Zeke exposes woman's breasts **merged**

[superjoe]

On the surface, I agree but I don't believe that in this case, any of those things apply. He did it in front of cameras and the NFL, IMO, is going to be forced to act. They almost have no choice on this. This drip will slowly become a torrent of rushing water if they don't, IMO.

Forced to act? By what standard of the definition of "Forced"?
He isn't "guilty" of anything regardless of what the internets lawyers opinions are, they are opinions...or did I miss the part where Zeke has been charged or accused by an authority?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Sometimes esp online people like to be literal about things to be bad words that otherwise they can decipher what is being said. Other times it can be a misunderstanding like what seems to be the case here. That's why it still comes up. I already said that I might have had blame in it the misunderstanding.edit I'll take full blame because honestly your not my friend and I get used to doing that online.

What the heck are you talkIng about regarding religion? I didn't bring religion up as part of the discussion but only to say if people have a religious view of hero worship as some do I'm not going to talk about it cause that view isn't changing at all. If you don't understand please ask and I'll explain but don't tell me about rules unless your saying you can't even type the word. If that's the case cool my bad otherwise that wasn't even the point of mentioning the word.

I asked you what is hero worship to you so I can better see where we disagree at as far as things you considered such and you didn't answer so what am I to assume?

Religious discussion, of any kind, is against the rules. I pointed that out, so as to make certain you understand that it's not acceptable discussion. That is what I am talking about. so, in context to the discussion, even though religious discussion is clearly pointed out, unequivocally, you seem to still misunderstand. Is it really that hard to see how things can be misunderstood, especially when not spelled out clearly, as you have said you did not feel the need to do?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Why dang? Your experiences and mine are different just as your morality and mine. What you may fine entertaining and fun may be the things I find troubling.

Why dang? Your experiences and mine are different just as your morality and mine. What you may fine entertaining and fun may be the things I find troubling.

#746 should haver given you a clue ... Oh, so slight, about sarcasm or scorn toward a knucklehead like Zeke.
But you just have to put yourself up on a pedestal, next to the Ruebenesque nude, to let is know how all high and mighty and moral you are.
Next time you watch a linebacker crash into a human being, perhaps breaking a rib or a back or femur, feel your morality, brutha. Feel that specialness that is you.

 

[waldoputty]

Forced to act? By what standard of the definition of "Forced"?
He isn't "guilty" of anything regardless of what the internets lawyers opinions are, they are opinions...or did I miss the part where Zeke has been charged or accused by an authority?

1st you have the letter of the law.
2nd you have conduct to the detriment of the league.
there is plenty of ways to spend.
this was right in front of the camera
on purpose too.
just plain stupid.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Forced to act? By what standard of the definition of "Forced"?
He isn't "guilty" of anything regardless of what the internets lawyers opinions are, they are opinions...or did I miss the part where Zeke has been charged or accused by an authority?

In this situation, it can take a few different forms. It can be legal or it can be public opinion or it can be in reference to economic impact. Any or all could play a role in this situation, IMO.

I would also not claim that he is or is not guilty of anything. I think it is certainly possible that he could be guilty of an offense, should the lady decide to bring case. That's probably a different discussion but again, as has been mentioned in several different instances in this thread, there are clauses that give the commissioner a great deal of latitude in situations like this. It does not have to be illegal for the Commissioner to take action. You may say, he should not be able to do that but that is of no consequence. He can so no amount of discussion will change that.

 

[aria]

Sounds good troll.

Its a job youre getting paid money for so it's not the same thing as your concern on this issue but you've constantly compared apples and oranges so no surprise here. TBH even your profession is one that those with savior complexes are frequently in. Also not even being funny but constant concern of others more than themselves and thinking saving them is the right thing to do is a sign of savior complex. Don't believe me look it up you will articles that speak on it.

I do think me and you can agree to disagree though? I think we can have that in common.

