Twitter: Fish is adamant Dallas wants to trade for Jamal Adams

[Hawkeye19]

I would not even consider that
This team isn’t a safety from being good
It’s several players from being good
You trade premier picks and pay huge money
That’s just not how you manage the cap
You can’t give guys second contracts and continue to trade picks for more guys you have to them pay huge money

We had the number one offense last year— and our biggest team-wide limitation— the coaching staff— has been addressed. Who knows how many games MM wins last year with the same roster as JG. Is this roster an 8-8 roster or a 13-3 roster with better coaching? Anyone’s guess. I don’t think we are as bad as most people think— I think we underachieved and tuned out a tired coaching staff that refused to adapt and adjust.

Sure— we have a lot of turnover this offseason— BUT— We addressed a serious deficiency along the middle of the DL, and we added a solid vet S to the backend already. We can add some talent via the draft obviously.

My point is that this team is not light years away from contending. Adding a leader like Adams to this D should not be underestimated. Look at SF’s recent turnaround... teams go from being sub .500 to SB contenders in the age of parity.

Unlikely? Sure. Impossible? No. Especially if the coaching staff galvanizes the team to be more than the sum of their individual parts. Adams is a leader that can be the heart and soul of your defense.

 

[Cowboys22]

There really aren't any dominant teams in the NFC. The coaching changes and free agent signings may already make the team much better. Adding a defensive leader like Adams just might put the team over the top if the other changes prove to be effective as well. I'm in on making the move for Adams but I do want to see who is available at 17 and what trade downs come our way first. My first preference would be to use all our draft capital this year on rookies and try and acquire Adams with future picks around week 5 or 6.

 

[Stash]

Im not a cap guru by any means but I find it hard to believe that the cowboys can afford both adams and prescott

They can, the question becomes whether or not they should.

 

[starfan1]

They can, the question becomes whether or not they should.

and sign all their draft picks? Prescott is going to get 35 i would imagine. id be shocked but ok

 

[locked&loaded]

A long time ago, any time a fan trade proposal would come up it always seemed to have Dexter Coakley mentioned. So people kept throwing out trade proposals with him in them.

Also...and maybe more so, its because we flat out released him and the rams picked him up and paid him immediately after. Fans were mad we got nothing for him and add him to trades to try to capture what could have been.....

 

[johneric8]

I would not even consider that
This team isn’t a safety from being good
It’s several players from being good
You trade premier picks and pay huge money
That’s just not how you manage the cap
You can’t give guys second contracts and continue to trade picks for more guys you have to them pay huge money

You need to depart from the old-school mindset! we're not necessarily players away from being great, it's more like we're good coaching away from being great.

 

[Stash]

and sign all their draft picks? Prescott is going to get 35 i would imagine. id be shocked but ok

Sure, and remember "all of their picks" would no longer include that 1st rounder you gave the Jets for Adams.

They're currently projected to have $49 million in space for 2021.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/2021/

So even if both Prescott and Cooper were to cost the top end of their contracts for that year, it's still doable. Trouble is, you wouldn't have any money to do anything else. That would be it, unless you started reworking existing deals and kicking the can down the road.

 

[johneric8]

Help me understand something. When it's been suggested we trade Dak for two #1s, we hear no team would do that because they'd have to pay him. Now we're hearing several say let's give up our #1 and another pick to get a S that we'd have to pay big bucks to next year. Since when is a S more important than a QB?

You're listening to the wrong people! Prescott would bring premium picks in a trade whoever says otherwise is delusional.

 

[ksg811]

Im not a cap guru by any means but I find it hard to believe that the cowboys can afford both adams and prescott

They very easily can.

and sign all their draft picks? Prescott is going to get 35 i would imagine. id be shocked but ok

His cap hit would probably only be about $20 million this year and he's already on the books at 28.7, so re-signing him would actually save on this year's cap and any leftover space rolls into next season. And the cap is going to explode over the next 2 years, so locking in as many long term deals now at current market values is actually wise business.

