Dez interest from multiple teams has Try out

birdwells1

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,738
Reaction score
3,945
I just get tired of people bashing the guy and speaking in absolutes about him being 'done'. I think he deserves better than that.

To me he is the Carmelo Anthony of the NFL, every talking head said the Melo was done they said that they wouldn't even have him on a 12 man roster now look. The NBA gms even got in on it, the man was out of the league and couldn't even get a workout but people that know sports knows that he could still give you 15 points a game.

The narrative was that Dez was done but if you look at the all the wrs and te numbers his last year they all were down. Dak was not where he is now back in Dez's last year, the person that got the most grief was Dez due to how polarizing he is, some were just waiting for him to fail.

Hopefully the all time leader in receiving tds in Dallas Cowboys history can catch on with a team and go out the way the Cowboys tried to do with Witten.
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,383
Reaction score
102,329
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Dez for awhile was as good as anyone ever at hitting pay dirt.

His greatest ability in my opinion. He was never the fastest guy or the best route runner, but he could out-jump, outfight, and out-physical the vast majority of cornerbacks out there. The jump balls gave him a distinct advantage.
 

OmerV

Well-Known Member
Messages
25,925
Reaction score
22,449
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
I don't see or hear "ego" at this point. Quite the contrary, I hear humility and contrition, and a guy genuinely just looking for an opportunity to find a fit and contribute however he can. Regarding the Cowboys, he said that he would play for the vet minimum. And by doing that, he would be agreeing to a one strike and you're gone situation, meaning that he knows that if he acts up even the slightest way, he's done.

To be honest, while I got passionate and at times a hothead and overly emotional, I never thought "ego" when it came to Dez Bryant.
I feel like anytime a player gets mad when plays don't go his way there is ego involved. But regardless of that, you are right about the passion, but the question is, can he really control it once the game starts so he is accepting of a 4th WR role, and even if he can, will he be the same player without the same mindset?
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,383
Reaction score
102,329
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
I feel like anytime a player gets mad when plays don't go his way there is ego involved. But regardless of that, you are right about the passion, but the question is, can he really control it once the game starts so he is accepting of a 4th WR role, and even if he can, will he be the same player without the same mindset?

I think it's a low risk, high reward proposition to find out. Heck, a team can bring him into camp and watch how he responds during practices and workouts. If he shows the slightest sign of a tantrum or pouting? Cut him, you tried, it didn't work, and you moved on. But I think the potential reward of having such a physical presence out there likely to be matched up with 3rd and 4th corners of safeties is worth that risk.
 

CATCH17

1st Round Pick
Messages
67,062
Reaction score
84,651
His greatest ability in my opinion. He was never the fastest guy or the best route runner, but he could out-jump, outfight, and out-physical the vast majority of cornerbacks out there. The jump balls gave him a distinct advantage.


Dez was also great at running after the catch but Garrett just didn't put him in a lot of those situations.

TO was like that too and Garrett wanted him to be Michael Irvin.
 

birdwells1

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,738
Reaction score
3,945
How is it odd to state true things about Bryant? The drops? The locker room and sideline problems? Not playing since 2017? Having only two teams actually showing any interest in him since 2017? Getting arrested for hitting his own mother? Being a desperation pickup by the saints? Just which of those are odd and not true?
.
.

He's not coming here so what does it matter to you if another teams signs him? That's like worrying about the home that you sold 3 years ago, it's not your problem anymore. This thread, in reality, should be for people that appreciate what he brought to the team the others should see the title and not participate.
 
Last edited:

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,383
Reaction score
102,329
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Dez was also great at running after the catch but Garrett just didn't put him in a lot of those situations.

TO was like that too and Garrett wanted him to be Michael Irvin.

Having receivers run in a straight line down the field all game long isn't the most creative of gameplans. But Dez (and every other receiver) will take the blame for that.
 

OmerV

Well-Known Member
Messages
25,925
Reaction score
22,449
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
I think it's a low risk, high reward proposition to find out. Heck, a team can bring him into camp and watch how he responds during practices and workouts. If he shows the slightest sign of a tantrum or pouting? Cut him, you tried, it didn't work, and you moved on. But I think the potential reward of having such a physical presence out there likely to be matched up with 3rd and 4th corners of safeties is worth that risk.
True enough
 

birdwells1

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,738
Reaction score
3,945
Having receivers run in a straight line down the field all game long isn't the most creative of gameplans. But Dez (and every other receiver) will take the blame for that.

