Why I don’t think we should sign Cooper

[CouchCoach]

It's weird because if he actually had a long term plan way back in 2007 or even 1994?? he could've won something by now. You would think a 'smart' businessman would know better. But he wastes year after year chasing a ghost.

But the one constant is that he can still make more profit and increased value chasing a ghost. That has really been our problem as fans, Booger has not had to win since the early days and when he needed to get the stadium he wanted, he just hired the last guy anyone thought he would hire.

Ya know, we really don't know what kind of GM he could be if he really worked at it. He does it part-time, and only the things he wants to do, and his decisions do not impact the bottom line. He knows he's going to end up on top in the ratings and revenue, what really counts to him because that's his tail wagging the dog at those owners' meetings.

Biggie, I gotta say, you put most people in management in a situation like he's in, a no lose situation, and they might get a little lackadaisical as well. I know my biggest motivation when I was in management....the fear of failure. He doesn't have any of that. He gets pissed when they lose but that's ego.

 

[Verdict]

I know this ship has sailed, but man what I would give to have Dak in year two of a long term $30m per year deal right now.

 

[Diehardblues]

Hot sports opinion here: I don’t think the Cowboys need to sign Amari Cooper. Yes, I know I will take missiles for this but hear me out.

Yes, Cooper is an excellent receiver, I get that. Yes, he has played very well here and has had great chemistry with Dak most of the time. Yes, Jerry gave up a first rounder to get him. Understood. Yes, he’s a hard worker and good person off the field...I get that too. But here are my reasons why I don’t think it’s in the best interest of this team to sign Amari Cooper:

• First of all, having a big contract WR AND big dollar RB is not usually a common formula for a championship roster. In fact, I think the Zeke contract was a mistake but that’s another argument.

• I think saving that cap space to invest in other areas of the team would be smarter and have a bigger impact in both the short and long term. Having a deeper roster at multiple positions is how you get better! (Look at the niners last year- they were good at many positions very quickly) We need help at so many positions and we are sinking a fortune in positions that are easier to find talent (RB and WR)
  
  
• Michael Gallup will be in his third season, and I believe he’s ready to emerge even more as a go to receiver. Draft a WR in rounds 3-5, and/or sign a cheaper FA with some upside. (Side note: It’s an outdated idea to think you must always have a clear “#1 receiver”. All you need today are multiple receivers that are legit threats)

• We might be able to afford bringing Randall Cobb back plus a good rookie receiver. (This is a deep draft for receivers) Thus giving us more options and flexibility on a roster that needs a ton of help on the other side of the ball.

Honestly, I think this ship has sailed and I will be surprised if Cooper isn’t signed to a big contract. I like Amari Cooper and I know he will continue to be a great player. And I will certainly be thrilled if keeping him proves we wrong, which could easily happen.

But....I don’t think keeping Amari Cooper is a cornerstone to a championship. Just my opinion.

Agree. Just chalk up using a 1st round pick for Coop as a temporary sacrifice to bolster that team and our top 5 paid franchise QB will need to carry us now. Time to sink or swim without all of this Elite supporting cast.

Use the money to shore up defense and draft another WR.

 

[cern]

But the one constant is that he can still make more profit and increased value chasing a ghost. That has really been our problem as fans, Booger has not had to win since the early days and when he needed to get the stadium he wanted, he just hired the last guy anyone thought he would hire.

Ya know, we really don't know what kind of GM he could be if he really worked at it. He does it part-time, and only the things he wants to do, and his decisions do not impact the bottom line. He knows he's going to end up on top in the ratings and revenue, what really counts to him because that's his tail wagging the dog at those owners' meetings.

Biggie, I gotta say, you put most people in management in a situation like he's in, a no lose situation, and they might get a little lackadaisical as well. I know my biggest motivation when I was in management....the fear of failure. He doesn't have any of that. He gets pissed when they lose but that's ego.

his problem, coach, is he thinks a few playmakers will take the team to the promised. all the triplets were great to be sure, but the team also had a great o-line, great defense, and great coaching staff. remember, just before romo's last deal, jerry was saying tony's scrambling abilities were so great they precluded the need for a good o-line. and years earlier 500 other coaches could coach the cowboys to the superbowl. and his first draft pick on his own was shante carver. the failed deals for Galloway and wr roy Williams still trying to find the magical playmaker. but even jerry knows now that the dream has died. he did it his way and his way failed. now we can only hope stephen learned how not to do things.

