You don't move on from Dak unless you have The Franchise already on the roster

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I won’t prove your point for you. It’s all good have a nice day.

It is typical nonsense. He wants to be an authority but cannot back his word.

 

[cald0d30s0]

Favre, Rodgers, and Manning were all SB winners. Dak is not. Bad comparison. If you don't already have THE GUY, meaning an obvious Mohomes, Brady, Rodgers, etc, then you need to keep drafting and changing QBs frequently so you don't end up paying the wrong guy, and getting stuck in the situation we are currently.

IOW - keep riding rookie contracts for QBs and switch them out for new QBs when their rookie deal is up if they haven't won the SB. Only pay and keep a QB long term if they win the SB during the rookie contract.

Yes, you might cut a guy too soon, but the long term trends show that the best strategy is to draft QBs in the first round, and only pay QBs who win you a SB on their rookie deal.

Protect this user at all cost.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It is typical nonsense. He wants to be an authority but cannot back his word.

Exactly. Not sure what type of debate he’s trying to have where he wants me to defend his stance. Crazy….

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You would think it wouldn't have to be all or nothing. You used all caps in your rant. It is what it is.

And you are nuts. I of course did not use "all caps" in my "rant".

A few...yes.

You okay? Very concerning you don't know what "all" means.

 

[Vtwin]

You would think it wouldn't have to be all or nothing. You used all caps in your rant. It is what it is.

Most would think that using all caps for a single word would simply be an effort to highlight that single word. At least those inclined to try and understand the nuances involved in any given situation.

Now can we do Pedantic?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Most would think that using all caps for a single word would simply be an effort to highlight that single word. At least those inclined to try and understand the nuances involved in any given situation.

Now can we do Pedantic?

That would be fun!

What's off to me is the obsession about alleged transgression of "all caps"...yet not one mention of intellectually dishonest conversation.

It's a very strange world...

 

[Vtwin]

That would be fun!

What's off to me is the obsession about alleged transgression of "all caps"...yet not one mention of intellectually dishonest conversation.

It's a very strange world...

It's crazy how some of these super intellectual types (and TMC) don't seem to see how dishonest their "arguments" are. It's never about getting it right for them. It is only about being right. They reach for, and cling to whatever is necessary to keep alive their perception that they are right.

Nothing else matters to them.

 

[TNCowboy]

Green Bay had Favre and did not move on from four until they were sure on Aaron Rodgers.

Many years later, Green Bay did not move on from Aaron Rodgers until they were sure Jordan Love was the guy.

The Colts did not move on from Peyton Manning until they had Andrew Luck.

Successful organizations don’t move on from guys until they have the guy.

If you don’t have a plan, it could be several 5-11 seasons (like Washington since cousins left).

So unless he drafts a qb, he would gambling the franchises stability and worth. Or he would have to believe in Trey Lance.

In 2016, I saw Dallas play Cleveland in Cleveland. Cleveland was winless (0-8?) and the fans that did show up (very little), all left by the end of the first quarter. Concession stands, etc. had no lines.

I don’t think he moves on until he has the guy in house. He moved on from Romo because he had Dak. He has shown that awareness in the past. And Dak and Dallas have made the playoffs consistently, he needs to step up in the playoffs.

It’s Jerry’s money, he has to pay Dak until he has someone better. He knows it, Dak knows it.

Go Cowboys!

Dak isn't a franchise player. Comparing our situation to Favre and Manning is comical.

 

[kskboys]

Dak isn't a franchise player. Comparing our situation to Favre and Manning is comical.

Dak reminds me of Aaron Brooks.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Green Bay had Favre and did not move on from four until they were sure on Aaron Rodgers.

Many years later, Green Bay did not move on from Aaron Rodgers until they were sure Jordan Love was the guy.

The Colts did not move on from Peyton Manning until they had Andrew Luck.

Successful organizations don’t move on from guys until they have the guy.

If you don’t have a plan, it could be several 5-11 seasons (like Washington since cousins left).

So unless he drafts a qb, he would gambling the franchises stability and worth. Or he would have to believe in Trey Lance.

In 2016, I saw Dallas play Cleveland in Cleveland. Cleveland was winless (0-8?) and the fans that did show up (very little), all left by the end of the first quarter. Concession stands, etc. had no lines.

I don’t think he moves on until he has the guy in house. He moved on from Romo because he had Dak. He has shown that awareness in the past. And Dak and Dallas have made the playoffs consistently, he needs to step up in the playoffs.

It’s Jerry’s money, he has to pay Dak until he has someone better. He knows it, Dak knows it.

Go Cowboys!

No. You don't have to pay a player until you find someone better. You don't even have to wait until you find one who is a better *value* for the money.

If you don't think Dak is enough, you move on from him whether or not you think you have a replacement. You don't dump wheel barrows of cash down a dead end player. Put that money towards players who have a future here.

When Romo and Kellen Moore went down, we didn't think we had a replacement. We just played our 4th round developmental rookie QB. And whaddya know? He was pretty good. And being young and cheap, we could *run* him, getting yardage and 6 TDs a year for his first 3 years.

With QBs costing so much, spend your money building the rest of the team, and spend cheap on QBs that you can afford to run until you hit on a decent one.

