Your Surprise "Makes The Cut" Guy

[speedkilz88]

If he doesn't, there was little sense in wasting a draft pick on him. A project is just that, a project.

They are all projects, some more than others obviously. But once you get to the 7th round teams are throwing darts at longshots who either are great athletes but poor production or not so great athletes with good production but are doubtful to make the jump in competition.

The one guy that it was odd he dropped to the 7th was WR Kenny Lawler, who reportedly did really well in his camp. Might be a guy who had "baggage" and was off the board.

 

[Stash]

Darius Jackson makes the 53

I'm going with Jackson too.

Bye bye Dunbar. Sorry you could never stay healthy.

 

[CATCH17]

Jameil Showers... takes the #2 QB spot from Moore.

That's a interesting one.

 

[Stash]

A project for the Practice Squad.

That someone else will find a place for on their 53.

 

[Stash]

They are all projects, some more than others obviously. But once you get to the 7th round teams are throwing darts at longshots who either are great athletes but poor production or not so great athletes with good production but are doubtful to make the jump in competition.

The one guy that it was odd he dropped to the 7th was WR Kenny Lawler, who reportedly did really well in his camp. Might be a guy who had "baggage" and was off the board.

Yeah, but we drafted Gathers in the 6th. And if we didn't expect him to be a project, shame on us.

 

[Denim Chicken]

That someone else will find a place for on their 53.

Maybe. I don't really think so. The guy has zero football experience. I doubt he'll be able to contribute at all. I'm not sure how many teams can waste a valuable roster spot on a player like that. I guess we'll see.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I'm going with Jackson too.

Bye bye Dunbar. Sorry you could never stay healthy.

Yes most people say they don't understand why we drafted another RB in the 6th round. Mainly to replace Dunbar. McFadden and Morris are on 1 year contracts, I wouldn't mind another back next year. That would give us 3 young backs for the future and we can stay with the run game

Jackson will surprise people in preseason

 

[Stash]

Maybe. I don't really think so. The guy has zero football experience. I doubt he'll be able to contribute at all. I'm not sure how many teams can waste a valuable roster spot on a player like that. I guess we'll see.

No doubt we'll have to just wait and see. But if my plan was only to expose him to waivers, I wouldn't have drafted him but tried to pick him up as an undrafted free agent. Those are the guys you put on the practice squad in my opinion.

 

[Stash]

Yes most people say they don't understand why we drafted another RB in the 6th round. Mainly to replace Dunbar. McFadden and Morris are on 1 year contracts, I wouldn't mind another back next year. That would give us 3 young backs for the future and we can stay with the run game

Jackson will surprise people in preseason

It sure speaks to me that they drafted him. And I'd like to see them stop relying on proven unreliable players like Dunbar and Terrell McClain.

Again, the most important ability is availability. Can't help the club in the tub.

 

[Denim Chicken]

No doubt we'll have to just wait and see. But if my plan was only to expose him to waivers, I wouldn't have drafted him but tried to pick him up as an undrafted free agent. Those are the guys you put on the practice squad in my opinion.

Gotcha, I just thinking who's the odd man out at TE if we keep him? Unless you're thinking we go 5 TEs?

Witten, Escobar, Hanna, Swaim, Gathers

 

[speedkilz88]

Yeah, but we drafted Gathers in the 6th. And if we didn't expect him to be a project, shame on us.

The comp picks were after the regular 6th round picks so they are called 6th round picks, but they could also be considered top of the 7th round. See how that works? Had they drafted another player that player might have been out of the 7th round guys or even the udfa's.

Rico was pick 217

6 * 32 = 192
7 * 32 = 224

 

[Stash]

Gotcha, I just thinking who's the odd man out at TE if we keep him? Unless you're thinking we go 5 TEs?

Witten, Escobar, Hanna, Swaim, Gathers

I'd say Escobar at this point.

Serious injury.

Don't know when he'll return at this point or in what condition.

Last year of his contract.

A bust thus far.

I see little point in keeping him around at this point. Admit the obvious and move on.

 

[Stash]

The comp picks were after the regular 6th round picks so they are called 6th round picks, but they could also be considered top of the 7th round. See how that works?

Rico was pick 217

6 * 32 = 192
7 * 32 = 224

So you prefer to tell yourself he was a 7th rounder when everything states otherwise?

Cool story. You do that.

 

[speedkilz88]

So you prefer to tell yourself he was a 7th rounder when everything states otherwise?

Cool story. You do that.

I can't help if you are dense. That is on you. But the pool of players they were looking at would have been 7th rounders or udfa's at that point of those comp picks.

