Pollard is good, but he's no Zeke

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Weren't you viewing all the posts during the season about the Pollard Lovefest and Zeke hate?...….Zeke got blamed when Pollard fumbled! Agree, there are things that Pollard does better than Zeke, but there are many that Zeke does better than Pollard.

Zeke looked terrible the first half of the season. There is no denying that.

There are definitely things that Pollard does better. I would have to see Pollard for longer to say that he is better than Zeke. Can he carry the load, stay healthy, block?
 

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The question should be is Zeke better than Demarco Murray in his prime? I don't really think he is.....
I think Zeke in his best year(s) is better than Murray in his best year(s), although it's admittedly close, but I think some forget Murray really wasn't the workhorse in Dallas that Zeke is. I also think some tend to think of the Zeke we had last year vs. Murray in his best year.
 

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My friends and associates keep telling me how great Tony Pollard is and that he's better that Zekie. Well, I remember a back by the name of Felix Jones who everyone thought was the next Emmitt when the Boys had Marion Barber. Isn't it funny when the guy playing second fiddle has seriously gaudy numbers until he's asked to carry the baton. I can I get an amen!!!!
This is like looking for DAK's backup.

The previous previous regime would promise they were working on it..

would play Rush and White..

then sit them and shrug shoulders.
My friends and associates keep telling me how great Tony Pollard is and that he's better that Zekie. Well, I remember a back by the name of Felix Jones who everyone thought was the next Emmitt when the Boys had Marion Barber. Isn't it funny when the guy playing second fiddle has seriously gaudy numbers until he's asked to carry the baton. I can I get an amen!!!!
Bridesmaids.

Life is full of them.

That does not mean they aren't worth competing for a husband.

Which brings us to Pollard.

Got the look. Got the speed. Shifty as heck.

But rarely does the stand-in get the lead role.

Mostly because the lead knows it only takes a small break to let the stand-in take over.

Ergo Zeke and Pollard.

Zeke hardly ever comes off the field.

He likes being top dog. He likes climbing into Salvation Army Kettles.

We all know that.

Pollard will have a nice career here.

If he leaves, I wish him well.
 

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I think Zeke in his best year(s) is better than Murray in his best year(s), although it's admittedly close, but I think some forget Murray really wasn't the workhorse in Dallas that Zeke is. I also think some tend to think of the Zeke we had last year vs. Murray in his best year.

You are joking right? In Murray's best season he carried the ball 392 times for over 1800 yards rushing. Set the Cowboys single season rushing record. Then caught 417 passing yards for over 2200 total yards.

In Zeke's best year in 2016 he didn't even get to 2000 combined yards. If that isn't a workhorse, then there never will be one.
 

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You are joking right? In Murray's best season he carried the ball 392 times for over 1800 yards rushing. Set the Cowboys single season rushing record. Then caught 417 passing yards for over 2200 total yards.

In Zeke's best year in 2016 he didn't even get to 2000 combined yards. If that isn't a workhorse, then there never will be one.

Not even close to joking.

As far as being a workhorse, you have to remember that one year was the only season Murray served as a workhorse for Dallas. And he was a huge workhorse that season, without question. But Zeke is a workhorse year after year.

As for the stats in that one season, you have to consider you are talking cumulative stats, which by nature, are dependent as much on workload as effectiveness. I'm not saying it wasn't a great season - it absolute was a great season. But in Zeke's best season he scored 3 more TD's, averaged 0.4 yards per carry more, and a full 4 yards per reception more than Murray did in his best season.
 

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Actually I thought more about that one. That's a very close one. Murray certainly had the better season. Cowboys rushing record, 1800 yards. But his vision wasn't his the greatest either. They were very very similar.
Similar? And Murray had the better offensive line.
 

