The mistake of putting everything on the skill position players

[Chasing6]

Hard to argue with that. Nonetheless, improve the lines, improve the entire roster. There are too many here that think re-signing Trance is a good idea. This team has a long way to go.

Depending on what falls to us, I could see us trading back again.

 

[Blackrain]

Ty and you would think Jerry realizes this.

I can't see how he doesn't realize the impact of powerful trenches when he was an offensive lineman on a championship winning team in Arkansas 1964.

I'm thinking he realizes this but just chooses to ignore it for more glamorous players that sell jerseys

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

You can almost always find a RB or WR in FA or via trade....even guys in their prime.

Almost impossible to find premier tackles or Pass rushers in their prime, unless you draft them. Teams just don't send off great tackles.

Coaches who excel in developing guys are crucial.

 

[Bagman]

The problem is teams like the Eagles, Ravens, and Rams draft players to add to their plan. Jerry drafts players to replace to players lost via free agent with NO plan. Just plugging holes around a group high priced court players.

This is it. Right here. This is what's wrong in Dallas. The FO is NEVER PROACTIVE. Always REACTIVE. They sit around and watch players leave because they're too lazy and cheap to work hard and retain talent. Then the draft rolls around and they use picks to plug holes instead of a talent infusion like the good teams do. One step back, one step forward always leaves you in the same place.

 

[Diehardblues]

I probably don't need to re-emphasize who the real stars of the SB were but I will anyway. The egirls (who I hate) have made it crystal clear what their cornerstones are on their team that they rely on MOST: Their trench players - OL and front 7 on D. They are hands down the league’s best. They had 6 ALL PROS this year and 4 of them were either OL, DL or LBs.

In fact if anyone really studies what Philly’s most simplified formula for winning is look no further than guys like DT Jalen Carter, LG Landon Dickerson, RT Lane Johnson, LT Jordan Mailata, LB Zack Baun, and NT Jordan Davis. Those guys dominate the LOS and make it much easier for Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown to make plays. Two of the three skill position guys - Barkley and Brown - were both FA acquisitions, not draft picks.

As we begin to prepare for the off-season with FA and the draft, I hope this front office can once and for all learn the real cornerstones we need aren’t just WRs, RBs and QBs. It’s like Jerry still thinks the only reason we were so dominant in the 90s was because of “The Triplets”. Sure that helped to have Troy, Emmitt and Michael but without Mark Tunei, Nate Newton, Erik Williams, and Charles Hailey, the Cowboys don’t win 3 SBs in the 90s.

I know we need a RB, and second WR, but honestly IMO, we need to use a lot of early draft capital acquiring some beasts. Getting good RBs and WRs are way easier than top tier trench players.

I hope our FO can finally learn triplets are only as good as the people who block and tackle in support of them.

No doubt. But I’d also note their key positions are better overall too.

I’d take their QB, RB and receivers over ours.

 

[Chuck 54]

I probably don't need to re-emphasize who the real stars of the SB were but I will anyway. The egirls (who I hate) have made it crystal clear what their cornerstones are on their team that they rely on MOST: Their trench players - OL and front 7 on D. They are hands down the league’s best. They had 6 ALL PROS this year and 4 of them were either OL, DL or LBs.

In fact if anyone really studies what Philly’s most simplified formula for winning is look no further than guys like DT Jalen Carter, LG Landon Dickerson, RT Lane Johnson, LT Jordan Mailata, LB Zack Baun, and NT Jordan Davis. Those guys dominate the LOS and make it much easier for Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown to make plays. Two of the three skill position guys - Barkley and Brown - were both FA acquisitions, not draft picks.

As we begin to prepare for the off-season with FA and the draft, I hope this front office can once and for all learn the real cornerstones we need aren’t just WRs, RBs and QBs. It’s like Jerry still thinks the only reason we were so dominant in the 90s was because of “The Triplets”. Sure that helped to have Troy, Emmitt and Michael but without Mark Tunei, Nate Newton, Erik Williams, and Charles Hailey, the Cowboys don’t win 3 SBs in the 90s.

I know we need a RB, and second WR, but honestly IMO, we need to use a lot of early draft capital acquiring some beasts. Getting good RBs and WRs are way easier than top tier trench players.

I hope our FO can finally learn triplets are only as good as the people who block and tackle in support of them.