 

[Blitzen]

I have no intention of doing your homework for you. You asked, I answered. Not rocket science.

Carr drug some pretty bad LV teams to some wins.

Dan Marino had 1 thousand yd rusher during his entire career and no D to speak of.

Don Meredith was on some really bad Cowboys teams. Shortened his career dramatically.

Those are off the top of my head. If you don't know something, research it instead of some lazy request.

It’s just the same absurd strawman type arguments. Like we need to tailor every single detail into our stances for it to be a legit argument. I figured it was a given that my general stance is plain. Several QB’s look good to great at their jobs even when the team is losing lots of games. Also several QB’s have drug subpar (poor) offenses along for a winning season and in Mahomes’ case a SB winning season last year (though somehow Pacheco and Rice are serious quality weapons now lol-when it suits your narrative).

The problem of course is that someone that opposes this view can just point to the winning results and say that the surrounding cast is definitely good because of the end results-whilst ignoring context and details along the way. I can agree that I will likely never be able to prove with math and science what my eyes, instincts, and knowledge of the game tell me plainly. That Mahomes had a barely functional offense and had to repeatedly push himself to his own boundaries just to move the football and score points. Anyone watching with a non-biased eye could tell that while Pat is not superhuman-he was able to grind out possessions and move the offense and score when they had to have it (yes of course the defense was the superior unit). That game against Baltimore showed me that while Baltimore was somewhere in the order of 100 times more talented overall as a roster-superior teams can lose games when the QB plays scared and dumb with a couple of timely mistakes by teammates- And the inferior team has an elite QB that refuses to make the enormous dumb play that gives the game away. KC defense played well that game but there is no way they should have held the Baltimore offense to a game like that-Lamar froze up too often and made two critical errors that are a hallmark of his worst mistakes (holding the ball too long and forcing the ball into a bad area).

 

[Redline360]

Cowboys high powered offense could have also marched down the field and scored a TD on their opening drive or at least put up a FG. Cowboys defense forced a punt on the Packers second possession. Dak and the offense had the ability to completely change the pace of the game by taking the lead or at least put up another FG.

Drastically changes the momentum. The offense piling on no points, quick turn around, and giving the packers 14pts just contributed to the snow ball getting bigger and bigger

S*** show all around

 

[kskboys]

It is typical nonsense. He wants to be an authority but cannot back his word.

Gawdawmighty, you just cannot be this aphasic. To jump into a convo that the guy lost badly just to insult is beyond inane. Maybe limit your convos to simple stuff so you have at least a semblance of comprehension.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

Some of yall want to go back to the Post-Aikman/Pre-Romo era so badly... then somehow still blame Dak.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I'd never want to go away from dak. I have all my gray stained tee shirts with #4 on them. I support the crap out of him. Who would we get to come unglued in big games? We all know he chokes in big games so I think we should keep him because 1 out of 100 times he might not choke if everybody carries him.
Go dak............ie

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

LMAO !!

We can't move on from DAK !!

But we can't have competition for Dak either !!

LMAO

Dakstans

OP literally said the opposite of this. If not, where did he say "We cant have competition for Dak"?

The Lance signing last year proved to be nothing but a fart in the wind. After the same two people that liked your post said he would be better than Dak...

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

I'd never want to go away from dak. I have all my gray stained tee shirts with #4 on them. I support the crap out of him. Who would we get to come unglued in big games? We all know he chokes in big games so I think we should keep him because 1 out of 100 times he might not choke if everybody carries him.
Go dak............ie

If Dak left and the team was down bad, yall wouldnt know who to blame.

Especially if the defense repeated their GB playoff performance... and dont let Dak be good with his next team...

have you seen the movie "Scanner's"?

 

[Captain-Crash]

If Dak left and the team was down bad, yall wouldnt know who to blame.

Especially if the defense repeated their GB playoff performance... and dont let Dak be good with his next team...

have you seen the movie "Scanner's"?

yeah, I'm scared too, what if he goes somewhere else, and his new team benefits from Jerry training him?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Gawdawmighty, you just cannot be this aphasic. To jump into a convo that the guy lost badly just to insult is beyond inane. Maybe limit your convos to simple stuff so you have at least a semblance of comprehension.

You made a claim and were and asked to back it. You still cannot.

Now you are claiming victory and assuming authority while acting insecure about our relative intelligences.

 

[Chasing6]

Favre, Rodgers, and Manning were all SB winners. Dak is not. Bad comparison. If you don't already have THE GUY, meaning an obvious Mohomes, Brady, Rodgers, etc, then you need to keep drafting and changing QBs frequently so you don't end up paying the wrong guy, and getting stuck in the situation we are currently.

IOW - keep riding rookie contracts for QBs and switch them out for new QBs when their rookie deal is up if they haven't won the SB. Only pay and keep a QB long term if they win the SB during the rookie contract.

Yes, you might cut a guy too soon, but the long term trends show that the best strategy is to draft QBs in the first round, and only pay QBs who win you a SB on their rookie deal.

Because drafting means you already have the guy??? So every team in the NFL should be drafting a QB next this year accept the Jets and KC???

The long term trends show drafting a QB in round 1 are a long shot at best to win a SB.