Young outruns the field, is top offensive rookie

[Doomsday]

184/357 (51.5%)

2199 Yards (6.16 YPA)

Passing TDs - 12

Interceptions - 13

Passer Rating - 66.7

Impressive!

8-3 as the starter of a pretty mediocore team that is the only number that matters. He deserved the award.

 

[superpunk]

Can't you say that about all the QBs who have great come from behing victories underneath their belt such as John Elway, Joe Montana, Roger Staubach and etcetera?

If you have to come from behind good chance you did not take advantage of the previous 3 quarters of football or made some mistakes in them. I am sure there are exceptions, but I do not think it would be fair to single out Vince Young for his come from behind heroics.

I'm not. Please read what I wrote in it's entirety before saying that I'm singling Young out.

There are plenty of comebacks that are necessitated through no fault of your own. Romo against Washington, comes to mind.

 

[theogt]

8-3 as the starter of a pretty mediocore team that is the only number that matters. He deserved the award.

I understand that the QB gets most of the credit and most of the blame for wins and losses. That doesn't mean it's good indicator of QB play, however.

 

[gbrittain]

Carr actually played at a higher level than Young did his Rookie season. Four years from now, you may be able to insert Young into your sentence.

I suppose you dont mind justifying your comment above with Carr's actual stats for his rookie season.


Year Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Tkld 20+ 40+ Rate
2002 Houston Texans 16 16 444 233 52.5 2592 5.84 81 9 15 76/411 31 5 62.8

 

[Da Hammer]

Vince Young is a media darling. Very few people were willing to speak out against him. Merrill Hodge is the only one I can think of.

Jaws thought he wouldnt be very good but he was man enough to admit he was wrong. there was a whole lot of articles on the internet that i read before the draft calling that Vince would be a bust. Of course now you dont hear very many people criticizing him because they would look like a fool but there was so many fans and people in the media saying that he was gonna be a bust that it was laughable. People love a winner and thats why they have changed their tune and jumped on the bandwagon because they have realized Vince Young is a winner. Hodge after all the concussions he had during his playing days doesnt even know what he's talking about...

 

[aikemirv]

8-3 as the starter of a pretty mediocore team that is the only number that matters. He deserved the award.

Just like Vick, more and more teams will scheme to take away the run and make him rely on the pass. And believe me, with the athleticism of todays players more and more teams will be able to control him.

When they start doing that, he better have a passing game to fall back on or like Vick his WR's will lose faith in him and routes will not be run precisely and WR's will not expect the ball.

It is the same old story time and time again. The question is, are his passing skills good enough? We'll see I guess.

 

[gbrittain]

Jaws thought he wouldnt be very good but he was man enough to admit he was wrong. there was a whole lot of articles on the internet that i read before the draft calling that Vince would be a bust. Of course now you dont hear very many people criticizing him because they would look like a fool but there was so many fans and people in the media saying that he was gonna be a bust that it was laughable. People love a winner and thats why they have changed their tune and jumped on the bandwagon because they have realized Vince Young is a winner. Hodge after all the concussions he had during his playing days doesnt even know what he's talking about...

Not to mention people saying he should be drafted as a WR!

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm not suprised that Young won the offensive Rookie of the year and think he deserves it

 

[gbrittain]

I'm not. Please read what I wrote in it's entirety before saying that I'm singling Young out.

There are plenty of comebacks that are necessitated through no fault of your own. Romo against Washington, comes to mind.

I am quite positive that there are exceptions. In the end it is a come from behind victory. I have never seen a stat that qualifies come from behind victories.

Without having watched every game John Elway, Joe Montana, Vince Young and etcetera have played; I will not be the one to separate who had good come from behind victories versus and who did not. It would get awfully subjective.

Bottom line is he pulled the team out when he had too is all I am saying.

 

[Da Hammer]

Just like Vick, more and more teams will scheme to take away the run and make him rely on the pass. And believe me, with the athleticism of todays players more and more teams will be able to control him.

