You expect me to believe another year of Romo, Witten, Ware, Garrett is supposed to compete w/that?

[Picksix]

I saw a team out there today that was more talented, more physical, more charismatic, and more coaching than our boys. Jerry did not create this mess in overnight so we shouldn't expect a fix overnight as well. The cap and the severe lack of talent on this team is going to take at the bare minimum 2 years to fix.

As long as Jerry is being Jerry, I don't see us ever being that good. You title the thread with names like Romo, Ware, Garrett. You could sub a lot of names in there. Doesn't matter as long as the man in charge doesn't change.

 

[Beast_from_East]

We don't belong on the same field as Seattle. We are like a Jr. High team compared to them, its comical.

We could not even make Denver punt and some of you guys think we could compete with Seattle.........................LOL

 

[Blackspider214]

Well, I do agree with your premise, but in a couple years, when we might actually field a talented and deep team, Seattle won't be able to afford half the talent they have. They have done it the right way and it got them a Superbowl so I applaud them. I think they are on the build up/tear down/rebuild model though.

Yeah but Seattle drafts very well and has a plan. They find gems late in rounds that develop. Nothing we draft ever develops into anything outside a handful of guys. Those young guys leave and get their payday, there will be talented young guys to fill their place. Will it produce Super Bowls every year? Of course not. But they will be in the mix for the next 5 or so years.

We have absolutely no clue what we are doing or have any direction. And it shows drafting a lame TE in the 2nd round for some supposed offensive package we were going to running out of quite a bit and then never did. And drafting guys made of glass.

We are a mess.

 

[Alexander]

Depends on what you consider pass defense. If you're just referring to the coverage part, then it's mistaken. I take it to mean the entire defense...pass rush and coverage.

Oh yes, semantics.

I am sure that is exactly what he meant. The whole defense.

 

[jnday]

It takes just a second to see the difference in the Boys and Hawks. The Seahawks play smart, physical football with a nasty attitude. The coaching staff is very good and the GM does a great job acquiring talent. Dallas doesn't. It is not hard to figure out at all.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I might have been born at night but not last night. We are years from competing with those monsters in Seattle.

At least we will be entertained.

 

[Picksix]

Oh yes, semantics.

I am sure that is exactly what he meant. The whole defense.

I don't know what he meant. I'm just telling you what I took it to mean. If all he was referring to was the coverage in the secondary, then yes, that's not enough.

 

[funkytown]

Seattle knows how to draft players for their system. They made smart but agressive moves in free agency/trades with Avril, Bennett, Harvin, Lynch.

They have a plan in place, and it shows. Their players are big, strong, fast, physical and you can see it all over the field. They play with passion. I'm extremely jealous of that franchise, and the team they are building.l

But I ride with my Boys no matter what.

 

[texbumthelife]

Not sure you know what your talking about.

Wilson is making around 500k per season. Not the ridiculous cap number of Romo. They paid about what Dallas paid for spencer for Bennett AND Avril. They locked up Chancellor and harvin long term. They have the youngest team in the league. Jones keeps paying age and orchestrating poor drafts.

Don't call me out. I know exactly what I am talking about.

Richard Sherman is on year three of a four year 2.2 million dollar contract. He is making $555,000 this year. When they resign him, he will likely be making 10+ million/yr.
Earl Thomas is on year four a five year 18 million dollar contract. He is making $2 mill this season. When they resign him, he will likely be making 10+ million/yr.
Russell Wilson is on year two of a four year 3 million dollar contract. He is making $500k this season. When resigned, he will be making 10+ million/yr.
KJ Wright is on year three of a four year 2.5 million dollar contract. He is making $500k this season. When resigned, he will be in the 8-10 million/yr range.
Bruce Irvin is on year year two of a four year 9.3 million dollar contract. He is making $622k this season. He has a little more to prove, but even if his play doesn't get any better and come back as he was, he will easily be in the 8-10 million/yr range.
Brandon Browner is on a one year 770K contract. He will be due for a substantial raise. Though not as much as these other guys, he will likely jump up to the 5-8 million/yr range.
Michael Bennet is on a one year 4.8 million dollar contract. He is going to get twice that, at least in the open market this off season after what he showed in Seattle. Thats 8-10 million/yr.

Just between those players, who are the core of their defensive playmakers and their franchise cornerback, your looking at 60+ million/year locked up within the next two years, or they lose some substantial contributors.

So, like I already said, in two years when we should (thought I won't trust Jerry until I see it) viable, they will be just as salary cap strapped as most teams, or bringing in more young guys hoping to keep the chemistry alive.