 

[speedkilz88]

Maybe you need visual aids:

6*217Dallas CowboysRico Gathers TEBaylorBig 12Did not play football at Baylor; played as a PF for Baylor basketball.
6*218Buffalo BillsKevon Seymour CBUSCPac-12
6*219Denver BroncosWill Parks SArizonaPac-12
6*220Pittsburgh SteelersTravis Feeney OLBWashingtonPac-12
6*221New England PatriotsTed Karras III GIllinoisBig Ten
7222Tennessee TitansAaron Wallace OLBUCLAPac-12
7223Miami DolphinsBrandon Doughty QBWestern KentuckyC-USAfrom Cleveland [R7 - 1]
7224San Diego ChargersDonavon Clark GMichigan StateBig Ten
7225New England PatriotsDevin Lucien WRArizona StatePac-12from Dallas via Seattle [R7 - 2]
7226Jacksonville JaguarsJonathan Woodard DECentral ArkansasSouthland
7227Minnesota VikingsStephen Weatherly OLBVanderbiltSECfrom Baltimore via Miami [R7 - 3]
7228Denver BroncosRiley Dixon PSyracuseACCfrom San Francisco [R7 - 4]
7229Pittsburgh SteelersDemarcus Ayers WRHoustonThe Americanfrom NY Giants [R7 - 5]
7230Chicago BearsDaniel Braverman WRWestern MichiganMAC
7231Miami DolphinsThomas Duarte TEUCLAPac-12
7232Washington CommandersSteven Daniels ILBBoston CollegeACCfrom Tampa Bay [R7 - 6]
7233Philadelphia EaglesJalen Mills FSLSUSEC
7234Oakland RaidersVadal Alexander GLSUSEC
7235New York JetsLac Edwards PSam Houston StateSouthlandfrom Los Angeles via Houston andDenver [R7 - 7]
7236Detroit LionsDwayne Washington RBWashingtonPac-12
7237New Orleans SaintsDaniel Lasco RBCaliforniaPac-12
7238Atlanta FalconsDevin Fuller WRUCLAPac-12
7239Indianapolis ColtsTrevor Bates LBMaineCAA
7240Philadelphia EaglesAlex McCalister DEFloridaSECfrom Buffalo via Minnesota [R7 - 8]
7241New York JetsCharone Peake WRClemsonACC
7242Washington CommandersKeith Marshall RBGeorgiaSEC
7243Seattle SeahawksKenny Lawler WRCaliforniaPac-12from Houston via New England [R7 - 9]
7244Minnesota VikingsJayron Kearse SClemsonACC
7245Cincinnati BengalsClayton Fejedelem SIllinoisBig Ten
7246Pittsburgh SteelersTyler Matakevich OLBTempleThe American
7247Seattle SeahawksZac Brooks RBClemsonACC
7248Indianapolis ColtsAustin Blythe CIowaBig Tenfrom Green Bay [R7 - 10]
7249San Francisco 49ersPrince Charles Iworah CBWestern KentuckyC-USAfrom Kansas City [R7 - 11]
7250Cleveland BrownsScooby Wright III LBArizonaPac-12from New England via Miami [R7 - 12]
7251Philadelphia EaglesJoe Walker ILBOregonPac-12from Arizona [R7 - 13]
7252Carolina PanthersBeau Sandland TEMontana StateBig Sky
7253Tennessee TitansKalan Reed CBSouthern MissC-USAfrom Denver [R7 - 14]
Mr. Irrelevant

 

[Irvin88_4life]

It sure speaks to me that they drafted him. And I'd like to see them stop relying on proven unreliable players like Dunbar and Terrell McClain.

Again, the most important ability is availability. Can't help the club in the tub.

I agree. Besides Dunbar hasn't really showed me much. If they are a great talent. ...Lee, Claiborne, Smith etc....I don't mind giving them some time to stay on the field but just like you said if they can't stay on the field they can't help us.

Too many people like players or wants to keep players that are injury prone. Time to move on from Dunbar and McClain, I'm willing to give them this training camp to prove they can get on the field. ...same thing with Claiborne. They stay healthy, great, they get hurt move on.

I'm ready to see Jackson at RB, Collins at DT and Brown at CB to replace those guys. They are hungry and willing to earn that spot

 

[Stash]

I can't help if you are dense. That is on you. But the pool of players they were looking at would have been 7th rounders or udfa's at that point of those comp picks.

