You Think Dak Stinks Question

Super_Kazuya

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Very well said.

Dak set the ceiling for what a rookie QB in the NFL can accomplish since he had the greatest rookie QB season in NFL history.

I don’t much like our chances of getting that kind of production again from a rookie, even with a #1 pick.
He didn’t have the greatest rookie QB season ever, or anywhere close to it. He’s a dink and dunk guy who was propped up by his teammates. He had 3 game manager seasons and 1 outlier season fueled by garbage time. The hyperbole is stupid. He can be replaced by literally anyone with a pulse who can stand in a clean pocket and throw to wide open guys.
My only hope is that when he’s gone that the weird trolls on this site like you follow him to wherever it is he ends up. Because while Dak may or may not be missed, you certainly won’t.
 

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It depends on what you want to do i guess, since you have already paid the RB, WR and the O-line you may only be left with gambling at the QB position for sure....but know this of the 5 QB's who have won Superbowls on their rookie contracts Mahomes is the only one who didn't have a ridiculous defense carrying the team, I see no sign's of the Cowboys defense carrying the team anytime soon.

I can only recall one ridiculous defense, the 2013 Seahawks. Besides, if your QB is making 5 times less on a rookie deal, it's easier to bring in more talent.
 

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So you want to put a rookie QB in the starting lineup because he will be way cheaper than Dak?

And your answer to how effective he will be is "you never know'?

Despite the fact that no rookie quarterback in the 54 year history.....104 teams....has ever started a Super Bowl?.....and only 4 have ever started, and obviously lost, a conference championship game?

As reassuring as your answer is, we are talking about a 2 or 3 year window before salary cap and contract issues subtract from the Cowboys talent pool. This rookie QB would have to immediately perform at a very high level for the Cowboys to succeed and for our great trio of WR's to even be relevant.

What level of performance by this rookie QB would make you feel confident about his future as a franchise quarterback?

How about if that QB sets a rookie record for passer rating and completion percentage, would that satisfy you? What about throwing in the most wins in NFL history for a rookie starting quarterback, would that be enough? It might build up his confidence if he didn't throw any interceptions in his first five starts or would that be a tad unrealistic? He'd have to stay healthy of course, what about if he starts all 16 games, would that complete the kind of rookie QB we are looking for in the draft? Yes, of course, we forgot about mobility and the advantages of a QB running with the ball. as a rookie, I'm sure he'll need that.

C'mon, now. Let's be serious for a moment, okay? When has a team ever found a guy like that? We're just going to have to come up with a different plan. Any other ideas?



This 1000 times over...if your answer is get another rookie....your only pushing it farther out not closer
 

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I can only recall one ridiculous defense, the 2013 Seahawks. Besides, if your QB is making 5 times less on a rookie deal, it's easier to bring in more talent.


the patriots had great defense and if you think the giants won on eli then come on man....it was the defense..you can only make that statement tongue in cheek
 

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a mid tier qb who disappears in any game where he gets punched back can EASILY be replaced. Now whether or not you find a superstar or another average qb, only time will tell. We know what we have, I'm tired of needing everything to be perfect for him.
 

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He didn’t have the greatest rookie QB season ever, or anywhere close to it. He’s a dink and dunk guy who was propped up by his teammates. He had 3 game manager seasons and 1 outlier season fueled by garbage time. The hyperbole is stupid. He can be replaced by literally anyone with a pulse who can stand in a clean pocket and throw to wide open guys.
My only hope is that when he’s gone that the weird trolls on this site like you follow him to wherever it is he ends up. Because while Dak may or may not be missed, you certainly won’t.


lol do you believe the things you type.......... I can't imagine saying things that so clearly go against what is documented as fact....but sure keep selling your fiction
 

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He didn’t have the greatest rookie QB season ever, or anywhere close to it. He’s a dink and dunk guy who was propped up by his teammates. He had 3 game manager seasons and 1 outlier season fueled by garbage time. The hyperbole is stupid. He can be replaced by literally anyone with a pulse who can stand in a clean pocket and throw to wide open guys.
My only hope is that when he’s gone that the weird trolls on this site like you follow him to wherever it is he ends up. Because while Dak may or may not be missed, you certainly won’t.
:hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer:
 

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So you want to put a rookie QB in the starting lineup because he will be way cheaper than Dak?

And your answer to how effective he will be is "you never know'?

Despite the fact that no rookie quarterback in the 54 year history.....104 teams....has ever started a Super Bowl?.....and only 4 have ever started, and obviously lost, a conference championship game?

As reassuring as your answer is, we are talking about a 2 or 3 year window before salary cap and contract issues subtract from the Cowboys talent pool. This rookie QB would have to immediately perform at a very high level for the Cowboys to succeed and for our great trio of WR's to even be relevant.

What level of performance by this rookie QB would make you feel confident about his future as a franchise quarterback?

