It's about having a conscience

[Blackrain]

Nice read, however, this...

What are your thoughts, screwed it all up. I'm sick of reading that day after day, post after post.

You're 100% right what I would have liked to have written would have been how can we fix this and get our team back but I know it's impossible.

 

[DeaconMoss]

"Change this franchise" to me is getting past the div round of the playoffs. Could Coach Prime do that under Jerry's micromanagement of the Dallas head coach? No, nor can any other head coach.

But, I would have liked to see Coach Prime give it a shot!

Yes he could. Bc he won't take no and will will not take less

 

[DeaconMoss]

"Change this franchise" to me is getting past the div round of the playoffs. Could Coach Prime do that under Jerry's micromanagement of the Dallas head coach? No, nor can any other head coach.

But, I would have liked to see Coach Prime give it a shot!

Prime was the only OOTB candidate that would have been able to change the culture. Didn't happen. We done. Dak Sux. Jj sux. Schitty sux. Buckle your belt.

 

[Blackrain]

Yes he could. Bc he won't take no and will will not take less

Coach prime could definitely change the culture here and develop a following that would steal all of Jerry's thunder.

Coach prime is a personality far more vibrant than Jerry's he would have taken the spotlight completely off of Jerry and this scared Jerry to death.

No way Jerry is hiring a coach with the following or star power of Coach prime or Belichick.

He wants a mild meek Yes Man to provide him the comfort to be the star of his show

 

[Creeper]

Bold> This pretty much sums up several points.

• The premise, Jones will change his mind based on loss of ticket and merchandise sales, has never been a strong one. A large decrease and sustained (e.g. years), overall home ticket sales must first happen. Other NFL team franchises operate with significantly lower ticket-to-revenue models below the Dallas Cowboys. None of Jones' peers are buckling under such conditions. It is extremely unlikely Jones will react any differently unless home game after home game ends up with the stadium being (in my opinion) 50% or less full.
• (Red bold) Exactly and that is the central problem.
• Questioning Jones is a key alternative. It does bother him. There is a zero guarantee how he may possibly react with being constantly interrogated about his general manager qualifications but there is an undeniable response from him. It does not take some mystical, unorganized, pie-in-the-sky scheme to get under his skin either. It is something people (and not just the media) can build upon. Perhaps the defiance of a narcissist has limits. The only way of knowing for sure is continuing to push buttons that actually work.

The question is, if fans stopped paying attention to the Cowboys, would the media stop paying attention to Jerry? I do believe if the media stopped going to Jerry as the spokesperson of the Cowboys, Jerry would react to regain their attention. But honestly, at this point, he is 82. A strategy of ignoring the Cowboys to wake Jerry out of his ego trip would take longer than I think he has.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I didn't really consider this perspective but I do agree with it. Jerry does not consider the fans much. But again, Jerry bought the team to be his play thing. If he can't play with it, he won't want it. Using the race car analogy, he bought a race car so he could drive it. He is not going to hire a driver to drive it for him. Its not about winning races, it is about driving the car. Perhaps if fans just stopped paying attention to him, stopped going to games, stopped buying Cowboys merch, he would change his mind, but I don't think so. Jerry enjoys being the GM, the guy in charge, the guy they come to with microphones and cameras in hand. The questions about losing bother him but he just deflects them with long winded incoherent comments now - and, he grow more defiant.

Only time will remove Jerry from his toy. Then we will have to see how Stephen and the rest of the family respond to losing and the fans.

Jerry does consider the fans. His focus is not on the die hard ardent fans who will complain but don't go anywhere. He is focused on the casual and fringe fans who care about the experience and are not as deeply involved nor understand football as the die hards

. Those fans are finicky and will stop following or coming g to games when things are bad. As long as we are pseudo competitive they keep coming. If we lose in playoffs they are ho-hum and just say "oh well next year". I have met and talked to many. Not saying they are wrong or bad fans , just not die hard and deeply involved.

