Twitter: Scott Pioli, former NFL GM, three major consequences of 2021 projected cap decrease

[PAPPYDOG]

Not taking the 5 year, 175-185 million dollar offer looks more and more crazy to me.

but not my choice

Yep, those Dak-Tears were the real deal.
Greedy Prescott gambled and fell flat on his ankle!

 

[Cwby41]

It was not the money Dak had a problem with. It was the years.

True but it was the Money. He wanted to be a FA again and cash out a second time.Personally I like the way Maholmes deal is structured. Im not in any way comparing Dak to him but a 10 yr contract, lock up your guy pay him well and have some release triggers later on.Security for both and you keep your guy. KC has a special guy in PM so easier to do but great move on their part

 

[Jipper]

Yep, those Dak-Tears were the real deal.
Greedy Prescott gambled and fell flat on his ankle!

He was greedy and he gambled and lost but I hope you and others aren’t happy he got hurt....he seems like a very good guy that just got some really bad advice from his agent

 

[AKATheRake]

jerry is an ILLUMINATIST

 

[Colombiacowboy]

I don't trust the Jones and this Front Office's ability to properly assess and address the talent deficiencies on this roster. They've proven over the last 25 years to constantly ignore glaring needs and a stubbornness in giving multiple chances to players they have anointed (overpaid and overdrafted).

However, one thing I will give the Jones' credit for is what I call "creative financing"

If they can sign Dak to a similarly-structured (but lower) contract to what Mahomes signed and do their typical restructures (Martin, Smith, Collins, Amari, Zeke, etc), they have a real opportunity to add significant talent in both the draft and free agency this off-season.

The issue will be, will they continue to throw money at washed up free agents (HaHa Clinton-Dix, Dontari Poe) or will they sign players who can actually improve the team (Justin Simmons, Dalvin Tomlinson).

I am not sure I can agree with you on the "creative financing" as that very principle has cash strapped the Cowboys for years and years and actually prohibited them from going after some of the WORTHY big name free agents. When you "creatively finance" yet still over pay...I would call that lunacy.

 

[Adreme]

Yep, those Dak-Tears were the real deal.
Greedy Prescott gambled and fell flat on his ankle!

You realize he will get far more than that now easily. That was a gamble that will have paid off by a significant margin.

 

[Adreme]

True but it was the Money. He wanted to be a FA again and cash out a second time.Personally I like the way Maholmes deal is structured. Im not in any way comparing Dak to him but a 10 yr contract, lock up your guy pay him well and have some release triggers later on.Security for both and you keep your guy. KC has a special guy in PM so easier to do but great move on their part

Mahomes deal is basically a 5-year-deal though where they have to extend him again after to fix the cap situation and so he will get to cash in again.

 

[Adreme]

The way GMs will handle the cap is very simple. They will restructure like crazy any player who they can because the cap will simply skyrocket the year after so they may as well spread out the money. While this is a strategy a lot of competitive teams have been doing already, it will be almost expected at this point so that teams can maintain their current guys.

Meanwhile the actual new contracts will continue to grow as though the cap did not change at all because every single person will view this as a blip and assume the expected growth will still happen.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

You realize he will get far more than that now easily. That was a gamble that will have paid off by a significant margin.

Sorry, I do not as I don't reside in Dak Lovers fantasy land.

 

[Adreme]

Sorry, I do not as I don't reside in Dak Lovers fantasy land.

In know in the hater fantasy land he somehow lost, but over here in reality where there is plenty of historical evidence to decide these things Dak came out WAY ahead as waiting almost always does.

The fact that historically injuries to a franchise QB, especially when it is their first, do not lower their value (multiple pieces of evidence to this) AND that the entire offense went from being historically good, to completely inept the moment he went down. Him going down answered the question of whether it was the Cowboys or Dak carrying the offense and that raised his value.

Sorry that reality doesn't jive with the hater narrative, but I am sure there are plenty of other things to mindlessly hate.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

In know in the hater fantasy land he somehow lost, but over here in reality where there is plenty of historical evidence to decide these things Dak came out WAY ahead as waiting almost always does.

The fact that historically injuries to a franchise QB, especially when it is their first, do not lower their value (multiple pieces of evidence to this) AND that the entire offense went from being historically good, to completely inept the moment he went down. Him going down answered the question of whether it was the Cowboys or Dak carrying the offense and that raised his value.

Sorry that reality doesn't jive with the hater narrative, but I am sure there are plenty of other things to mindlessly hate.