In case you want to fact check (source): http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/

Also, just for kicks and giggles, that super playmaker they locked up, Harvin, played for $2.5 million this season. His contract balloons to 11 and 10.5million the next two years.

 

[texbumthelife]

Oh and Cliff Avril, their best defensive lineman, played for $1.5 million this season. His contract escalates to 7 million next season, and any subsequent contracts will likely be even more than that.

 

[Wood]

Seattle is resigning Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman this offseason. They will draft responsibly. We are totally screwed with the cap and a psychopathic owner. We are light years away from the team we just saw. Light years.

Dallas will need to straighten out the front office before any meaningful changes happen on field and we might be years away from that. Seattle is how it should be - good drafting, good FA player signings, aggressive players who form a cohesive brand of football. Manning has one of the best processors between his ears in football and even he couldn't process the speed and tenacity of that defense.

 

[wileedog]

Oh and Cliff Avril, their best defensive lineman, played for $1.5 million this season. His contract escalates to 7 million next season, and any subsequent contracts will likely be even more than that.

I'm not really sure what the point is of noting Seattle's coming increase in cap woes. We are completely over the cap and looking at major restructuring and couldn't beat them if the refs made them wear blindfolds.

Yes, they will not be able to keep this talent together long. That is how the NFL is structured these days, the dynasty years are largely over. That doesn't mean they have not done in the past several years what Jerry has not managed in 20 - building a dominant, young roster.

 

[texbumthelife]

I'm not really sure what the point is of noting Seattle's coming increase in cap woes. We are completely over the cap and looking at major restructuring and couldn't beat them if the refs made them wear blindfolds.

Yes, they will not be able to keep this talent together long. That is how the NFL is structured these days, the dynasty years are largely over. That doesn't mean they have not done in the past several years what Jerry has not managed in 20 - building a dominant, young roster.

Because I said in a couple years Seattle will be just as strapped for cash as most teams, or looking to replace a substantial amount of talent, and I was told I didn't know what I was talking about. Scroll up much?

 

[wileedog]

Because I said in a couple years Seattle will be just as strapped for cash as most teams, or looking to replace a substantial amount of talent, and I was told I didn't know what I was talking about. Scroll up much?

Well, wasn't completely aimed at you, and besides they can also start doing all of the restructuring games we do. Just a manner of how much money a former owner of Microsoft wants to shell out.

Still find the conversation largely irrelevant. They are not hurting for cash or fan support out there and with the salary cap bump in 2016 they will be just fine.

 

[texbumthelife]

Well, wasn't completely aimed at you, and besides they can also start doing all of the restructuring games we do. Just a manner of how much money a former owner of Microsoft wants to shell out.

Still find the conversation largely irrelevant. They are not hurting for cash or fan support out there and with the salary cap bump in 2016 they will be just fine.

They can do exactly what we have done and if we were to do things right for a couple years, we could have this under control as well. The salary cap bump effects everyone.

And as much as people around here want to mope about, the Cowboys certainly are not hurting for fan support. We don't have the flavor of the month fans, no, but I guarantee our paying fan base still crushes the Seahawk's fan base.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Disappointing to see just how far we are from being good.

Seattle has set the bar in the NFC.

They showed their GM and owner in the booth, .. I didn't know who they were and had never seen them before. But it was obvious that they know what they are doing.

They also showed the owner on the sideline before tye game was over, I get what your saying but other owner and gm does go to the sideline. Just aint popular like the cowboys are

 

[texbumthelife]

They also showed the owner on the sideline before tye game was over, I get what your saying but other owner and gm does go to the sideline. Just aint popular like the cowboys are

Arthur Blank is actually worse about this than Jerry Jones. He is just not as terrifying to see haunting the sidelines.

 

[CrownCowboy]

I don't expect anybody to believe anything with the Dallas Cowboys.

We aren't winning anything or competing with a team like Seattle with an owner who's priority is making money over winning Super Bowls.

Our beloved Cowboys is being ran by an egotistical drunk that knows it all and it's sad.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

I might have been born at night but not last night. We are years from competing with those monsters in Seattle.

Bye then see ya !

 

[Kristen82]

Because I said in a couple years Seattle will be just as strapped for cash as most teams, or looking to replace a substantial amount of talent, and I was told I didn't know what I was talking about. Scroll up much?

But given how well SEA drafts, they'll have young guys in place who've sat and learned for a year or two who they can then just slide into the holes left by the guys SEA has allowed to leave because they've gotten too expensive.

If you find yourself needing the draft only to build depth instead of having to use it to find immediate starters with, then you're in the most idyllic place you can be for an organization.