News: SDFW: Dallas Cowboys: Stephen Jones is ruthless and the real villain

[cowboyed]

Stephen doesn’t hire any of the HC’s. They’re all Jerry’s decision.

The reports I've read indicated that Mike McCarthy was Stephen's pet cat. Perhaps hiring HC's are a joint decision. There is a lot of discussion latitude between father and son who also happen to be the top decision makers of the Cowboys franchise. Stephen is the Cowboys Chief Operating Officer/Executive Vice President/Player Personnel and President of AT&T Stadium. Stephen apparently needs a lot of titlist psychic income.

Jerry will be 78 years old in October. I think Stephen is minding the store very much so these days. Jerry is more of a figure head. Just my opinion.

 

[Cowboysfan917]

Good. The only thing he shoulda gotten done sooner was firing Garrett 5 yrs ago

And hiring Andy Reid.

 

[Flamma]

No, but you can’t make a mistake either. I’ve stated many times on this board that I’m a big Dak supporter and I want him on this team. But, I want him at a fair price. I think Dak is a top 10 QB in the league. He is NOT a top 3 (potential yes, but not now) and shouldn’t be paid like one. I think the Rams and Eagles both overpaid for their QBs and I don’t want to do the same thing. The FO did make a mistake this offseason by slapping the regular franchise tag on Dak. They should’ve tagged him so he could explore the market. His eyes would’ve been opened in my opinion.

The Eagles not nearly as bad as the Rams. After Wentz plays out his 5th year option, the Eagles can part ways with Wentz after just one year into his extension , and one big cap hit. The Rams however, they have to endure three sizable cap hits before they can jettison Goff. And I wouldn't even want Goff as Wentz's backup.

 

[Diehardblues]

The reports I've read indicated that Mike McCarthy was Stephen's pet cat. Perhaps hiring HC's are a joint decision. There is a lot of discussion latitude between father and son who also happen to be the top decision makers of the Cowboys franchise. Stephen is the Cowboys Chief Operating Officer/Executive Vice President/Player Personnel and President of AT&T Stadium. Stephen apparently needs a lot of titlist psychic income.

Jerry will be 78 years old in October. I think Stephen is minding the store very much so these days. Jerry is more of a figure head. Just my opinion.

That’s all speculation. No doubt Stephen is an influence. He always has been in the same role and title he’s always held.

 

[Diehardblues]

That's rich coming from someone who, on another thread, writes ..."Yea, I heard the counter offer was for 37 million."

With no referencing whatsoever.

But I wasn’t quoting or Specifically saying Stephen said it.

 

[Diehardblues]

Just heard it on local radio this evening
Thats the best I can do at this stage.

Not really breaking news
We had heard it was in the range of 35/yr (5 yrs 175mil)
So....if it was 35.01 it would be highest. Wilson is highest at 4 years 140 (35/yr)

It would match the highest assuming you aren’t counting Mahommes.

There’s practically a new QB every year becoming the highest paid . Stafford did it in 2017. Romo did in 2013.

It’s basically more talking points than actually providing any substantial proof they are considered best QB simply cause they have the highest contract for a year. Jackson and Watson are expected to be near 40 million next year for example.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Perspective.

 

[Bobhaze]

Anyone that has been paying attention will know Stephen will be worse than Jerry. He has all of Jerry’s arrogance without any of his charm. Plus he is cheap.

And when you examine SJ’s qualifications as an NFL executive....he qualified for his job the night Jerry’s check to buy the team cleared the bank. Stephen Jones is the complete embodiment of why nepotism is unhealthy for an organization that is supposed to measure success by championship trophies instead of Forbes magazine trophies.

 

[cern]

Stephen doesn’t hire any of the HC’s. They’re all Jerry’s decision.

link?

 

[DFWJC]

It would match the highest assuming you aren’t counting Mahommes.

There’s practically a new QB every year becoming the highest-paid . Stafford did it in 2017. Romo did in 2013.

It’s basically more talking points than actually providing any substantial proof they are considered best QB simply cause they have the highest contract for a year. Jackson and Watson are expected to be near 40 million next year for example.

I hear you.
I did say if it was at all over 35/yr (35.01) it would top Wilson's. But yes, salaries tend to go up every year. If Stephen said it was highest, I assume it was very slightly over 35 per. Either way, Dak certainly was not low-balled in any way whatsoever.