How about if that QB sets a rookie record for passer rating and completion percentage, would that satisfy you? What about throwing in the most wins in NFL history for a rookie starting quarterback, would that be enough? It might build up his confidence if he didn't throw any interceptions in his first five starts or would that be a tad unrealistic? He'd have to stay healthy of course, what about if he starts all 16 games, would that complete the kind of rookie QB we are looking for in the draft? Yes, of course, we forgot about mobility and the advantages of a QB running with the ball. as a rookie, I'm sure he'll need that.

C'mon, now. Let's be serious for a moment, okay? When has a team ever found a guy like that? We're just going to have to come up with a different plan. Any other ideas?

How many times have you heard the term correlation does not imply causation? Throughout all of those 54 years that a rookie QB never been to a SB, how many opportunities did they get while still playing on a very good team? And in those situations, did they not make it because the QB was a rookie, or because the other team was just better? I also didn't say we had to start the rookie right out of the gate. I'd start Dalton next year and let the rookie sit. Backup QBs have won SBs before when they were on championship caliber teams. Dallas has to be among the best teams in the league to win anything anyway, with or without Dak.
 

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Very well said.

Dak set the ceiling for what a rookie QB in the NFL can accomplish since he had the greatest rookie QB season in NFL history.

I don’t much like our chances of getting that kind of production again from a rookie, even with a #1 pick.
Shouldn’t that have been a sign to management that we need to make sure we go to him ASAP and lock him up soon as we can??

No, management is too smart for that. Management believes that sustained excellence was a fluke and more a reflection of its own excellence in “putting the pieces in place” so let’s just wait....
 

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the patriots had great defense and if you think the giants won on eli then come on man....it was the defense..you can only make that statement tongue in cheek

The Patriots? When? I don't ever remember them having a great defense. Good Ds, but never great. The Giants, yeah. I forgot about that 2007 Giants team.
 

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So you want to put a rookie QB in the starting lineup because he will be way cheaper than Dak?

And your answer to how effective he will be is "you never know'?

Despite the fact that no rookie quarterback in the 54 year history.....104 teams....has ever started a Super Bowl?.....and only 4 have ever started, and obviously lost, a conference championship game?

As reassuring as your answer is, we are talking about a 2 or 3 year window before salary cap and contract issues subtract from the Cowboys talent pool. This rookie QB would have to immediately perform at a very high level for the Cowboys to succeed and for our great trio of WR's to even be relevant.

What level of performance by this rookie QB would make you feel confident about his future as a franchise quarterback?

How about if that QB sets a rookie record for passer rating and completion percentage, would that satisfy you? What about throwing in the most wins in NFL history for a rookie starting quarterback, would that be enough? It might build up his confidence if he didn't throw any interceptions in his first five starts or would that be a tad unrealistic? He'd have to stay healthy of course, what about if he starts all 16 games, would that complete the kind of rookie QB we are looking for in the draft? Yes, of course, we forgot about mobility and the advantages of a QB running with the ball. as a rookie, I'm sure he'll need that.

C'mon, now. Let's be serious for a moment, okay? When has a team ever found a guy like that? We're just going to have to come up with a different plan. Any other ideas?
Maddeningly wonderful post.
 

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Shouldn’t that have been a sign to management that we need to make sure we go to him ASAP and lock him up soon as we can??

No, management is too smart for that. Management believes that sustained excellence was a fluke and more a reflection of its own excellence in “putting the pieces in place” so let’s just wait....

I completely agree.

Unfortunately Jerry has a history of overestimating his own excellence.
 

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A lot changes over the course of a season. Options nobody can see right now will emerge.

12 months ago who would have guessed Brady would be starting for Tampa and Rivers for Chicago.
 

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LOL... Dak is one of the most easily replaceable QBs in the league. Draft another fourth rounder, show him a video of future the future HOFers, All-Pros and Pro Bowlers on the offense. “These are the important pieces... not you. Do your job.”
If he flops, oh well... I guess we don’t get to go 8-8. Whatever will we do? People act like we’re breaking up the ‘96 Bulls.
Silly post.
 

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I have read the posts. I believe them to be unreasonable. But that's me. I am still in a show me state. But I am patient and believe good things are ahead for Dak. But this is not about me.

This is about..........

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So tell me how you would handle this. How will you jettison Dak? How will you replace him? How about the fact this team has been built and waiting on the perfect drafted guy will take several seasons? How will you reconcile that?

Truthfully not interested in your assessment of Dak. We can assume here if you actually respond to this you want him gone and you have your reasons

Tell me your plan. Vegas might not take action on anyone really having a plan. I think this is merely grousing.

But you are the GM with the team in its current situation.

How and where do you find the QB you think is a winner and how will you fit that guy into the cap.

Step up to the microphone. Let's hear it.
I don't think Dak stinks, I know he does. I saw Pam Oliver step away from him once, because of his smell. So yeah, he stinks.
 
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