If I'm "dense" , so is the rest of the entire world. Because all of us see that Gathers was drafted in the 6th round. Call it whatever the **** stupid **** you want. Everyone else will call him what he is. A 6th round draft pick of the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[Stash]

Maybe you need visual aids:

6*217Dallas CowboysRico Gathers TEBaylorBig 12Did not play football at Baylor; played as a PF for Baylor basketball.
6*218Buffalo BillsKevon Seymour CBUSCPac-12
6*219Denver BroncosWill Parks SArizonaPac-12
6*220Pittsburgh SteelersTravis Feeney OLBWashingtonPac-12
6*221New England PatriotsTed Karras III GIllinoisBig Ten
7222Tennessee TitansAaron Wallace OLBUCLAPac-12
7223Miami DolphinsBrandon Doughty QBWestern KentuckyC-USAfrom Cleveland [R7 - 1]
7224San Diego ChargersDonavon Clark GMichigan StateBig Ten
7225New England PatriotsDevin Lucien WRArizona StatePac-12from Dallas via Seattle [R7 - 2]
7226Jacksonville JaguarsJonathan Woodard DECentral ArkansasSouthland
7227Minnesota VikingsStephen Weatherly OLBVanderbiltSECfrom Baltimore via Miami [R7 - 3]
7228Denver BroncosRiley Dixon PSyracuseACCfrom San Francisco [R7 - 4]
7229Pittsburgh SteelersDemarcus Ayers WRHoustonThe Americanfrom NY Giants [R7 - 5]
7230Chicago BearsDaniel Braverman WRWestern MichiganMAC
7231Miami DolphinsThomas Duarte TEUCLAPac-12
7232Washington CommandersSteven Daniels ILBBoston CollegeACCfrom Tampa Bay [R7 - 6]
7233Philadelphia EaglesJalen Mills FSLSUSEC
7234Oakland RaidersVadal Alexander GLSUSEC
7235New York JetsLac Edwards PSam Houston StateSouthlandfrom Los Angeles via Houston andDenver [R7 - 7]
7236Detroit LionsDwayne Washington RBWashingtonPac-12
7237New Orleans SaintsDaniel Lasco RBCaliforniaPac-12
7238Atlanta FalconsDevin Fuller WRUCLAPac-12
7239Indianapolis ColtsTrevor Bates LBMaineCAA
7240Philadelphia EaglesAlex McCalister DEFloridaSECfrom Buffalo via Minnesota [R7 - 8]
7241New York JetsCharone Peake WRClemsonACC
7242Washington CommandersKeith Marshall RBGeorgiaSEC
7243Seattle SeahawksKenny Lawler WRCaliforniaPac-12from Houston via New England [R7 - 9]
7244Minnesota VikingsJayron Kearse SClemsonACC
7245Cincinnati BengalsClayton Fejedelem SIllinoisBig Ten
7246Pittsburgh SteelersTyler Matakevich OLBTempleThe American
7247Seattle SeahawksZac Brooks RBClemsonACC
7248Indianapolis ColtsAustin Blythe CIowaBig Tenfrom Green Bay [R7 - 10]
7249San Francisco 49ersPrince Charles Iworah CBWestern KentuckyC-USAfrom Kansas City [R7 - 11]
7250Cleveland BrownsScooby Wright III LBArizonaPac-12from New England via Miami [R7 - 12]
7251Philadelphia EaglesJoe Walker ILBOregonPac-12from Arizona [R7 - 13]
7252Carolina PanthersBeau Sandland TEMontana StateBig Sky
7253Tennessee TitansKalan Reed CBSouthern MissC-USAfrom Denver [R7 - 14]
Mr. Irrelevant

And maybe you can't see that big number '6' right next to his name and where it says Dallas Cowboys?

I'll help you out since you obviously need it. It's the first number on the left!

 

[DeaconMoss]

Devin Street

 

[Stash]

I agree. Besides Dunbar hasn't really showed me much. If they are a great talent. ...Lee, Claiborne, Smith etc....I don't mind giving them some time to stay on the field but just like you said if they can't stay on the field they can't help us.

I won't take it away from him, Dunbar was making some nice contributions last year. But then, the same thing happened that's always happened with him. As soon as this team used him, he got injured. It's been the same thing through each and every year of his career. He's made it through exactly one. When the team never used him.

So if it's a choice of using him and watching him get injured yet again, or not using him so he can remain healthy, I'm choosing option C, cut bait and look for a more physically reliable player capable of handling the physical demands of pro football. Dunbar isn't that guy.

Too many people like players or wants to keep players that are injury prone. Time to move on from Dunbar and McClain, I'm willing to give them this training camp to prove they can get on the field. ...same thing with Claiborne. They stay healthy, great, they get hurt move on.

I'm ready to move on. I've seen enough repeated injury, or guys like McClain getting hurt in Week Two and being lost for the season.

I'm ready to see Jackson at RB, Collins at DT and Brown at CB to replace those guys. They are hungry and willing to earn that spot

And they haven't already shown that they'll be physically unreliable either. I'm ready to move on too.