We can agree to disagree but I promise you money had no bearing on my career choice and I strongly disagree with your "savior complex". I enjoy helping people, on the job, off the job it doesn't matter. There are plenty of other professions that are centered around helping people in need and not every person has a "complex". Teachers, nurses, psychologists, the list goes on and on.

I'm sorry you don't feel the same way and I'm glad you're not a friend or family member. I can only imagine how beneficial your lack of support and caring must be for someone in need.

As you said, we agree to disagree.

 

[Philmonroe]

I don't really view it as blame. It is a difference of opinion, that is all.

I did not see where you asked me what hero worship is. My apologies, perhaps you can't point me to it.

Hero Worship, in effect, is idolization, adoration, admiration, taken to an excess. It often blinds a person to certain obvious facts, allowing a person or people to overlook flaws.

Honeslty I've posted a lot of post in this thread so I don't feel like looking for it but just know I didn't make it up.

As for your example yeah we just don't agree. I see all these things but the levels of seeing them we definitely disagree on that.

Religious discussion, of any kind, is against the rules. I pointed that out, so as to make certain you understand that it's not acceptable discussion. That is what I am talking about. so, in context to the discussion, even though religious discussion is clearly pointed out, unequivocally, you seem to still misunderstand. Is it really that hard to see how things can be misunderstood, especially when not spelled out clearly, as you have said you did not feel the need to do?

My point is it wasn't a discussion from the beginning. I don't even discuss it with others and was just saying so. Unless saying you dont discuss people's religion and views is against the rules I misunderstood nothing. Nothing is hard at all on this note at all. I'm making it clear I don't discuss others religious views. If just saying that is against the rules ok my bad otherwise I don't know what we are going back and forth about this for.

 

[gmoney112]

We can agree to disagree but I promise you money had no bearing on my career choice and I strongly disagree with your "savior complex". I enjoy helping people, on the job, off the job it doesn't matter. There are plenty of other professions that are centered around helping people in need and not every person has a "complex". Teachers, nurses, psychologists, the list goes on and on.

I'm sorry you don't feel the same way and I'm glad you're not a friend or family member. I can only imagine how beneficial your lack of support and caring must be for someone in need.

As you said, we agree to disagree.

I believe they mean a Messiah complex anyway. Yes it's usually present in egomaniacs.

But, it's a sad day in this country when helping others is considered a "complex" and not intuition.

 

[Cowboys_22]

It is what it is...can't undo it, if a suspension follows, I hope Morris and McFadden can carry the load

 

[superjoe]

1st you have the letter of the law.
2nd you have conduct to the detriment of the league.
there is plenty of ways to spend.
this was right in front of the camera
on purpose too.
just plain stupid.

No one has indoctrinated Zeke a genius for his actions, but MY point is...He is not guilty of anything because...

A. She has stated as such.
B. No branch of legal justice has stated otherwise.

So why should a generalization lead to his discipline?
If a picture of a man drinking leads to a rumor he is an alcoholic at his office, and he gets suspended from that pictures rumor, that person has grounds to sue his employer.

I don't see the point in Goodel imposing himself in what is quite literally the personal intimate/gratification of two adults and the possible relationship there-in.

Do you know her state of mind, have you been told by her his advance, however crude was unwanted?

So by fact until proven different all you have is two people on video having fun and being risqué, maybe it leads to a relationship, maybe it doesn't, why would an employer step onto that land mine?

"No comment" Is the right answer by the league.

That's that.

 

[waldoputty]

No one has indoctrinated Zeke a genius for his actions, but MY point is...He is not guilty of anything because...

A. She has stated as such.
B. No branch of legal justice has stated otherwise.

So why should a generalization lead to his discipline?
If a picture of a man drinking leads to a rumor he is an alcoholic at his office, and he gets suspended from that pictures rumor, that person has grounds to sue his employer.

I don't see the point in Goodel imposing himself in what is quite literally the personal intimate/gratification of two adults and the possible relationship there-in.

Do you know her state of mind, have you been told by her his advance, however crude was unwanted?