 

[starfan1]

Sure, and remember "all of their picks" would no longer include that 1st rounder you gave the Jets for Adams.

thats true. I mean Im down for it. I wasnt down for the ET and 2 first rounders people wanted to give up but I can live with jamaal . Id prefer just drafting someone but i wont lose sleep if they did the 1st round pick. Not any more

 

[Stash]

thats true. I mean Im down for it. I wasnt down for the ET and 2 first rounders people wanted to give up but I can live with jamaal . Id prefer just drafting someone but i wont lose sleep if they did the 1st round pick. Not any more

I'm not for a deal for Adams, but I can see the other side of the argument.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Im not a cap guru by any means but I find it hard to believe that the cowboys can afford both adams and prescott

Actually front office already answered your question. Remember last season WE contacted the Jets about trading for him. We even made an offer.......pretty sure any new contract we have to pay him AND Dak's deal was considered.

 

[bsbellomy]

As long as it doesn't require a 1st round pick... NO safety outside of a Ed Reed (whom I wanted to draft over Roy Williams) or Ronnie Lott is worth a 1st round pick IMO.

Actually there are safeties drafted in the first round every year so that kind of blows your theory.

 

[Chuck 54]

Trading for Adams would be one of the dumbest things Dallas could do.
Safety is not a need anything close to CB and edge and center. Give up your prime draft pick and 5 years of control so you can move Woods or Dix to the bench and not use the rookie from last year? Trade for a guy who doesn’t get interceptions and plays in the box but wants 15 million? Nope.

 

[bsbellomy]

Too many fans here have bought into this cheapskate, hoard cap room mentality.

Jamal Adams makes us a contender for the NFC Championship game right now.

Cap room does not win a single game.

Great payers do.

Sure but you can't have 7-8 players taking up half the cap and still field a competitive team either.

 

[ksg811]

Sure, and remember "all of their picks" would no longer include that 1st rounder you gave the Jets for Adams.

They're currently projected to have $49 million in space for 2021.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/2021/

So even if both Prescott and Cooper were to cost the top end of their contracts for that year, it's still doable. Trouble is, you wouldn't have any money to do anything else. That would be it, unless you started reworking existing deals and kicking the can down the road.

That number doesn't include rollover or the expected jump in cap from the new CBA agreement. I conservatively have them with $30 million in space next year with all core players singed and no major free agents. And that's before in season manipulation of the cap. They have more than enough space to do whatever they want.

 

[bsbellomy]

There’s about 4-6 guys that could be available on rookie contracts that will be as impactful as Adams on a big contract. Cowboys just have to scout em right and make that choice on draft day. Would be foolish to pull the trigger before they’re on the clock

Yes sir, all we need now is a time machine so we are able to confirm which ones will do that.

 

[Stash]

That number doesn't include rollover or the expected jump in cap from the new CBA agreement. I conservatively have them with $30 million in space next year with all core players singed and no major free agents. And that's before in season manipulation of the cap. They have more than enough space to do whatever they want.

I think rollover is a pretty good add as well, if done conservatively. But as for the "jump in cap", I wouldn't plan my future on that.

 

[rpowell14]

Trade zeke for a second and then trade that second along with a 4th for Adams. That's all I would give up for him considering he needs to be paid next year

 

[ksg811]

I think rollover is a pretty good add as well, if done conservatively. But as for the "jump in cap", I wouldn't plan my future on that.

Jerry is on the NFL's television committee. He would know as well as anyone how the new TV negotiations are going, which would unlock an additional .5% increase to players on top of the 1.5% increase agreed to in the CBA. Jerry and co. have been aggressive the last couple years in signing "their guys" to market setting deals. Say what you will about his football acumen, but he's an excellent businessman, so I take his recent aggression as a sign that he knows it's coming, so my forecasts take that into consideration.