Highest rushing grades in goal to go situations since 2015

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America's Cowboy said:
Does it matter? TDs are TDs. This OP is about rushing TDs which Dak is top 4 (higher than Zeke) in the league since 2015. That should tell you something. Actually, it should tell you several things. I'll let you try to figure them out.
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gimmesix said:
But we shouldn't be holding Dak to our expectations when he was drafted. He's now the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, is getting paid franchise tag money and set to get a big deal.

I don't care where a player started. Romo was a UDFA, but he became the starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys and once he did that, he was held to starting QB standards.

Elliott's numbers have gone down rom the bar he set in 2016, but so have Prescott's. I can't see how if you are disappointed in one because of that that you wouldn't also be disappointed with the other. (BTW, again, I'm disappointed with neither; I just don't understand why the same standard isn't applied.)
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Now he’s making bank, I’ll readjust my expectations of him but I wasn’t going to whine about a QB averaging $1 million a year while producing top 10 at his position like most of his haters did.
 
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Zeke sucks in the red zone but players like Kamara, Carson, Henry, Gordon, Mixon, Gurley, Jones, etc are all better
rocyaice said:
Titans have had a great offensive line in that same span.
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Ahhhhh...I believe you’re right, forgot about them, thanks for bringing that to my attention, seriously. IIRC they hardly ever used Henry though and he was still better than zeke in the red zone, at least on 2018.

If you find the red zone rushing stats for 2019 I’d be curious to see them, I’ve searched for detailed stats but haven’t found them. May need a PFF subscription or something.
 
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This post isn’t actually about rushing TDs, it’s about rating within 10 yards. That being said, Dallas last year was 16th in red zone scoring of TDs and 22nd on the road and Dak rushed for 3 TDs last year and one of them was a 42 yarder, which wouldn’t be included in the stat.

What probably shows better value is his ability to get first downs rushing, even though that stopped significantly last year as well.

But it’s also evident the more he runs, the more inefficient he is. He rushed 75 times at 4.1 YPA, while his other three years in the 50s, it was either well over 5 or above 6 YPA.

and 2017 was his best year running statistically, but that was his worst year as a QB, right up there with pre-Cooper 2018. So I’m not sure what this even means.
 
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khiladi said:
Dak had three last year and one of them was a Jameis Winstoner, which was the longest of his career. He’s had 6 every other year. He rushed 52 times, while years 1 and 2, he ran it 57 times. Last year, he ran it 75 times.
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that is surprising, did not realize he ran it 75 times last year.
I dont care for his option runs, the qb keeper inside the 10 is good, and what he needs to do more is run from passing plays more.
I think that is what happened on the 42 yd td
 
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QuincyCarterEra said:
Lol only 7 of his TDs came in the 4th quarter.
Shut the hell up if you dont know what you're talking about lmao
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Great reply "shut up", but glad you admit about garbage time finally, even if you have the context wrong.
 
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DandyDon52 said:
that is surprising, did not realize he ran it 75 times last year.
I dont care for his option runs, the qb keeper inside the 10 is good, and what he needs to do more is run from passing plays more.
I think that is what happened on the 42 yd td
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Apologies. Need to make a Correction, because it looks like I said two different things in two posts.. 75 times was 2018. He ran it 52 times last year and 57 times in years 1 and 2. In 2018, he ran his lowest yards per attempt and his longest was a 28 yarder. So when he ran more, his efficiency dropped considerably.
 
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Aviano90 said:
Now he’s making bank, I’ll readjust my expectations of him but I wasn’t going to whine about a QB averaging $1 million a year while producing top 10 at his position like most of his haters did.
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My expectations remain the same for players no matter whether they're "making bank."
 
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rocyaice said:
Yeah but I’d be careful Packers for whatever reason went running back in the draft. I love Mark Mack next season though.
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For whatever reason is right. It’s almost as if they’ve had enough of A Rodgers smugness and are trying to set him up for failure to cut him loose. I know that doesn’t make sense but why they skipped over receivers is more than puzzling. It’s right up there with the Eagles skipping a receiver in the 2nd and drafting a QB.
 
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aria said:
Zeke sucks in the red zone but players like Kamara, Carson, Henry, Gordon, Mixon, Gurley, Jones, etc are all better

Ahhhhh...I believe you’re right, forgot about them, thanks for bringing that to my attention, seriously. IIRC they hardly ever used Henry though and he was still better than zeke in the red zone, at least on 2018.

If you find the red zone rushing stats for 2019 I’d be curious to see them, I’ve searched for detailed stats but haven’t found them. May need a PFF subscription or something.
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He sucks so much, he is basically up there as the best in the league. Guys like Mixon aren’t close.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/redzone-rushing.htm
 
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Aviano90 said:
Ok. If you want to say it was because of the legal issues in 2017, then I have no problem with that. I am sure that did have an impact on him. Can’t see how it couldn’t honestly.

But you at least admit it happened. It’s been 2+ years and the people I debate can’t even admit it’s occurred in the first place to even get into discussions for why it may have occurred.

I also am not trying to convince people to hate Zeke. The OP asked a question, I answered the question and then got into a conversation with someone who took issue with my opinion. Being critical of Zeke rubs some people the wrong way. It’s Ok. I am used to it.
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Totally okay with being critical of Zeke. But hey...we'll be critical of Dak too...right?

I've already gone on record as being a Zeke homer. But I have ALSO said SEVERAL TIMES! Did not like the hold out , pay day...or reporting out of shape.

But dare I say Dak throws in the ground behind a receiver and there's holy hell to pay.

And yes.....I believe there are people in here convincing us to hate our won players....and it's my PERCEPTION you...mingle. If you are "critical" a LOT......then you might be guilty. Sorry just the way it is.
 
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