Twitter: Zeke lawyers file for stay on suspension

[khiladi]

I think some guys within NFLPA were paid off under the table to accept that CBA...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

What money is he throwing away? Isn't the NFLPA footing the bill?

Even so, wouldn't you have to equate "loss revenue (lifetime endorsements) vs legal fees". I would guess the endorsements out weigh the legal fees.

I would not make that assumption. First of all, it's done in the Federal Courts. As was mentioned previously, he would have to pursue this further with a Civil Court Case. I am uncertain if the NFLPA would pay for that. I suspect they would not but under no circumstances would I assume that they would. I think the endorsements are going to do what they do because unless something radical changes, Zeke is going to begin serving his 6 games here very soon. A Civil case is going to take awhile and by that time, the damage is either done or not.

He fought the good fight. He would be best served, in all phases IMO, to simply accept the situation, learn from it and move on. The longer his focus is on this, the worse it is for him. He has a limited amount of time to be great on the Field. If he is truly great, all of this gets swept under the rug and it's like it never happened. I've seen it over and over again. However, if he lets this continue to live, continue to breath, if his focus is on this and he is not the same player, this becomes the story for the rest of his life. The whole "What could have been" story becomes the written word on his career. He will never win completely because he's already lost on this first trial, after appeal. Think back to Hardy, he was never convicted and yet, he is guilty in the eyes of the public. How much are people really going to care, even if he wins in a Civil Court? It gets mentioned for a couple days and then it's gone.

To me, the only way he gains redemption is if he gains greatness on the field. JMO

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think some guys within NFLPA were paid off under the table to accept that CBA...

The players made this Vote, not the NFLPA. But yeah, there were payoffs. It's just that those payoffs were to the players, in the way of more shared revenue spent towards player salaries. In exchange for that, they gave up authority to the NFL.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Eh just accept it zeke.

Smarten up

No, continue to drag the NFL's reputation through the mud. Look, even that crappy Pizza place is now trashing the NFL front office.

 

[Jarv]

I would not make that assumption. First of all, it's done in the Federal Courts. As was mentioned previously, he would have to pursue this further with a Civil Court Case. I am uncertain if the NFLPA would pay for that. I suspect they would not but under no circumstances would I assume that they would. I think the endorsements are going to do what they do because unless something radical changes, Zeke is going to begin serving his 6 games here very soon. A Civil case is going to take awhile and by that time, the damage is either done or not.

He fought the good fight. He would be best served, in all phases IMO, to simply accept the situation, learn from it and move on. The longer his focus is on this, the worse it is for him. He has a limited amount of time to be great on the Field. If he is truly great, all of this gets swept under the rug and it's like it never happened. I've seen it over and over again. However, if he lets this continue to live, continue to breath, if his focus is on this and he is not the same player, this becomes the story for the rest of his life. The whole "What could have been" story becomes the written word on his career. He will never win completely because he's already lost on this first trial, after appeal. Think back to Hardy, he was never convicted and yet, he is guilty in the eyes of the public. How much are people really going to care, even if he wins in a Civil Court? It gets mentioned for a couple days and then it's gone.

To me, the only way he gains redemption is if he gains greatness on the field. JMO

Respectively disagree 100%. Plus, I would not sit back and let some pieces of crap in NY railroad me and tarnish my name.

If it was you, you would just give up and basically plead guilty to such a horrendous charge that smears your name? Something you, your family and possible children would have to carry on forever? I have a hard time believing that just from the quality and voracity of how you debate on this site.

But hey, maybe you would just roll over, I mean I really don't know you that well.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I think some guys within NFLPA were paid off under the table to accept that CBA...

It is totally a rat union. It is the weakest union in pro sports.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Respectively disagree 100%. Plus, I would not sit back and let some pieces of crap in NY railroad me and tarnish my name.

If it was you, you would just give up and basically plead guilty to such a horrendous charge that smears your name? Something you, your family and possible children would have to carry on forever? I have a hard time believing that just from the quality and voracity of how you debate on this site.

But hey, maybe you would just roll over, I mean I really don't know you that well.

It is really easy for people not being branded a domestic abuser to say, just take your punishment.

 

[Jarv]

It is really easy for people not being branded a domestic abuser to say, just take your punishment.

Hey, maybe ABQ would just take his punishment, it might be easier for him to take it instead of fight. Not everybody reacts the same to these types of situations.

I know if I were innocent and being railroaded, they'd get both barrels back and then some.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

Of course, the entiit. e court confirmation of the arbitral decision thing that allows the employer to control the venue is sanctioned by federal labor law. Thank Congress for that one.

That law needs to be changed. What can we do as Americans to get it changed?

 

[CT Dal Fan]

It is really easy for people not being branded a domestic abuser to say, just take your punishment.