So by fact until proven different all you have is two people on video having fun and being risqué, maybe it leads to a relationship, maybe it doesn't, why would an employer step onto that land mine?

"No comment" Is the right answer by the league.

That's that.

how is it relevant whether he is right or wrong.
this video is in the public
there are groups asking for suspension that are incentivized to get free press out of zeke's idiotic behavior.

the league always says no comment when they have not even looked at it.
there is a very good chance for a suspension.

 

[Philmonroe]

We can agree to disagree but I promise you money had no bearing on my career choice and I strongly disagree with your "savior complex". I enjoy helping people, on the job, off the job it doesn't matter. There are plenty of other professions that are centered around helping people in need and not every person has a "complex". Teachers, nurses, psychologists, the list goes on and on.

I'm sorry you don't feel the same way and I'm glad you're not a friend or family member. I can only imagine how beneficial your lack of support and caring must be for someone in need.

As you said, we agree to disagree.

I didn't say money did have bearing on what you did or if you thought that my apologies. I just said it's not the same imo as doing it for free or something. Of course we would disagree about the complex just like you may feel I have an inferiority complex and I disagree. It's life. Of course not everybody has a complex that is obvious but I'm not talking about everybody I'm talking about you.

I'm not sorry I feel different that's what makes life worth living most of the time. Just saying I don't care about someone more than themselves doesn't mean I don't care about people at all. Again my friend don't make me out to be something I'm not because we disagree. I care about people a lot and those who know me irl not people on messagebaords agree. I'm certain it is the same for you also and those who really know you.

At least we found one thing in common with are agreeing to disagree. Have a great day my friend.

 

[Philmonroe]

I believe they mean a Messiah complex anyway. Yes it's usually present in egomaniacs.

But, it's a sad day in this country when helping others is considered a "complex" and not intuition.

Just like the person you quoted it's "intuition" to a point and usually involves people you actually know not strangers. Savior/messiah complex basically the same thing FYI.

 

[Ultra Warrior]

You have to make better decisions. This team has gotten more than it's fair share of bad press over the years & this doesn't help matters. 1 season in & you've already put a bad light on the team twice. Smarten up.

 

[superjoe]

how is it relevant whether he is right or wrong.
this video is in the public
there are groups asking for suspension that are incentivized to get free press out of zeke's idiotic behavior.

the league always says no comment when they have not even looked at it.
there is a very good chance for a suspension.

If the topic changed to Will he get Suspended, my odds are 20-80 against him getting suspended (if I even defined that right). I think The DV investigation would have to show something else to warrant a suspension and carry more weight in addition to anything else heaped in from here on out. Just the simple actions of other players like Gronk makes it so you cant pick and choose who to discipline without fairness. Like I said, bonehead move especially when your already on the radar, but innocent.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

1st you have the letter of the law.
2nd you have conduct to the detriment of the league.
there is plenty of ways to spend.
this was right in front of the camera
on purpose too.
just plain stupid.

The league is going to have to start suspending half the players in the league after they attend gentlemen's clubs.

The woman was willing it's time for the baord puritans to move on.

 

[gmoney112]

Just like the person you quoted it's "intuition" to a point and usually involves people you actually know not strangers. Savior/messiah complex basically the same thing FYI.

I help strangers all the time. In the south we call those "manners". If you don't, you're just a jerk.

My point still stands.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Just like the person you quoted it's "intuition" to a point and usually involves people you actually know not strangers. Savior/messiah complex basically the same thing FYI.

No they are not. Saving strangers is not a sign of mental illness. A messiah complex implies you think you are the chosen one almost always by some godhead.

They are not remotely the same thing.

 

[DallasEast]

If a guy has to expose a woman's boob in broad daylight in a parade...to have fun... He's not very talented at having fun. And he's the boob.

This thread is, hands down, a sociological, psychological, anthropological goldmine.

 

[Joe Realist]

4 game suspension, coming soon to a season near you!