It never hurts to have some luck too, Bob. Zach Baun played mostly edge in NO for 4 years before they gave up on him and let him walk. Philly signed him and he transitioned to inside LB in the offseason. I feel confident they signed him as competition and depth. Who would have guessed he’d perform as one of the best LBs in the NFL and make first team all pro?!

In 4 years in NO, his tackle total was 88, and 30 was his season high. In his first year in Philly, he totaled 152 tackles….out of nowhere! That said, back to your point….Im sure that Philly DL helped him find his groove.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I probably don't need to re-emphasize who the real stars of the SB were but I will anyway. The egirls (who I hate) have made it crystal clear what their cornerstones are on their team that they rely on MOST: Their trench players - OL and front 7 on D. They are hands down the league’s best. They had 6 ALL PROS this year and 4 of them were either OL, DL or LBs.

In fact if anyone really studies what Philly’s most simplified formula for winning is look no further than guys like DT Jalen Carter, LG Landon Dickerson, RT Lane Johnson, LT Jordan Mailata, LB Zack Baun, and NT Jordan Davis. Those guys dominate the LOS and make it much easier for Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown to make plays. Two of the three skill position guys - Barkley and Brown - were both FA acquisitions, not draft picks.

As we begin to prepare for the off-season with FA and the draft, I hope this front office can once and for all learn the real cornerstones we need aren’t just WRs, RBs and QBs. It’s like Jerry still thinks the only reason we were so dominant in the 90s was because of “The Triplets”. Sure that helped to have Troy, Emmitt and Michael but without Mark Tunei, Nate Newton, Erik Williams, and Charles Hailey, the Cowboys don’t win 3 SBs in the 90s.

I know we need a RB, and second WR, but honestly IMO, we need to use a lot of early draft capital acquiring some beasts. Getting good RBs and WRs are way easier than top tier trench players.

I hope our FO can finally learn triplets are only as good as the people who block and tackle in support of them.

Agreed with your premise.

Sadly, even if the Cowboys get several really good trench players, they will still be short at WR, S. LB and TE. Not that they don't have Lamb, etc. but the no. 2s at those positions aren't "up to snuff".

They could get those players, but they'd have to hit on all those, have them all stay healthy and stick around for long enough to get in sync with the system.

Tall order, especially for Jerry...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

It never hurts to have some luck too, Bob. Zach Baun played mostly edge in NO for 4 years before they gave up on him and let him walk. Philly signed him and he transitioned to inside LB in the offseason. I feel confident they signed him as competition and depth. Who would have guessed he’d perform as one of the best LBs in the NFL and make first team all pro?!

In 4 years in NO, his tackle total was 88, and 30 was his season high. In his first year in Philly, he totaled 152 tackles….out of nowhere! That said, back to your point….Im sure that Philly DL helped him find his groove.

What, you mean coaching matters????

Who'd a thunk it?

 

[Bobhaze]

We can’t draft DT’s. Some is 3 years of playoffs, meaning late picks. Good DT prospects go early. Edge guys are a bit easier. That’s why I’d put me FA dollars in a DT if I could while still drafting one

Don’t disagree at all. But the problem in getting a good DT in FA is two-fold:
1. The teams that have really good DTs usually don’t let them get away.
2. We don’t ever seem to be willing to pay for one in FA.

 

[conner01]

Don’t disagree at all. But the problem in getting a good DT in FA is two-fold:
1. The teams that have really good DTs usually don’t let them get away.
2. We don’t ever seem to be willing to pay for one in FA.

No doubt. No real studs so far. An older guy could get cut if a team drafts one but a real stud is hard to get and expensive

 

[kskboys]

Don’t disagree at all. But the problem in getting a good DT in FA is two-fold:
1. The teams that have really good DTs usually don’t let them get away.
2. We don’t ever seem to be willing to pay for one in FA.

3. Our player evaluation is so bad that we simply don't know what makes a DT effective. Jerry tends to go for tall slim guys so they can get their hands up.

 

[kskboys]

Agreed with your premise.

Sadly, even if the Cowboys get several really good trench players, they will still be short at WR, S. LB and TE. Not that they don't have Lamb, etc. but the no. 2s at those positions aren't "up to snuff".

They could get those players, but they'd have to hit on all those, have them all stay healthy and stick around for long enough to get in sync with the system.

Tall order, especially for Jerry...

Short at TE? Howso?

 

[kskboys]

This is it. Right here. This is what's wrong in Dallas. The FO is NEVER PROACTIVE. Always REACTIVE. They sit around and watch players leave because they're too lazy and cheap to work hard and retain talent. Then the draft rolls around and they use picks to plug holes instead of a talent infusion like the good teams do. One step back, one step forward always leaves you in the same place.