When they start doing that, he better have a passing game to fall back on or like Vick his WR's will lose faith in him and routes will not be run precisely and WR's will not expect the ball.

It is the same old story time and time again. The question is, are his passing skills good enough? We'll see I guess.

Comparing him to Vick shows you have seen very few Vince Young games because they are nothing alike. the only similaraties are that they are black and have the ability to run. Young is a QB who can run while Vick is a runner who plays QB. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

 

[Cbz40]

He's a bust.

































yea right. :laugh2:

 

[theogt]

Comparing him to Vick shows you have seen very Vince Young games because they are nothing alike. the only similaraties are that they are black and have the ability to run. Young is a QB who can run while Vick is a runner who plays QB. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

[Player's Name] is a quarterback whose abillity to read the field is questionable and would prefer to run, rather than throw the ball.

Which one am I referring to?

 

[superpunk]

I am quite positive that there are exceptions. In the end it is a come from behind victory. I have never seen a stat that qualifies come from behind victories.

Without having watched every game John Elway, Joe Montana, Vince Young and etcetera have played; I will not be the one to separate who had good come from behind victories versus and who did not. It would get awfully subjective.

Bottom line is he pulled the team out when he had too is all I am saying.

Ugh...

It has nothing to do with Montana, Elway, or Vince Young. It's a theory based on Eli Manning. It may - OR MAY NOT - apply to the wunderkind Vince Young. I do not know (which I said earlier....). But if it DOES apply - and Young's teams are losing because of his sub-par play against the non-prevent defenses he's seeing for the first 55 minutes, he's got alot of work to do, to make up for fooling us currently.

 

[Cbz40]

Bottom line: It's a simple matter of some people will never say ......I'm wrong.

 

[Da Hammer]

[Player's Name] is a quarterback whose abillity to read the field is questionable and would prefer to run, rather than throw the ball.

Which one am I referring to?

of course Mike Vick

 

[Bleu Star]

[Player's Name] is a quarterback whose abillity to read the field is questionable and would prefer to run, rather than throw the ball.

Which one am I referring to?

LOL. Too easy. Ronnie Mex. What do I win?

 

[rcaldw]

Vince Young is a media darling. Very few people were willing to speak out against him. Merrill Hodge is the only one I can think of.

And that is why Merrill Hodge is a laughing stock, just like all others will be who continue to make mindless arguments against a guy who was voted rookie of the year, not by the fans, not by his family, not by the Titans organization, not by the University of Texas, but by people who were the same people that said he couldn't do it.

 

[gbrittain]

Ugh...

It has nothing to do with Montana, Elway, or Vince Young. It's a theory based on Eli Manning. It may - OR MAY NOT - apply to the wunderkind Vince Young. I do not know (which I said earlier....). But if it DOES apply - and Young's teams are losing because of his sub-par play against the non-prevent defenses he's seeing for the first 55 minutes, he's got alot of work to do, to make up for fooling us currently.

I understand your theory. I am offering my theory: A come from behind victory is a come from behind victory. I am not into qualifying them. You clearly are (and I do not mean Vince Young's necessarily, just in general).

 

[superpunk]

of course Mike Vick

LOL. Too easy. Ronnie Mex. What do I win?

I believe the point is - at this point, the answer could be either Young or Vick. Nothing's changed for Vick in 6 years.

 

[rcaldw]

Ugh...

It has nothing to do with Montana, Elway, or Vince Young. It's a theory based on Eli Manning. It may - OR MAY NOT - apply to the wunderkind Vince Young. I do not know (which I said earlier....). But if it DOES apply - and Young's teams are losing because of his sub-par play against the non-prevent defenses he's seeing for the first 55 minutes, he's got alot of work to do, to make up for fooling us currently.

First off, if you haven't (by your own admission) watched him play, then why even offer an opinion on it?

Second, if you HAD watched him play, you would know he WASN'T the reason why they trailed in most of those games.

Third, if trailing before pulling out games negates greatness, would you PLEASE tell Cowboys nation that Roger wasn't really as good as we all thought he was, and inform the Hall of Fame too, since he has a bust there.