While you speak the truth, non-Cowboys fans have already made their minds up about Zeke and feel he is an abuser; no matter what.

Sadly, this is the world in which we live.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Hey, maybe ABQ would just take his punishment, it might be easier for him to take it instead of fight. Not everybody reacts the same to these types of situations.

I know if I were innocent and being railroaded, they'd get both barrels back and then some.

The easiest way is to get someone to accuse him of sexual harassment or child abuse. Guaranteed he would fight it to the death

 

[DFWJC]

I started last night......

 

[DFWJC]

Ha!! Innocent. Interesting word!! Everybody is guilty of something.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Respectively disagree 100%. Plus, I would not sit back and let some pieces of crap in NY railroad me and tarnish my name.

If it was you, you would just give up and basically plead guilty to such a horrendous charge that smears your name? Something you, your family and possible children would have to carry on forever? I have a hard time believing that just from the quality and voracity of how you debate on this site.

But hey, maybe you would just roll over, I mean I really don't know you that well.

Respectfully, I disagree 100%. I do not believe that Elliot is 100% innocent of everything. I believe that in a court of law, there is not enough to get a conviction, that I believe, but that's not the same as being
totally innocent.

If it was me, I would have never been involved with that girl in the first place so what you know about me, from my posting history and you can kinda see how I arrive at my points of view. This idea that Elliott would be giving up is inaccurate IMO. He has done all he can and honestly, he never had a chance of winning this thing in a Federal Court, so far as I can tell. At this point, it's a question of what is more important to him. Is Football more important or is this court battle?

So maybe I would just roll over. Or maybe I would stupidly bang my head against the wall until I knocked myself unconscious, and then, I would get up and do it all over again, rinse and repeat. I mean, since we are obviously taking the most extreme points of view here right?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It is really easy for people not being branded a domestic abuser to say, just take your punishment.

Almost as easy as it is for message board posters to understand what it's costing Zeke, or could cost Zeke, in terms of money and career.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

While you speak the truth, non-Cowboys fans have already made their minds up about Zeke and feel he is an abuser; no matter what.

Sadly, this is the world in which we live.

Exactly. The only ones who really care about the guy are Cowboy fans. Everybody else, they are happy to see the 6 game suspension and those who shout about it, those in the press, they are just using him to get a story and clicks. They don't care about this kid. JMO

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Hey, maybe ABQ would just take his punishment, it might be easier for him to take it instead of fight. Not everybody reacts the same to these types of situations.

I know if I were innocent and being railroaded, they'd get both barrels back and then some.

Innocent in terms of what? Court of law, well, I've already said that he would not be found guilty there but this is not Rule of Law. I mean good lord, how many times does it have to be said? There is nothing he can do about it. Period, end of subject. He can continue to throw money at it but for him, it's done. He can file a Civil Lawsuit, but that's expensive and the League has deep pockets. If he does that, there is no guarantee he will win and, even if he does, it's going to be a long, long time from now. This will stay in the courts, stay a distraction and be a general headache for the guy, long after the suspension ends.

So you guys tell me, who's going to change their mind on him? The Cowboy fans who don't believe he did anything, well you can't tell them anything that would change their minds anyway. The fans from all 31 teams, not named Cowboys? They already believe that Jerry runs the NFL and that he buys and sells favors. They aren't going to change their minds either. Is it Zeke who is going to change his mind? I doubt it. He already knows what the truth is.

At this point, it is what it is.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

That law needs to be changed. What can we do as Americans to get it changed?

The law is really not to blame here. There is a contract and terms of the contract stipulate what each side agreed to. The only ones who can really make changes, in terms of how this played out, are the Players and the Owners. The Law really had very little to do with this.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Almost as easy as it is for message board posters to understand what it's costing Zeke, or could cost Zeke, in terms of money and career.

being branded without due process is the problem, it is costing him because the league is being ridiculous.

Look I get it that you come from a religious social conservative bent and likely would never do 1/10 of the stuff Zeke did, but you cannot judge Zeke by your moral standards. He did nothing wrong in the situation, the NFL's own investigator said that they should not suspend him, the police did not even charge him, the skank asked her friends to lie, she threatened him etc.

No normal individual doesn't fight that crap. He probably will lose because the US justice system is in collusion with Roger the Good. There is no way the wife of the lawyer who helped draft the CBA should be allowed to hear the case, especially when she is likely a Giants' fan. Yet the NFL is fighting this case to the death because they want to grind Zeke, screw the Cowboys, and appear to be fighting spousal violence.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

The law is really not to blame here. There is a contract and terms of the contract stipulate what each side agreed to. The only ones who can really make changes, in terms of how this played out, are the Players and the Owners. The Law really had very little to do with this.

I just don't see how any reasonable interpretation of the CBA could say that even when there are no charges, the league can say, you did it, and brand you an abuser.