Zack Martin tops Rookie Rankings

[xwalker]

I agree with this. I was really referring to both being 4th rounders with not a lot expected of them. Bradie did well for where he was drafted even if the wasn't the greatest at his position. I think he was a Team Captain for several years and ended up with the team for 8 or 9 years total.

The big difference is that it took longer for James to make an impact. Hitchens already has 38 tackles compared to 12 for James as a rookie. James didn't have over 38 tackles until his 3rd year.

 

[LandryFan]

The big difference is that it took longer for James to make an impact. Hitchens already has 38 tackles compared to 12 for James as a rookie. James didn't have over 38 tackles until his 3rd year.

I don't recall with certainty, but it sees like James was in his third year before he had a significant impact. I believe Hitchens will play a major role next year, if not sooner...it's not out of the question that he could still play a major role this year.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Huh? The dude is pretty good.

We will see.

Pretty good yes. Larry Allen good, no.

 

[theogt]

I don't recall with certainty, but it sees like James was in his third year before he had a significant impact. I believe Hitchens will play a major role next year, if not sooner...it's not out of the question that he could still play a major role this year.

Dude he already has been playing a major role.

 

[LandryFan]

Dude he already has been playing a major role.

I would say he has had a significant impact, but I'm talking about being a regular starter. If all LBers are healthy, he likely wouldn't have had the snaps that he has gotten so far. Do both Durante and McClain return next year? Even if they do, Hitchens may emerge as a starter (over Durante). Just my opinion. I did not intend to diminish the impact he has had this year.

 

[xwalker]

I don't recall with certainty, but it sees like James was in his third year before he had a significant impact. I believe Hitchens will play a major role next year, if not sooner...it's not out of the question that he could still play a major role this year.

I would consider what he's already done a very close to being defined as a major role.

 

[xwalker]

I would say he has had a significant impact, but I'm talking about being a regular starter. If all LBers are healthy, he likely wouldn't have had the snaps that he has gotten so far. Do both Durante and McClain return next year? Even if they do, Hitchens may emerge as a starter (over Durante). Just my opinion. I did not intend to diminish the impact he has had this year.

 

[LandryFan]

I would consider what he's already done a very close to being defined as a major role.

I can't really argue against your point. His impact has been a major one, to this point. Anyways, I'm just glad we have him.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Our draft picks are looking better and better. Wish we would've had a 3rd rounder, though.

 

[DFWJC]

I don't trust any rookie ranking list from Kiper that doesn't have Anthony Hitchens on it.

Who do bump off of it? Borland?

 

[Eddie]

Our draft picks are looking better and better. Wish we would've had a 3rd rounder, though.

Unless D Lawrence turns into a super star, that lost 3rd is going to hurt.

Those two lost picks for Claiborne could have been the difference between a possible Super Bowl run this year.

 

[skinsscalper]

Hitchens kinda reminds me of the Bradie James pick (wasn't James a 4th rounder?). I don't recall James coming in with a lot of hype/expectations, but he was solid for several years. I think Hutchins can be even better.

That is a really solid comparison. I was trying to think of who Hitchens reminds me of the other day. You just nailed it. James wasn't a superstar on this team but that guy was a damned solid player.

 

[khiladi]

So you expected Jerry to listen to his offensive coordinator on personnel decisions... but now that it's Garrett's show, you think the head coach couldn't be helping with it?

You and I certainly do think differently, so this whole conversation is probably a bad idea. Great debating with you.

There is no debate. You haven't provided a shred for your assertions that Garrett was against the Claiborne move, except on how you claimed he looked, which nobody other than you reported. You made it up.

 

[AsthmaField]

There is no debate. You haven't provided a shred for your assertions that Garrett was against the Claiborne move, except on how you claimed he looked, which nobody other than you reported. You made it up.

Hello and welcome to last week.

 

[khiladi]

Hello and welcome to last week.

And Claiborne was 2012. And the process has allegedly been 8 years.

And Dallas draft philosophy, as stated, by both Stephen Jones and Jason Garrett was BPA and Claiborne was a BPA. They paid a lot of money for Carr that same year. Going Claiborne was not a Jerry Jones 'spur-of-the-moment' going against Garrett's desire per the evidence.

 

[EST_1986]

That sounds like Rookie of the year....Pro-bowl....All-Pro level stats....of course that won't happen though, him being a rookie OG and all

He's top OG in Pro Bowl votes

 

[DallasInDC]

He's top OG in Pro Bowl votes

Cool, I would love to be proven wrong.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Couple of you need to move on or take it to PMs.

 

[8FOR!3]

This list has Mel Kiper written all over it. Great that Zack Martin is appreciated but it's not a very good list. Sammy Watkins is too low.

 

[VACowboy]

And Garrett was here for years prior, with all the related bungled decisions. And Jerry allowed him call plays and run the offense, which is what he wanted. So why should we toss aside years of evidence to fit some story that has no basis? Garrett got the OL he wanted in Houck and was using a power-blocking scheme. Did Jerry force that on him? I mean this story as some grand plan is just absurd. And it gets more absurd when people make up stories that have no basis. It's no surprise that even Garrett was riffiing with Callahan last year, the man who built this OL. But I guess it's Garrett's OL, his running schemes, and so on...

Jerry didn't let Callahan go to interview for an OC position for a reason, even after all this..

Callahan coached the OL, and I'm sure he shared his opinions on draft day, but Jerry and Jason assembled the players. Coaching is certainly a huge part of developing any unit in football, but the idea that Callahan alone is responsible for building the Dallas OL seems selectively shortsighted to me.

I don't know why it's impossible for some folks to believe that Garrett espoused a deliberate plan for rebuilding not just today, but the future of the Dallas Cowboys, and basing it all on a BPA draft philosophy, a great OL and a power running game. You can't rebuild a team this way in a year or two. It takes a little time because you go into the draft to find great players instead of filling positions. But when you start getting results you start winning with a young core of players and the future looks good.

I love the way the powers that be have brought this team together, without a bunch of big money FA's and letting the draft come to them. (Exception being Claiborne. I hate trading up.) I'm sure a lot of people chalk it all up to luck, or credit the position coaches for building the team, or anything but crediting the GM or the coach. But Garrett said from the beginning that this was the type of team he wanted and I don't think it's a coincidence that, four years in, that's the type of team we've got.