 

[Diehardblues]

But the one constant is that he can still make more profit and increased value chasing a ghost. That has really been our problem as fans, Booger has not had to win since the early days and when he needed to get the stadium he wanted, he just hired the last guy anyone thought he would hire.

Ya know, we really don't know what kind of GM he could be if he really worked at it. He does it part-time, and only the things he wants to do, and his decisions do not impact the bottom line. He knows he's going to end up on top in the ratings and revenue, what really counts to him because that's his tail wagging the dog at those owners' meetings.

Biggie, I gotta say, you put most people in management in a situation like he's in, a no lose situation, and they might get a little lackadaisical as well. I know my biggest motivation when I was in management....the fear of failure. He doesn't have any of that. He gets pissed when they lose but that's ego.

The end of last season does provide us a glimmer of hope Jerry can be persuaded or at least diverted and influenced as he obviously made a decision he didn’t want to squirming and pouting to the end.

 

[Verdict]

I don't go 20 Million either but I don't think he is going to turn down a good offer from Dallas. He has said all the right things all along the way and clearly likes playing on this team, there are plenty of creative structures (like Zeke that I mentioned above) to get him enough money but done in a way that works for the Dallas cap.

I think Dak, Amari and Quinn are all resigned before FA and the initial cap hits will be lower than people here expect.

I thought that about Dak too, but if that is the case why hasn’t he already signed. Dallas has offered to make him a very rich man.

The same can be said for the others too.

 

[Diehardblues]

Troys comments made an impact along with the seasons collapse.

Imagine what an impact fans could have made over the years if revenue hadn’t continued to rise.

I’d argued for years Garrett only survived barring a collapse. It’s the only time Jerry has been forced to change his course.

Too bad the revenue hasn’t ever collapsed.

 

[Verdict]

Or sign Cooper and still draft Jeudy or Lamb. Then target defensive players the rest of the way. I wonder what Dallas does if Lamb and Delpit are both on the board when they pick.

You take Lamb and don’t look back. Delpit doesn’t seem to be able to tackle which is a serious issue.

 

[cern]

Troys comments made an impact along with the seasons collapse.

Imagine what an impact fans could have made over the years if revenue hadn’t continued to rise.

I’d argued for years Garrett only survived barring a collapse. It’s the only time Jerry has been forced to change his course.

Too bad the revenue hasn’t ever collapsed.

the game is bigger than any individual, ergo the money stream continues regardless of jerry. but I do agree aikman's criticisms were sharper than a serpent's tooth in jerry's backside.

 

[glimmerman]

He has already turned down a top 5 offer. Guessing he is looking for 20+. But he has said a few million isn’t a big deal when playing in a warmer climate.

 

[Redball Express]

Hot sports opinion here: I don’t think the Cowboys need to sign Amari Cooper. Yes, I know I will take missiles for this but hear me out.

Yes, Cooper is an excellent receiver, I get that. Yes, he has played very well here and has had great chemistry with Dak most of the time. Yes, Jerry gave up a first rounder to get him. Understood. Yes, he’s a hard worker and good person off the field...I get that too. But here are my reasons why I don’t think it’s in the best interest of this team to sign Amari Cooper:

• First of all, having a big contract WR AND big dollar RB is not usually a common formula for a championship roster. In fact, I think the Zeke contract was a mistake but that’s another argument.

• I think saving that cap space to invest in other areas of the team would be smarter and have a bigger impact in both the short and long term. Having a deeper roster at multiple positions is how you get better! (Look at the niners last year- they were good at many positions very quickly) We need help at so many positions and we are sinking a fortune in positions that are easier to find talent (RB and WR)
  
  
• Michael Gallup will be in his third season, and I believe he’s ready to emerge even more as a go to receiver. Draft a WR in rounds 3-5, and/or sign a cheaper FA with some upside. (Side note: It’s an outdated idea to think you must always have a clear “#1 receiver”. All you need today are multiple receivers that are legit threats)

• We might be able to afford bringing Randall Cobb back plus a good rookie receiver. (This is a deep draft for receivers) Thus giving us more options and flexibility on a roster that needs a ton of help on the other side of the ball.

