Twitter: Zeke lawyers file for stay on suspension

[Ghost12]

being branded without due process is the problem, it is costing him because the league is being ridiculous.

Look I get it that you come from a religious social conservative bent and likely would never do 1/10 of the stuff Zeke did, but you cannot judge Zeke by your moral standards. He did nothing wrong in the situation, the NFL's own investigator said that they should not suspend him, the police did not even charge him, the skank asked her friends to lie, she threatened him etc.

No normal individual doesn't fight that crap. He probably will lose because the US justice system is in collusion with Roger the Good. There is no way the wife of the lawyer who helped draft the CBA should be allowed to hear the case, especially when she is likely a Giants' fan. Yet the NFL is fighting this case to the death because they want to grind Zeke, screw the Cowboys, and appear to be fighting spousal violence.

While I agree this particular judge should have recused herself, I don't exactly think the US Justice System is in the NFL's pocket.

 

[superonyx]

While I agree this particular judge should have recused herself, I don't exactly think the US Justice System is in the NFL's pocket.

Maybe not specifically the NFL’s pocket but corporations as a whole have our legal system under control all the way to the Supreme Court.

 

[Ranching]

My dream jobs are

• Third world country judge
• Warlord that cooperates with the CIA
• International arms dealer
• NFL commissioner

My other dream job is to be the guy that fires Garrett! Lol, that deserves a drink, Salud!

 

[Beast_from_East]

One reason Zeke might still be fighting this guys is his contract...............if he is suspended, his guaranteed money is forfeited for the entire life of the contract. So if Zeke gets injured, the Boyz can release him and not have to pay him a dime.

Good for the team, not so good for Zeke.

 

[SlammedZero]

I swear, if I saw Roger Goodell walking down the street, I would want to roundhouse him.

 

[Thomas82]

I swear, if I saw Roger Goodell walking down the street, I would want to roundhouse him.

That makes 2 of us.

 

[phildadon86]

I swear, if I saw Roger Goodell walking down the street, I would want to roundhouse him.

Roundhouse? That’s getting off easy, I’d throat rip him like Dalton in road house

 

[Mountaineerfan]

Roundhouse? That’s getting off easy, I’d throat rip him like Dalton in road house

Wade Garrett: A man puts a gun in yer face, you got two choices - stand there 'n die or kill the ______!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

being branded without due process is the problem, it is costing him because the league is being ridiculous.

Look I get it that you come from a religious social conservative bent and likely would never do 1/10 of the stuff Zeke did, but you cannot judge Zeke by your moral standards. He did nothing wrong in the situation, the NFL's own investigator said that they should not suspend him, the police did not even charge him, the skank asked her friends to lie, she threatened him etc.

No normal individual doesn't fight that crap. He probably will lose because the US justice system is in collusion with Roger the Good. There is no way the wife of the lawyer who helped draft the CBA should be allowed to hear the case, especially when she is likely a Giants' fan. Yet the NFL is fighting this case to the death because they want to grind Zeke, screw the Cowboys, and appear to be fighting spousal violence.

This is all well and good but I didn't do this to the NFL. The players did this to themselves for money. You can yell at the moon till cows come home but it's not going to change a thing. It's done.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I just don't see how any reasonable interpretation of the CBA could say that even when there are no charges, the league can say, you did it, and brand you an abuser.

Well, I can't help you here. This is not about interpretation. This is about what the players agreed to, in black and white.

 

[Nightman]

Well, I can't help you here. This is not about interpretation. This is about what the players agreed to, in black and white.

The NFLPA did not agree to the new, expanded DV Policy...... they merely had an Owners vote

Goodell claimed authority through the powers in the CBA........ the Players did protest but lost

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The NFLPA did not agree to the new, expanded DV Policy...... they merely had an Owners vote

Goodell claimed authority through the powers in the CBA........ the Players did protest but lost

But the CBA terms, which they agreed to, allowed for this. Correct?

 

[Nightman]

But the CBA terms, which they agreed to, allowed for this. Correct?

That is a stretch.......... it gives Goodell a lot of power but not unlimited....... they did protest the new DV policy but I'm not sure if it ever got to Court

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

That is a stretch.......... it gives Goodell a lot of power but not unlimited....... they did protest the new DV policy but I'm not sure if it ever got to Court

How do you see this as a stretch? The whole reason there was an appeal process ruling was to review this kind of thing. A ruling was made and the NFLPA and Elliott lost. Now, that process was a legal ruling so according to the Law, it is not a stretch. Would you say that this is an accurate statement?

 

[nathanlt]

Why can't the CBA, (when it is rewritten) state that the commissioner and the NFLPA must muutally agree on a punishment that benefits the PR interests of both organizations?

The NFLPA isn't going to let a player's criminal actions put a mark on the other players who act respectably. The commissioner then has a check and balance from the players perspective to let him know when he's acting 100% PC, ignoring facts of the case before him. The interests of all should be reflected in every punishment delivered. The commissioner is not acting in the best interests of the owners right now. All the NFL looks stupid for a number of reasons, bizarre punishments is just one example.

 

[Nightman]

How do you see this as a stretch? The whole reason there was an appeal process ruling was to review this kind of thing. A ruling was made and the NFLPA and Elliott lost. Now, that process was a legal ruling so according to the Law, it is not a stretch. Would you say that this is an accurate statement?

The League unilaterally re-wrote the PCP to include the new DV section that included changing the language about even being charged with a crime, increased the punishments and added a banishment clause........ those things should all be Collectively Bargained with a CBA in place

Pushing it through on an Owner's vote only was a stretch of their authority

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The League unilaterally re-wrote the PCP to include the new DV section that included changing the language about even being charged with a crime, increased the punishments and added a banishment clause........ those things should all be Collectively Bargained with a CBA in place

Pushing it through on an Owner's vote only was a stretch of their authority

The appeals process that just happened, in the Elliott case, was a review of this entire process. The decision reached in the original ruling was not in question. The only thing that could be in question was the process and the language. The appeals ruling basically confirms legality of that. If there were areas, in which the original verdict were in question, the appeals process would have identified those and the appeal would have been granted.

This thing is done.

 

[Nightman]

The appeals process that just happened, in the Elliott case, was a review of this entire process. The decision reached in the original ruling was not in question. The only thing that could be in question was the process and the language. The appeals ruling basically confirms legality of that. If there were areas, in which the original verdict were in question, the appeals process would have identified those and the appeal would have been granted.

This thing is done.

I think you have changed the argument

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think you have changed the argument

Why would you say that?

 

[Plumfool]

Good read.