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The question should be is Zeke better than Demarco Murray in his prime? I don't really think he is.....
It’s a good argument but Murray couldn’t consistently pull off what Zeke has already done. Murray couldn’t stay healthy and that counts. IMO. Plus I hated the way Murray held the ball like a loaf of bread
 

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No. That would be Witten that fumbled the game away in NO. And Murray fumbled the game away because if he scored that touchdown with nothing but grass in front of him the Packers would have been deflated. Period. Murray not protecting the football killed us
that was a bad call and not a fumble..period it was Wittens fumble that aided in the loss..
 

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Weren't you viewing all the posts during the season about the Pollard Lovefest and Zeke hate?...….Zeke got blamed when Pollard fumbled! Agree, there are things that Pollard does better than Zeke, but there are many that Zeke does better than Pollard.

Only think I see that Zeke does better is pass blocking, durability, short yardage.
 

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Not even close to joking.

As far as being a workhorse, you have to remember that one year was the only season Murray served as a workhorse for Dallas. And he was a huge workhorse that season, without question. But Zeke is a workhorse year after year.

As for the stats in that one season, you have to consider you are talking cumulative stats, which by nature, are dependent as much on workload as effectiveness. I'm not saying it wasn't a great season - it absolute was a great season. But in Zeke's best season he scored 3 more TD's, averaged 0.4 yards per carry more, and a full 4 yards per reception more than Murray did in his best season.

No, Zeke simply has gotten the opportunity to be a workhorse. Murray got screwed when he went to philly. Murray is every bit the workhorse that Zeke was.

And no with Zeke. All you are doing is going around and taking the best stats from different seasons and making them into one for Zeke. But nice try on that one.

Bottom line is your claim that Zeke was better in best season is false. Murray's best season was better than Zeke's.

Only thing you got going for you is that Murray went to a RB by committee and never really got the chance to do his thing for 4 or 5 straight years. And lets not forget the mental midget got suspended one year and typically getting arrested and drunk.

Murray was a model citizen and team leader and role model.

Without a doubt, I 100% take Murray and his 3rd round pick status over Zeke and his 15 million, 4th pick in the draft, hold out with two years left, get suspended and drunk nonsense.
 

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Similar? And Murray had the better offensive line.

Maybe a little better Oline. But its pretty laughable you are trying to compare lines. They are about as similar as you are going to get. LOL
 

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Actually I thought more about that one. That's a very close one. Murray certainly had the better season. Cowboys rushing record, 1800 yards. But his vision wasn't his the greatest either. They were very very similar.
Murray had the luxury of having Romo who actually scared defenders out of the box. Romo and Zeke would have been way different than Dak and Zeke. Just my opinion
 

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Murray had the luxury of having Romo who actually scared defenders out of the box. Romo and Zeke would have been way different than Dak and Zeke. Just my opinion

Defenders used to love for Romo to throw the ball. "Let Romo dink and dunk all the way down the field, he will throw a pick sooner or later". Heard that several times from opponents. Romo was consistently getting screwed by the players in the top 100 poll.

I dont think many people were scared of Romo.

Ironically, despite what some say, Dak and Romo are nearly identical in almost all categories their first 4 years in the NFL.

By year #4 Romo was just getting his first start coming off the bench. In year #4 for Dak he was leading the #1 offense in the NFL, 2nd in the NFL in passing, and came one yard short of Romo's all time Cowboys passing record.
 

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On the other hand, Zeke is good but he's no Pollard . . . see what I did there?? Y-a-a-s, the old switcheroo!! :grin: :dance: :lmao:
 
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Murray had the luxury of having Romo who actually scared defenders out of the box. Romo and Zeke would have been way different than Dak and Zeke. Just my opinion
He also played in an offense that constantly abandoned the run the first 3 years of his career, despite the many times Garrett would say we needed to commit to running the ball.
 

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There are definitely things that Pollard does better. I would have to see Pollard for longer to say that he is better than Zeke. Can he carry the load, stay healthy, block?
this is exactly my thoughts, and I think many fans as well.
 
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