Honestly, I think this ship has sailed and I will be surprised if Cooper isn’t signed to a big contract. I like Amari Cooper and I know he will continue to be a great player. And I will certainly be thrilled if keeping him proves we wrong, which could easily happen.

But....I don’t think keeping Amari Cooper is a cornerstone to a championship. Just my opinion.

Funny thing has been..

Michael Gallop is successful BECUZ Cooper is so dangerous on the other side.

It leaves Gallop in single coverage alot and that's a mis-match.

The most important gear that is missing is we have no TE that other teams fear.

Witten is leaving, he had lost alot of his effectiveness the last few years. Jarwin is not enough to change that.

Draft me a TE for the offense that both blocks for Zeke AND catches 5-8 passes a game for 1st downs and redzone TDs..

and we move up exponentially as an offense to a SB.

It gets us all edgy about the enormous monies being thrown around for our stars to remain with our team.

But we have a plan and hopefully with McCarthy it works.

 

[BigCatMonaco]

The best value at 17 is going to be Jeudy or Lamb when they slip.

Should work it out with Prescott already because they are going to eventually cave....and tag Cooper.

If the draft goes your way you lift the tag.

Lmao.

there is no way both slip to 17.

 

[Big_D]

But the one constant is that he can still make more profit and increased value chasing a ghost. That has really been our problem as fans, Booger has not had to win since the early days and when he needed to get the stadium he wanted, he just hired the last guy anyone thought he would hire.

Ya know, we really don't know what kind of GM he could be if he really worked at it. He does it part-time, and only the things he wants to do, and his decisions do not impact the bottom line. He knows he's going to end up on top in the ratings and revenue, what really counts to him because that's his tail wagging the dog at those owners' meetings.

Biggie, I gotta say, you put most people in management in a situation like he's in, a no lose situation, and they might get a little lackadaisical as well. I know my biggest motivation when I was in management....the fear of failure. He doesn't have any of that. He gets pissed when they lose but that's ego.

Money is his only legacy. the guy sucked otherwise. All this talk on how bad Jerry wanted to win was just drivel. The guy hasn't proven it in a quarter of a century. You're absolutely right, no fear of failure and the money rolled in no matter what, but he still blew opportunities to at least compete for a championship. Getting pissed when you lose isn't enough. He crossed his fingers and hoped for the best without the smart management that coincides with a successful team.

Getting that stadium was the worst thing that could've happened for the fans. Complacency ensued. Before Parcells and the cash cow that is now AT&T he knew his back was against the wall and still made ridiculously horrible decisions. And at that time there was a hint of fear which had him put the call in to Parcells in the first place.

 

[Aviano90]

Too bad the revenue hasn’t ever collapsed.

If people had the will power to quit watching the NFL then maybe revenue would collapse.

 

[cern]

If people had the will power to quit watching the NFL then maybe revenue would collapse.

but we know that will never happen.

 

[Redball Express]

Lmao.

there is no way both slip to 17.

We just need one..

not both.

I agree with his post.

 

[Redball Express]

Money is his only legacy. the guy sucked otherwise. All this talk on how bad Jerry wanted to win was just drivel. The guy hasn't proven it in a quarter of a century. You're absolutely right, no fear of failure and the money rolled in no matter what, but he still blew opportunities to at least compete for a championship. Getting pissed when you lose isn't enough. He crossed his fingers and hoped for the best without the smart management that coincides with a successful team.

Getting that stadium was the worst thing that could've happened for the fans. Complacency ensued. Before Parcells and the cash cow that is now AT&T he knew his back was against the wall and still made ridiculously horrible decisions. And at that time there was a hint of fear which had him put the call in to Parcells in the first place.

I know you guys have your pet agenda to grind..

But are you guys SERIOUS?

Love him or hate him, dude is in the HofF not for washing sox and jocks or being stupid.

But he taught single-handedly how to do TV contracts and better market their teams to be able to make the NFL what it is today.