And to keep those fans engaged and interested we just have to be pseudo competitive. Which is exactly what we are. At 3-7 being blown out they stopped coming to stadium. Two games win streak against crappy teams and they flocked again. They like the experience more than actual end result of why a team competes.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

lying to the fans about winning being important.
About being 'all in'
you want more examples?
Unless you think lying is not immoral.

Those exames aren't immoral. They are marketing ploy. He can say all in....with what i have and because of contracts our hands were tied. It's a spin. It's how he chose to run organization. It's within the rules. Immoral acts have impact on social and livelihood and fabric of society. This has none of that as at the end of the day it's just entertainment

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The question is, if fans stopped paying attention to the Cowboys, would the media stop paying attention to Jerry? I do believe if the media stopped going to Jerry as the spokesperson of the Cowboys, Jerry would react to regain their attention. But honestly, at this point, he is 82. A strategy of ignoring the Cowboys to wake Jerry out of his ego trip would take longer than I think he has.

It's not about ardent fans stop paying attention. The casual and fringe fans care about the experience of a game day or a season and casual about winning championships.

NFL consciously made an effort to BRing more of those type fans to expand the viewership pie. Those fans buy a jersey because it's fun. Those fans watch or go to games because it's fun. As long as games are close and there is alot of scoring so they can cheer and have fun they are satisfied.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You're 100% right what I would have liked to have written would have been how can we fix this and get our team back but I know it's impossible.

One way and one way only. Jerry and Stephen have to step away.

 

[kskboys]

Jerry does consider the fans. His focus is not on the die hard ardent fans who will complain but don't go anywhere. He is focused on the casual and fringe fans who care about the experience and are not as deeply involved nor understand football as the die hards

. Those fans are finicky and will stop following or coming g to games when things are bad. As long as we are pseudo competitive they keep coming. If we lose in playoffs they are ho-hum and just say "oh well next year". I have met and talked to many. Not saying they are wrong or bad fans , just not die hard and deeply involved.

And to keep those fans engaged and interested we just have to be pseudo competitive. Which is exactly what we are. At 3-7 being blown out they stopped coming to stadium. Two games win streak against crappy teams and they flocked again. They like the experience more than actual end result of why a team competes.

Agree. Jerry doesn't care about the fans who care.

 

[Cowboys_vs_The_World]

I'm not defending Jerry but just because his definition of all-in does not match your expectation doesn't mean he has lied to you. I believe in his mind he thinks winning is important. He is doing what he thinks he needs to do to win. I don't think he is going down the right path but I don't think he intentionally lied to you

I think he was poised to go "All In" then cap boy got in his ear and told him pops, are you crazy? It's too risky!"

 

[kskboys]

I think he was poised to go "All In" then cap boy got in his ear and told him pops, are you crazy? It's too risky!"

I think he was just blathering as usual.

Jerry actually has a great plan. Keep the team relevant, and sell optimism to the fans that this team is close. Jerry has done an excellent job of this. I stopped falling for it back in 2009. The idiotic STs draft is what did me in as far as believing.

 

[Cowboys_vs_The_World]

I think he was just blathering as usual.

Jerry actually has a great plan. Keep the team relevant, and sell optimism to the fans that this team is close. Jerry has done an excellent job of this. I stopped falling for it back in 2009. The idiotic STs draft is what did me in as far as believing.

Maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part that he was about to go all in..I'm just tired of feeling like there's no hope in bringing the Cowboys back to the glory days when teams would actually respect both the Cowboys offense and defense

 

[ArtClink]

Prime was the only OOTB candidate that would have been able to change the culture. Didn't happen. We done. Dak Sux. Jj sux. Schitty sux. Buckle your belt.

Jerry is the culture and he’s not hiring anyone to take to spotlight off himself. The culture will change when a Jones no longer owns the team.

 

[kskboys]

Maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part that he was about to go all in..I'm just tired of feeling like there's no hope in bringing the Cowboys back to the glory days when teams would actually respect both the Cowboys offense and defense

It would take a pile of luck. Pretty much an accident. Like Parsons falling in our lap. And to think, Jerry didn't even want him.