Even worse. They don't know what talent is.

 

[kskboys]

No doubt. But I’d also note their key positions are better overall too.

I’d take their QB, RB and receivers over ours.

Aside from Parsons and maybe Tyler Smith, they might well be better than us at every other position.

 

[gtb1943]

I can't see how he doesn't realize the impact of powerful trenches when he was an offensive lineman on a championship winning team in Arkansas 1964.

I'm thinking he realizes this but just chooses to ignore it for more glamorous players that sell jerseys

as a guard he should know above anyone how important a DT is and clearly does not

 

[gtb1943]

Aside from Parsons and maybe Tyler Smith, they might well be better than us at every other position.

CeeDee is arguable but outside of those two and Aubrey....

 

[tomokawan]

I probably don't need to re-emphasize who the real stars of the SB were but I will anyway. The egirls (who I hate) have made it crystal clear what their cornerstones are on their team that they rely on MOST: Their trench players - OL and front 7 on D. They are hands down the league’s best. They had 6 ALL PROS this year and 4 of them were either OL, DL or LBs.

In fact if anyone really studies what Philly’s most simplified formula for winning is look no further than guys like DT Jalen Carter, LG Landon Dickerson, RT Lane Johnson, LT Jordan Mailata, LB Zack Baun, and NT Jordan Davis. Those guys dominate the LOS and make it much easier for Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown to make plays. Two of the three skill position guys - Barkley and Brown - were both FA acquisitions, not draft picks.

As we begin to prepare for the off-season with FA and the draft, I hope this front office can once and for all learn the real cornerstones we need aren’t just WRs, RBs and QBs. It’s like Jerry still thinks the only reason we were so dominant in the 90s was because of “The Triplets”. Sure that helped to have Troy, Emmitt and Michael but without Mark Tunei, Nate Newton, Erik Williams, and Charles Hailey, the Cowboys don’t win 3 SBs in the 90s.

I know we need a RB, and second WR, but honestly IMO, we need to use a lot of early draft capital acquiring some beasts. Getting good RBs and WRs are way easier than top tier trench players.

I hope our FO can finally learn triplets are only as good as the people who block and tackle in support of them.

If we keep downplaying the importance of a stud RB, we will never win another Superbowl. I agree with need to aquire key player's for the D-line and O-line. Not star players, but important clogs in the machine.

 

[GMO415]

I probably don't need to re-emphasize who the real stars of the SB were but I will anyway. The egirls (who I hate) have made it crystal clear what their cornerstones are on their team that they rely on MOST: Their trench players - OL and front 7 on D. They are hands down the league’s best. They had 6 ALL PROS this year and 4 of them were either OL, DL or LBs.

In fact if anyone really studies what Philly’s most simplified formula for winning is look no further than guys like DT Jalen Carter, LG Landon Dickerson, RT Lane Johnson, LT Jordan Mailata, LB Zack Baun, and NT Jordan Davis. Those guys dominate the LOS and make it much easier for Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown to make plays. Two of the three skill position guys - Barkley and Brown - were both FA acquisitions, not draft picks.

As we begin to prepare for the off-season with FA and the draft, I hope this front office can once and for all learn the real cornerstones we need aren’t just WRs, RBs and QBs. It’s like Jerry still thinks the only reason we were so dominant in the 90s was because of “The Triplets”. Sure that helped to have Troy, Emmitt and Michael but without Mark Tunei, Nate Newton, Erik Williams, and Charles Hailey, the Cowboys don’t win 3 SBs in the 90s.

I know we need a RB, and second WR, but honestly IMO, we need to use a lot of early draft capital acquiring some beasts. Getting good RBs and WRs are way easier than top tier trench players.

I hope our FO can finally learn triplets are only as good as the people who block and tackle in support of them.

BULLET!!!!
It's not just the emphasis is on both sides of the line, but it's about analyzing the "best talented" players. Cowboys put their draft on the DL but they drafted trash- Taco and Mazi.

 

[kskboys]

CeeDee is arguable but outside of those two and Aubrey....

Maybe in the slot.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Short at TE? Howso?

Ferguson regressed last year, Schoonmaker hasn't produced much, Spann-Ford hasn't played much and Fant is just a backup.

Numbers-wise, no, they're not short, speaking of proven quality TEs at this point.