Are Cowboys over invested at receiver?

[Diehardblues]

Forcing a pick off of need gets you Taco Charltons and Deion Jordans. There wasn't a comparable pick, for the foreseeable future, that would have had a greater impact than Lamb. Remember, Dallas was having some serious red zone scoring issues?

It just so happens that they have been drafting balanced, as a few posters have pointed out, it's just Dallas has had a far better ROI statistically speaking compared to the defense.

It would be one thing if the Cowboys had taken 5 WRs with the last 5 first round picks. You can't nit pick bad luck on the defenders drafted amd hold it against the team, pretending like they're avoiding addressing anything other than the Safety position.

If our efforts of picks have failed on our defense then we must make more effort. Must continue swinging .

How many teams use a 1st round pick fir a WR the same off season they pay their WR1 top 5 money?

Lamb was a luxury pick not a pick of need with 2 strong starting receivers. And with so many needs on defense.

This certainly doesn’t look like a recipe for success.

 

[Melonfeud]

#make#88greatagain

 

[Diehardblues]

Watson is saddled with garbage O’Brien, who traded Hopkins for peanuts, and a garbage OL that can’t protect and hasn’t protected him for years. O’Brien should have been fired years ago.

Texans drew the toughest schedule for first 3 games
@Chiefs
Ravens
@Steelers

 

[Big_D]

It's Jerry's favorite position!

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Not really we're only paying one guy any real money.

 

[Bobhaze]

This isn’t a popular opinion, but I was totally against resigning Cooper at market value. I’m not saying he’s overpaid- he’s getting what the market dictates. We just should have let him hit the market because we need so much on defense, and his value to the team isn’t what it was in 2018 or 2019. (Many SB teams don’t have a highly paid WR. The chiefs were the exception last year)

The cost of having Cooper is not worth the cap hit IMO. And he’s hurt all the time. Cedric Wilson and Noah Brown may develop into very solid players at a price well below what we are paying for Cooper. We need to get his big contract off the books. It won’t happen though. Jerry loves him some WRs.

No disrespect meant to Cooper. But we don’t need him as much as we need help at other positions. Probably can’t happen now. But next year?

 

[Big_D]

This isn’t a popular opinion, but I was totally against resigning Cooper at market value. I’m not saying he’s overpaid- he’s getting what the market dictates. We just should have let him hit the market because we need so much on defense, and his value to the team isn’t what it was in 2018 or 2019. (Many SB teams don’t have a highly paid WR. The chiefs were the exception last year)

The cost of having Cooper is not worth the cap hit IMO. And he’s hurt all the time. Cedric Wilson and Noah Brown may develop into very solid players at a price well below what we are paying for Cooper. We need to get his big contract off the books. It won’t happen though. Jerry loves him some WRs.

No disrespect meant to Cooper. But we don’t need him as much as we need help at other positions. Probably can’t happen now. But next year?

But not signing him would've made the trade even more ridiculous than it already was.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Quinn, Collins and Heath.

And you would've brought all 3 of those guys back?


"Maliek Collins will play better, Jon Gruden assures after his disappointing start to 2020 season"
Jeff Heath has 1 tackle on the season
Aldon Smith>Robert Quinn

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This isn’t a popular opinion, but I was totally against resigning Cooper at market value. I’m not saying he’s overpaid- he’s getting what the market dictates. We just should have let him hit the market because we need so much on defense, and his value to the team isn’t what it was in 2018 or 2019. (Many SB teams don’t have a highly paid WR. The chiefs were the exception last year)

The cost of having Cooper is not worth the cap hit IMO. And he’s hurt all the time. Cedric Wilson and Noah Brown may develop into very solid players at a price well below what we are paying for Cooper. We need to get his big contract off the books. It won’t happen though. Jerry loves him some WRs.

No disrespect meant to Cooper. But we don’t need him as much as we need help at other positions. Probably can’t happen now. But next year?