 

[Established1971]

After listening to Bill Belichick talk on inside the NFL about after being in the parades that he could see how much it meant to the fan base to win the championship in New England and how much it meant to the city and the people in it and it really had an effect on him.
Jerry has no conscience he has no loyalty to his fan base there's no loyalty no sense of obligation to the city of Dallas and all the fans of the Cowboys.
The only thing he is loyal to is making the most out of his investment and doing whatever makes him the most money.

He has no morals no scruples no empathy for the suffering he puts his fan base through on a yearly basis.

I live in the Philadelphia area and yes they can be a horrible god-forsaken group of people but they love their football team and their owner loves the fan base and he knows what it means to them and strives to put the best team on the field at all times.
We've seen him make mistakes Chip Kelly Carson Wentz but the guy picks up starts from scratch and retools and creates winning teams because he doesn't quit on his fan base and sell out for just his own profit.

Jerry on the other hand has no conscience and quit on his fan base long ago to pursue strictly his own material gain at the expense of his fan base and City and it's really that simple He's just never going to do what's necessary to get us over the top.

It's always going to be some half-assed effort that makes him the most money and gives the fan base false hope strings us along and just dangles the carrot in front of our nose.

The man is a carnival Barker with the morals of an alley cat that has ruined America's team and will continue to take advantage of our loyalty to the star and use it to his advantage and his family after him will do the same thing that's where we're at as Cowboys fans

We are at the mercy of a billionaire who treats us like peasants from a medieval time period.

What are your thoughts

my thoughts? on the 175,651st thread on how much someone dislikes Jerry?

 

[Ranching]

After listening to Bill Belichick talk on inside the NFL about after being in the parades that he could see how much it meant to the fan base to win the championship in New England and how much it meant to the city and the people in it and it really had an effect on him.
Jerry has no conscience he has no loyalty to his fan base there's no loyalty no sense of obligation to the city of Dallas and all the fans of the Cowboys.
The only thing he is loyal to is making the most out of his investment and doing whatever makes him the most money.

He has no morals no scruples no empathy for the suffering he puts his fan base through on a yearly basis.

I live in the Philadelphia area and yes they can be a horrible god-forsaken group of people but they love their football team and their owner loves the fan base and he knows what it means to them and strives to put the best team on the field at all times.
We've seen him make mistakes Chip Kelly Carson Wentz but the guy picks up starts from scratch and retools and creates winning teams because he doesn't quit on his fan base and sell out for just his own profit.

Jerry on the other hand has no conscience and quit on his fan base long ago to pursue strictly his own material gain at the expense of his fan base and City and it's really that simple He's just never going to do what's necessary to get us over the top.

It's always going to be some half-assed effort that makes him the most money and gives the fan base false hope strings us along and just dangles the carrot in front of our nose.

The man is a carnival Barker with the morals of an alley cat that has ruined America's team and will continue to take advantage of our loyalty to the star and use it to his advantage and his family after him will do the same thing that's where we're at as Cowboys fans

We are at the mercy of a billionaire who treats us like peasants from a medieval time period.

What are your thoughts

They may treat us like peasants, but unlike those of the past...we can leave anytime we want. We're here because we want to be, no one to blame but ourselves....if you choose to wallow, it's your choice.

 

[oldcorvetteguy]

Shut down all the Walmarts. So Jerry can't draft greeters.

 

[mahoneybill]

It is extremely likely Deion Sanders, like Bill Belichick before him, was always a blank in Jerry Jones' publicity gun. Jones has the ability to go after any coach and throw the kitchen sink at his target in order to hire them.

Jones wants certain types of coaches. Their coaching qualifications are a secondary consideration for him.

So true as coaches $$$ don’t count against the cap there’s nothing stopping him from outbidding any competitor

 

[mahoneybill]

One way and one way only. Jerry and Stephen have to step away.

So true Jr is actually less charismatic than JJ in his best Bs’er mode