The "next man up" always being paid more, regardless of if they deserve it was a ridiculous trap that the owners had fallen into anyway

At least Tannehill and Bridgewater didn't become the highest-paid in their new deals. lol
Nor Brady in his new deal
Nor Cousins in his new deal
Nor even Mahomes--at least in the equivalent first 5 years of his new deal

 

[cern]

Your mom read the sonnets to me, old fellow. She was really old.

say hello to miss vicky. now there are tulips that require your tiptoeing. you're a mean one, tiny tim. i would never make comments about another posters mom. or should i say mum?

 

[cern]

But I wasn’t quoting or Specifically saying Stephen said it.

weeping and gnashing of teeth or flapping lips and gums.

 

[Diehardblues]

weeping and gnashing of teeth or flapping lips and gums.

All you have is personal insults. It’s your only rebuttal. This is what you’ve been reduced to.

 

[Diehardblues]

I hear you.
I did say if it was at all over 35/yr (35.01) it would top Wilson's. But yes, salaries tend to go up every year. If Stephen said it was highest, I assume it was very slightly over 35 per. Either way, Dak certainly was not low-balled in any way whatsoever.

The "next man up" always being paid more, regardless of if they deserve it was a ridiculous trap that the owners had fallen into anyway

At least Tannehill and Bridgewater didn't become the highest-paid in their new deals. lol
Nor Brady in his new deal
Nor Cousins in his new deal
Nor even Mahomes--at least in the equivalent first 5 years of his new deal

I never said he was low balled or it wasn’t a fair offer.

You are absolutely correct that the next man up is paid more. It’s unfortunately part of the beast in NFL contracts for QB’s every year.

 

[cern]

All you have is personal insults. It’s your only rebuttal. This is what you’ve been reduced to.

who can i trust? you or my lying eyes?

 

[Diehardblues]

link?

The pages are limitless on links quoting Jerry who makes all decisions on coaching.

Jones made clear that he will make the final decisions about the Cowboys’ coaching staff,


“When you’re General Manager, which I am, those coaches are out there are my ultimate decision,” Jones said








https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...oaches-are-out-there-at-my-ultimate-decision/

 

[cern]

The pages are limitless on links quoting Jerry who makes all decisions on coaching.

Jones made clear that he will make the final decisions about the Cowboys’ coaching staff,


“When you’re General Manager, which I am, those coaches are out there are my ultimate decision,” Jones said








https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...oaches-are-out-there-at-my-ultimate-decision/

jerry has repeatedly stated his love of ambiguity.

 

[Diehardblues]

who can i trust? you or my lying eyes?

I’m not asking you to follow me. I’m simply presenting the outcry from the media and beat writers who report on the Cowboys.

I’ve been echoing the pulse of those who follow the Cowboys locally and closer to the situation. I don’t always agree but I’d certainly be more likely to trust them than the status quo being presented by our ownership.

I’ve been influenced by their insight and opinions. I’m not a fan that believes he is an Elite QB but these journalist have made some valid points which should be weighed heavily in the effects on our current situation , the effects moving forward of not locking up our QB not to mention the financial impact if we simply are waiting another year.

 

[Diehardblues]

jerry has repeatedly stated his love of ambiguity.

You like facts. Do we have any facts where Jerry is stating Stephen is making the coaching decisions or anyone else from our organization stating so?

Most likely it’s more speculative assertions without any factual confirmation.

 

[cern]

You like facts. Do we have any facts where Jerry is stating Stephen is making the coaching decisions or anyone else from our organization stating so?

Most likely it’s more speculative assertions without any factual confirmation.

jerry said romo will get his job back after healing from surgery in 2016. dak remains the starter.
jerry said dez would be a cowboy in 2018. stephen unceremoniously kicks dez out the door.
stephen publicly and openly berates garrett and his staff for their 1-11 showing in 2015 without romo. jerry says nothing.
stephen fires linehan just days after garrett proclaims he will remain the oc. direct slap in the face. he then names kellen moore the oc, also a slap in garrett's face and after firing almost the entire coaching staff at the end of last season, retains moore as the oc. note there were no press conferences or effusive praise of garrett. just a quiet and unceremonious expiration of his contract coming to pass. these aren't little moves. they're major moves effecting the organization as we go forward. sometimes just good old fashioned common sense is enough.