You can slander him for not putting Jimster in the RofH, or dislike his wife's selection of art..

but trying to make him seem foolish only makes you look foolish.

And ATT stadium is the first and still the greatest multi-purpose sports venue that exists.

Have you even been there?

My family has 4 seats there. When I do I walk around where the player tunnel is. I go watch some of the game in the standing room only section for part of the game.

It's a huge fun place to go. And if there is any problem with the stadium, it's just got too much to offer.. big screens..dancing girls..food and beverage bars..

It may not be your style but most of us appreciate it.

 

[Big_D]

I know you guys have your pet agenda to grind..

But are you guys SERIOUS?

Love him or hate him, dude is in the HofF not for washing sox and jocksor being stupid.

But he taught single-handedly how to do TV contracts and better market their teams o be able to make the NFL what it is today.

You can slander him for not putting Jimster in the RofH, or dislike his wife's selection of art..

but trying to make him seem foolish only makes you look foolish.

Like I said money is his legacy. You didn't mention once his product on the field. lol That was his job first and foremost. He's in the HOF because he made the league and every team money. Revenue sharing, TV contracts etc. Funny when Cowboy fans brag about his business acumen. His job as a GM on the other hand was terrible.

 

[mcmvp]

Hot sports opinion here: I don’t think the Cowboys need to sign Amari Cooper. Yes, I know I will take missiles for this but hear me out.

Yes, Cooper is an excellent receiver, I get that. Yes, he has played very well here and has had great chemistry with Dak most of the time. Yes, Jerry gave up a first rounder to get him. Understood. Yes, he’s a hard worker and good person off the field...I get that too. But here are my reasons why I don’t think it’s in the best interest of this team to sign Amari Cooper:

• First of all, having a big contract WR AND big dollar RB is not usually a common formula for a championship roster. In fact, I think the Zeke contract was a mistake but that’s another argument.

• I think saving that cap space to invest in other areas of the team would be smarter and have a bigger impact in both the short and long term. Having a deeper roster at multiple positions is how you get better! (Look at the niners last year- they were good at many positions very quickly) We need help at so many positions and we are sinking a fortune in positions that are easier to find talent (RB and WR)
  
  
• Michael Gallup will be in his third season, and I believe he’s ready to emerge even more as a go to receiver. Draft a WR in rounds 3-5, and/or sign a cheaper FA with some upside. (Side note: It’s an outdated idea to think you must always have a clear “#1 receiver”. All you need today are multiple receivers that are legit threats)

• We might be able to afford bringing Randall Cobb back plus a good rookie receiver. (This is a deep draft for receivers) Thus giving us more options and flexibility on a roster that needs a ton of help on the other side of the ball.

Honestly, I think this ship has sailed and I will be surprised if Cooper isn’t signed to a big contract. I like Amari Cooper and I know he will continue to be a great player. And I will certainly be thrilled if keeping him proves we wrong, which could easily happen.

But....I don’t think keeping Amari Cooper is a cornerstone to a championship. Just my opinion.

Intelligent post...I agree. Some will say they spent a 1st on him so he will be signed...and I get it. But that’s actually pretty bad logic. The 1st rounder was too steep of a price in the first place imo. You don’t make a second mistake just because you made a first mistake.

i’m not saying Cooper is bad… But it can be argued that he’s not a top 10 wide receiver. It is also clear that he disappears at times.

 

[Bobhaze]

He won't change it, he just has to coach it better than what they had.

Booger didn't hire him to win in the future, the reason he wanted a NFL guy was to win now. He thinks he has a very talented underachieving team. A huge mistake because he expects it to get better without him making it better. He liked all of that "talent talk" about this team, that was ego pleasing. And BS.

And Jerry thinks all he has to be is “lucky” to win a SB. Just keep drilling wildly until you strike strike oil somehow. That may work in some businesses but it clearly doesn’t work in the NFL.

The old “blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while” or “even a broken clock is right twice a day” theories could describe Jerry’s plan to win a championship.

I also think being GM of the Cowboys is his fun hobby. Being the owner and president regarding making money, he’s done well. But he lacks the humility or discipline when it comes to roster building to know how to build a winning team. He’s just having fun with his money at this point.