News: Zeke Won't Return without Deal

Stash

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In the words of Randy Galloway, "watch the dang games". Stats on paper mean zero without context. McFadden put up so many empty stats. This offense was junk in 2015. Could not sustain drives. We were terrible at short yardage. 1,000 yards in a NFL season is a little over 60 a game. Which is 15 a quarter. Nothing to really brag about.

You need to look harder at that actual 2015 season. And see how the team wasted the first 6 games of the season on that waste of air Joseph Randle and McFadden hardly touched the ball before then. It kind of screws up your fuzzy math.

This offense we have designed does not work with a RB by committee. Design a new offense if you want that.

What exactly needs to be changed for a running back by committee?

And since the current design has won nothing, maybe it should change?
 

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Because it doesn't benefit your rooting interests while you sit on your couch? This is their lives. NFL players in general have short careers, especially RB. I have zero issue with a player wanting his true value. Owners cut players whenever they want. They force them to take less money. And people like you say stuff like "that is just business". Well this is business, too.


Please don't tell me what "people like me" say, when you can barely interpret things I actually said. My issue is the specific and contextual issue of Zeke's hold-out and all of the particulars associated. Players get hosed. Running backs in-particular get hosed. I can understand that, and agree with it, AND believe that this is a sad situation.
 

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There's no reward without risk. If Dallas starts out struggling on offense, Jerry will break out the checkbook. Especially if they aren't winning games.

Don't they always start out struggling on offense? They'll miss his 6 TDs
 

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I wonder if the holdup over Zeke is over guarantees, what voids them and the payout structure of said guarantees?

Bingo!!!! I honestly believe this now the issue. Hell Stephen damn near told the public what the numbers would be per year with the Gurley thing. What we don't know is how the offer is structured. For example, what good is top 5 money if only 60/70% of Gurley's guaranteed money is offered. I'm not saying this is the case but that we just don't know.
 

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Good for Zeke. He should get his money while he can.
He gets a career ending injury this season his career payout will be 34 million dollars while only having to play 2 full NFL seasons.........

Just because he's not #1 at his position salary wise doesn't mean he isn't getting a good top 5 contract.
 

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Could always trade a starting DB for a starting RB. They have some extra talent at DB.
 

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There's no reward without risk. If Dallas starts out struggling on offense, Jerry will break out the checkbook. Especially if they aren't winning games.

Would rather that happen than to set a precedence created by this situation?

Even if Zeke were a choir boy, perfect attendance, clean nose, doing all the right things,, bottom line is an early contractual restructure, with 2 years remaining,,, something to consider, I bet it would have already been done,, all of his team mates would know in that scenario and understand how important Zeke was and is to this franchise, and the early restructure would not effect this franchise.

That is not the case however, Zeke has not proven to be risk free.

Zeke and his agent are playing the leverage game at a very volatile high level that could have negative results pending for both parties, this Cowboys franchise and team Zeke.
There is a time and place where you have to draw a line in the sand, and I hope The Dallas Cowboys are willing to draw that line... a precedent has to be set in order to protect
the stability of this franchise in dealing with all future contracts.
 

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I just find it comical that people are acting like Zeke is doing something out of the ordinary in the context of the Cowboys FO.

The Cowboys FO has already stated for a couple years this is how they are going to work from now on. They will try and extend players that are talented before FA even comes around, so they can get them at good value. Stephen has already said they don’t have any plans to pay top dollar in free agency anymore and attributes their past failures as a result of moves that involve them. Basically, he’s masking their being cheap in football terms. He also ignores the elephant in the room of failures bring related to Jason Garrett and the “on-the-job training”.

Dallas wants to negotiate early and wants to negotiate early with Zeke, per their own words. Zeke is playing THEIR game as well. The ‘choir boy’ excuse is a crock of garbage. First of all, Jerry’s support of Zeke was a result of Zeke’s talent. Second, Zeke was suspended based on college life in reality and if it were Kraft or Mara, Zeke would have never been suspended anyways.
 

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If they can’t beat theGiants, Skins, and Dolphins, they’re frauds anyway. That tells me that none of it is worth investing in.

And shame on them if they don’t have a plan by then.

I bet you the Commanders give us the gears without Zeke and although are going with a rookie at QB have a much better defense then what people see.
 

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I bet you the Commanders give us the gears without Zeke and although are going with a rookie at QB have a much better defense then what people see.

Then again, I'd say we're a sham and a non-contender of a team.

But as I've stated numerous times, I sure as heck wouldn't be trotting Alfred Morris out there as my top option!
:laugh:
 

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There's no reward without risk. If Dallas starts out struggling on offense, Jerry will break out the checkbook. Especially if they aren't winning games.

I honestly don't see this. I think he did this once and he learned his lesson. This is no longer the NFL where cap doesn't matter. I think the team is willing to give Zeke a decent contract but I don't think Jerry is going to pay him 60. That's just a guess on my part, I don't know that anybody really knows the situation.
 
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