The only Hate here resides in your heart!
This is about football so snap out of your hatred filled world.
First, he's average at best and coming off a MAJOR injury on a cap restricted team.
And you state they're going to pay him more now?
LOL....Ok, bud GL with that.

 

[Adreme]

The only Hate here resides in your heart!
This is about football so snap out of your hatred filled world.
First, he's average at best and coming off a MAJOR injury on a cap restricted team.
And you state they're going to pay him more now?
LOL....Ok, bud GL with that.

The team is not going to be that cap restricted especially because they are already under and every competent GM will simply be using signing bonuses to get around the odd cap blip that is next year.

As for the injury, there is a QB who was basically a bust for the first few years of his career so much so that his former team drafted his replacement high in the draft and the only reason he kept his starting job was because the drafted QB held out. He then went on to be a PB alternate for the first time and then the next year take a small step back before having a serious injury to his throwing shoulder which as a QB is kind of important. He STILL got paid a lot of money, from a different team but a lot of guaranteed money.

That is a less of a pedigree than Dak has and medicine has come further in the past 15 years. Dak was making the offense look historically great and suddenly you replace him with a below-average QB and the offense completely fell apart. These are facts.

So yes either the Cowboys pay him more or someone else does. There are no shortage of teams who would pay for a QB this offseason. He won his bet.

 

[Motorola]

True but it was the Money. He wanted to be a FA again and cash out a second time.Personally I like the way Maholmes deal is structured. Im not in any way comparing Dak to him but a 10 yr contract, lock up your guy pay him well and have some release triggers later on.Security for both and you keep your guy. KC has a special guy in PM so easier to do but great move on their part

And Maholmes is cashing in on his on-the-field success with big-time endorsements

 

[catiii]

The cap will take a hit next year, but will rebound with new tv deal and gambling money. I expect to see some creative contract negotiations for next year with a lot of restructuring the following year.

Yeah the refs inject a LOT of that.

 

[Ken]

It was not the money Dak had a problem with. It was the years.

i get it but my point remains.

 

[jterrell]

I think he means the non exclusive tag, I think it is a good way to go and wish it was done this year then there is no doubt to his worth and they could of saved some $$$ or matched the offer if any.

Again, this is dumb.
A team could then have built any number of poison pills into the deal and made it nearly impossible or stomach revolting to match.
A franchise QB has NEVER been on non-exclusive franchise tag in NFL history.
The move would have saved approximately 4M and removed the entire reason he was tagged in the first place, total team control.
Dallas would have lost all leverage and Dak's agent would then had been free to go get someone to give Dak a deal that burned Dallas alive.
Two first round picks don't mean much if they are for a team drafting in the late 20s.

 

[ESisback]

Do you mean Dak?

Because he made that decision long before the pandemic. Hindsight is always easy....

True, but now the owners have more leverage, don’t they? Players will think “Who knows what’s gonna happen? I’d better grab it while I can!”

Of course, Dak’s ALREADY a millionaire, so...

 

[Future]

True, but now the owners have more leverage, don’t they? Players will think “Who knows what’s gonna happen? I’d better grab it while I can!”

Of course, Dak’s ALREADY a millionaire, so...

Maybe for 21 and 22. Everyone knows that the cap is still going to explode with the network deals.

The revenue issue is a short-term one, not a long-term one, and mid-tier vets are already being priced out all over the place.

 

[jterrell]

True, but now the owners have more leverage, don’t they? Players will think “Who knows what’s gonna happen? I’d better grab it while I can!”

For the rank and file player this is true.
But it is ALWAYS true.
Average NFL players have always lived for the guarantee.
Because most contracts after the rookie deal aren't being completed.
Those big numbers at end are being lopped off.

The issue is in this thread people want to extrapolate what Pioli said to franchise QBs and it doesn't and won't apply.

It also doesn't factor that this is a 1 year blip on the radar.
And that cheapskate owners who are overly concerned here haven't really been the kind of guys to hand out massive restructure paychecks previously anyway.
That list almost certainly will grow but it won't be league-wide or close to league-wide.
Teams who see benefit of playoff runs and money made will spend.
Their spending has largely been rewarded with increased revenue.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

He was greedy and he gambled and lost but I hope you and others aren’t happy he got hurt....he seems like a very good guy that just got some really bad advice from his agent

Dak's a good guy, not happy he hurt himself but no way was he worth the contract Jerry was offering him - glad he turned it down or else it would really hamstring the Cowboys. Oh and FYI, Romo wasn't worth the contract that was handed to him either.