Cowboys invested a 1st round pick in Cooper. When you do that and the guy is productive you have to bring him back. And I love Wilson and Brown......but let's don't kid ourselves...Cooper is our best receiver. Better than Gallup and Lamb. Maybe that will change 2 years from now.

 

[Diehardblues]

And you would've brought all 3 of those guys back?


"Maliek Collins will play better, Jon Gruden assures after his disappointing start to 2020 season"
Jeff Heath has 1 tackle on the season
Aldon Smith>Robert Quinn

Im just presenting these for discussion. When we say we didn’t let anyone of value walk that’s an arguable position.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Quinn, Collins and Heath.

I could understand heath because at least he was assignment sound. Quinn , was awesome but there was no way to afford him. Collins was just a terrible player.

 

[Bobhaze]

But not signing him would've made the trade even more ridiculous than it already was.

You can’t chase a move like that. It was never going to be a long term good move anyway. When Gallup developed and they drafted Lamb, Cooper became an over priced luxury. That trade was ok in 2018 only because they parlayed it into a playoff spot and WC win. But I don’t see it as a good long term investment.

 

[Diehardblues]

Cowboys invested a 1st round pick in Cooper. When you do that and the guy is productive you have to bring him back. And I love Wilson and Brown......but let's don't kid ourselves...Cooper is our best receiver. Better than Gallup and Lamb. Maybe that will change 2 years from now.

Then if we make that investment and have these others how do we justify another shiny toy ( Lamb)at the position that’s already strong with so many weaknesses at other positions?

 

[Bobhaze]

Cowboys invested a 1st round pick in Cooper. When you do that and the guy is productive you have to bring him back. And I love Wilson and Brown......but let's don't kid ourselves...Cooper is our best receiver. Better than Gallup and Lamb. Maybe that will change 2 years from now.

Cooper has been really good. But I would argue Gallup is close to being the best receiver now. And he costs about $17 million less a year. Just my opinion, as good as Cooper is, he’s not the key to a turnaround here.

 

[Big_D]

You can’t chase a move like that. It was never going to be a long term good move anyway. When Gallup developed and they drafted Lamb, Cooper became an over priced luxury. That trade was ok in 2018 only because they parlayed into a playoff spot and WC win. But I don’t see it as a good long term investment.

It wasn't a good long term investment. Giving up that 5 year rookie deal specially for a year and a half. He's a good WR but his stats don't justify the move. Didn't then, certainly doesn't now.

 

[Diehardblues]

I could understand heath because at least he was assignment sound. Quinn , was awesome but there was no way to afford him. Collins was just a terrible player.

I’m not arguing their individual talents. I’m arguing we didn’t place as much importance on retaining defensive starters as we did on offense.

These may look like good decisions on the face but when you have a defense that appears the cause of a failed season then they become more questionable moves and fair game for criticism.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

You can’t chase a move like that. It was never going to be a long term good move anyway. When Gallup developed and they drafted Lamb, Cooper became an over priced luxury. That trade was ok in 2018 only because they parlayed into a playoff spot and WC win. But I don’t see it as a good long term investment.

There’s an out after the 2021 season with Coopers contract. The majority of his guaranteed money will be long gone. The contract is okay for this season and next because you’re not paying any other WR big money.

 

[Bobhaze]

There’s an out after the 2021 season with Coopers contract. The majority of his guaranteed money will be long gone. The contract is okay for this season and next because you’re not paying any other WR big money.

I think it’s a huge waste of cap space on a team desperate for some quality on defense.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

I think it’s a huge waste of cap space on a team desperate for some quality on defense.

The Cowboys have 20+ million of unused Cap space right now. So you would have preferred to let Cooper walk? I can see that. But , the front office would’ve gave up a 1st round pick for a year and a half of play. You knew they weren’t going to let that happen.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Are Cowboys over invested at receiver?

Our secondary is a mess.

No. The Cowboys weren't going DB anyway. The pick was going to be Lamb all along. You don't pass on top 10 talent. They went CB in the 2nd round and 4th round.