I saw somewhere that Dez and Williams ran the most go (clear out) routes in the league, but people expect them to be fresh in the 4th quarter. Dez became the td leader under Jason Garretts watch, think about how great you have to be to do that.
 

joseephuss

Well-Known Member
Messages
27,907
Reaction score
6,808
How often are #4 receivers targeted per game? How often are 4 or 5 receiver sets utilized? I bet on average, those numbers are low across the league except for the Cardinals. I'm all for trying to get the best players available at all starting and backup positions, but I still wouldn't expect a lot from Dez if he did come to Dallas as the #4 WR. Not because of his talents(which I do think have declined some), but solely the role of the #4 guy isn't one that gets targeted a bunch. My expectations of anyone in the #4 WR for the Cowboys is going to be low. The Ravens or another team may want him as their #3 WR, which is a position that receives a higher amount of targets and involvement.
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,383
Reaction score
102,329
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
I saw somewhere that Dez and Williams ran the most go (clear out) routes in the league, but people expect them to be fresh in the 4th quarter. Dez became the td leader under Jason Garretts watch, think about how great you have to be to do that.

A big part of that was Romo's ability to improvise, audible, and overcome that inferior coaching.
 

kskboys

Well-Known Member
Messages
44,730
Reaction score
47,564
How often are #4 receivers targeted per game? How often are 4 or 5 receiver sets utilized? I bet on average, those numbers are low across the league except for the Cardinals. I'm all for trying to get the best players available at all starting and backup positions, but I still wouldn't expect a lot from Dez if he did come to Dallas as the #4 WR. Not because of his talents(which I do think have declined some), but solely the role of the #4 guy isn't one that gets targeted a bunch. My expectations of anyone in the #4 WR for the Cowboys is going to be low. The Ravens or another team may want him as their #3 WR, which is a position that receives a higher amount of targets and involvement.
Plus, the #4 and 5 WR's need to play ST's. That's why Noah is still a Cowboy.
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,383
Reaction score
102,329
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Plus, the #4 and 5 WR's need to play ST's. That's why Noah is still a Cowboy.

I think injuries have been what's kept Noah Brown around as a Cowboy. If he hadn't been hurt, he'd have been cut by now.

It's not like he's been a significant contributor on special teams.
 

kskboys

Well-Known Member
Messages
44,730
Reaction score
47,564
I think injuries have been what's kept Noah Brown around as a Cowboy. If he hadn't been hurt, he'd have been cut by now.

It's not like he's been a significant contributor on special teams.
They say that he is. Good blocker and tackler. I've heard him called a ST's demon. And "does the dirty work on running downs".
 

QuincyCarterEra

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,325
Reaction score
10,736
How often are #4 receivers targeted per game? How often are 4 or 5 receiver sets utilized? I bet on average, those numbers are low across the league except for the Cardinals. I'm all for trying to get the best players available at all starting and backup positions, but I still wouldn't expect a lot from Dez if he did come to Dallas as the #4 WR. Not because of his talents(which I do think have declined some), but solely the role of the #4 guy isn't one that gets targeted a bunch. My expectations of anyone in the #4 WR for the Cowboys is going to be low. The Ravens or another team may want him as their #3 WR, which is a position that receives a higher amount of targets and involvement.

WR4s don't get targeted much, but why does that matter to the conversation?
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,383
Reaction score
102,329
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
They say that he is. Good blocker and tackler. I've heard him called a ST's demon. And "does the dirty work on running downs".

The numbers do not support that talk.

But yes, he has been a 'blocking WR' out there. But I'm not sure that the league values that enough for a roster spot. My bet is that his chances left town with Garrett.
 

gjkoeppen

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,703
Reaction score
3,327
He's not coming here so what does it matter to you if another teams signs him? That's like worrying about the home that you sold 3 years ago, it's not your problem anymore. This thread, in reality, should be for people that appreciate what he brought to the team the others should see the title and not participate.



I see you're another one that if comments aren't what you think we shouldn't be able to make them. So if anyone's opinion of Bryant isn't the same as yours we can't express them. I didn't know that you are the thread police that determines whether anyone can express their opinion about someone mentioned in the title of the thread.
.
.
 

birdwells1

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,738
Reaction score
3,945
I see you're another one that if comments aren't what you think we shouldn't be able to make them. So if anyone's opinion of Bryant isn't the same as yours we can't express them. I didn't know that you are the thread police that determines whether anyone can express their opinion about someone mentioned in the title of the thread.
.
.

I wasn't a big fan of Witten the last few years he was here, if someone had a thread about him signing with the Raiders i wouldn't post my feeling there due to the "if I don't have anything good to say then don't say nothing at all" way I was raised. Now if Witten is still on the team then I will express my opinion but he's with the raiders now and to me he's someone else issue. Last year I didn't want him on the team, what did the team do, they released him, I'm satisfied so what else is there for me to talk about concerning him? I got what i wanted. It's not personal with Witten I just thought that relationships were the only thing that kept him here and that should not be the reason but it was not personal. I really don't care what he does with the raiders he could have a good year or bad it really doesn't matter.

With Dez some wanted him gone and that's fair, y'all got what y'all wanted but when you care enough to come in and post negative about him trying out for another team to me you care too much personally. It has nothing to do with the Cowboys so what does it matter to you.

I'll leave you with this THE OPPOSITE OF LOVE IS NOT HATE BUT INDIFFERENCE.
 
Top