall narrative we must not lose face what an Elite QB could have meant this era.

Unfortunately most teams must build around the next group of QB’s which we have had this era. And we’ve been lucky to have found Romo and Dak.

That said we can’t help but wonder . Who knows we could have totally bundled an Elite QB, especially with this ownership but we shouldn’t discount what one could have meant.

And I think that’s where some fans are wanting and wishing for one. The rest are basically are either trolling or bashing him based on the Elite status our owner and his salary and status have presented.

 

[cnuball21]

Of course, but not because they were a 1st round QB. Your odds don't go up w/ a 1st round QB, they go up w/ a good QB. Most good QBs are taken in the 1st due to the extreme positional value, so there are very few secrets about QBs coming into the draft. So, if a QB has any potential at all, he'll most likely go in the 1st, sometimes in the 2nd.

Being good has nothing to do w/ the round taken.

Yea, there’s good QBs that have been drafted in all rounds but teams overdraft the heck out of them so like you said anyone that looks decent will go early.

The dudes that go top 5ish are usually studs then late 1st rounders are usually dudes that should’ve be drafted in the 1st round.

 

[kskboys]

While I’d agree with your argument over Prescott and overall narrative we must not lose face what an Elite QB could have meant this era.

Unfortunately most teams must build around the next group of QB’s which we have had this era. And we’ve been lucky to have found Romo and Dak.

That said we can’t help but wonder . Who knows we could have totally bundled an Elite QB, especially with this ownership but we shouldn’t discount what one could have meant.

And I think that’s where some fans are wanting and wishing for one. The rest are basically are either trolling or bashing him based on the Elite status our owner and his salary and status have presented.

Most QB talk on this site is inane and should be ignored.

 

[cnuball21]

Most QB talk on this site is inane and should be ignored.

Lol, soooooooo true. The swing of emotions week by week about our QB are laughable.

 

[kskboys]

Lol, soooooooo true. The swing of emotions week by week about our QB are laughable.

Yup. This thread is a perfect example. The OP gave a good evaluation and was immediately made fun of w/ no thought or assessment.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

And so the Stones song goes and this has a very good application for the Cowboys and their QB and this is not another Dak Prescott thread, it is about all the other QB's they could have.

While I wasted time watching that Jags-Jets snorer last night, I was struck by something about the Jets and their situation at QB, that could be the Cowboys.

Famous 2nd picks in the draft Ryan Leaf, Carson Wentz and Zack Wilson are a lesson for those of us who have forgotten the lessons between Aikman and Romo. Or they could have had Lynch or Cook instead of Prescott.

But let's not stop with the busts at that 2nd pick. How about these 1st round QB picks: Andre Ware, Jeff George, Todd Marinovich, David Klingler, Art Schlichter, Josh Rosen, Todd Blackledge, Kelly Stouffer, Heath Shuler, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Cade McNown, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel (could have had him) and Marcus Mariotta. Most of those QB's were slingers, right down the owner's sweet spot.

The QB pool every year is a swim at your own risk with the best QB scouts in the league. The Cowboys wanted Lynch and Cook, think about that while you want a different QB. While you are at it, think about how they got Romo and Prescott or this could be even worse.

Even the highly touted QB's like Allen, Herbert, Burrow and Mahomes need help. Rodgers is a pretty good example of that as well.

So, what's easier to do. Strike gold with a blue chip QB that can lift the team and how many are there really like that or get a QB in the top 1/3 and once you have him, build around him?

I get it with those that do not want Prescott as the DC QB but might want cancel out need? The NYJ are now faced with a real QB problem and the Cowboys are not. The NYG and WAS might also have QB problems because Damiel Jones was a 1st round pick and no way I'd take him over Prescott.

When I consider the brain trust of this team and the QB history, that is one position I do not want them picking out of need. Much rather have them picking any other positions.

good teams figure it out. bad teams are in an endless cycle. Philly has been really smart, with their FO moves. they got rid of Wentz, and then got hurts...a bit of luck, but they then realized he is not elite and they build a team around him. their defense is good. consistent. they run the ball well. they made trades and they put themselves in this position. they signed the right FA at the right price, right time. just one additional cog in the machine. we pursued OBJ, and the flash, they got Suh and solidified their depth and run defense. we look for what sells jersey's and airtime, they look to solidify and build championship type teams.

 

[CouchCoach]

good teams figure it out. bad teams are in an endless cycle. Philly has been really smart, with their FO moves. they got rid of Wentz, and then got hurts...a bit of luck, but they then realized he is not elite and they build a team around him. their defense is good. consistent. they run the ball well. they made trades and they put themselves in this position. they signed the right FA at the right price, right time. just one additional cog in the machine. we pursued OBJ, and the flash, they got Suh and solidified their depth and run defense. we look for what sells jersey's and airtime, they look to solidify and build championship type teams.

It is simple. Roseman has to produce or he will be replaced like 29 other GM's in the NFL. He already got replaced once by Chip Kelly.

The Cowboys win whether they play or not. Their moves are calculated by how much media coverage he can get. Beckham was the lightning rod for the last part of the season and he couldn't even contribute in the regular season. Suh was a part for the engine: Beckham is a new paint job.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It is simple. Roseman has to produce or he will be replaced like 29 other GM's in the NFL. He already got replaced once by Chip Kelly.

The Cowboys win whether they play or not. Their moves are calculated by how much media coverage he can get. Beckham was the lightning rod for the last part of the season and he couldn't even contribute in the regular season. Suh was a part for the engine: Beckham is a new paint job.

exactly, we are not about winning, except enough to keep cowboys relevant, tuned in and hopeful. so the sales are maximized and profits go through the roof and the team is most valuable.

its the culture Jones cretaed. no meat and potatoes and lunch pale guys, just flash and no substance....that sells.

 

[offlimits]

Yup.

I think we can make a run with Dak, but I’m not opposed to drafting developmental QBs the next few years to try and find the next guy at the same time. Don’t see us having a high 1st rounder anytime soon.

I have mentioned this before but that is why Bill Walsh in the 80's would draft a QB, at some point, every year in the draft.

 

[cnuball21]

I have mentioned this before but that is why Bill Walsh in the 80's would draft a QB, at some point, every year in the draft.

Why not? Maybe not every year and not too early but if there’s a toolsy kid in the mid rounds I’m certainly not opposed to it.