Schultz has earned TE1

[kskboys]

Meh, he's so limited as a receiver it's easy to upgrade.

Still Jarwin's spot to lose.

You must be on meds.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

In Jarwin's entire career, he has had basically the exact same production Schultz had this season.

Schultz is the more valuable commodity in my book, he has proven he can capably start and perform well for an entire season.

schultz is a better blocker....and he is a better route runner. Jarwin is defintley more athletic and faster....Schultz is a chain mover, gets you those underneath stuff, make the tough catch and gets some YAC and gets first downs...a security blanket of sorts...Jarwin is more of a down field threat specially up the middle, as he is not really that good on the sidelines....these two complement each other specially for 2 TE sets.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Pitts is a real talent I wouldn't pass on him if he's clearly better than the defensive players left on the board.

how much better is Pitts than Jarwin and Schultz. and how much better will the offense be with Pitts. how many more points will he translate into vs. if we picked a defensive player, how much better would the defense be?

 

[kskboys]

sorry No comparison to young Witten who consistently beat LBs and safeties even the pro bowlers.
Schultz didn't shake and juke coverage guys in one on one near on a level that Witten did.

Plus Witten was a very good in-line blocker in Prime of his career ; nether Schultz or Jarwin are effective in line blockers.

And you're right, he will suit our offense just fine and adequately.. until Jarwin's healthy return.
Schultz worked well with sensing openings in zones and working underneath in moving the chains, but he doesn't have Jarwiin's quicks and ability to race the deep middle seams.

Shake and juke coverage guys? Man, you have you some rose colored glasses there!!!

I'm a huge Witten fan. Shaking and juking was not his strong suit.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

If Pitts is “clearly” the best player on the board with our top pick I wouldn’t be opposed to taking him. I don’t want to see us reach for a defensive player ala Greg Ellis because we have a need. The most important thing with your top pick is ending up with the best player possible regardless of position. Reaching for needs leads to big mistakes. I’m hearing there’s no great defensive players in the top 10.

I would rather then trade down and get more picks....my question is if we add Pitts, how many more points does that translate to on offense? vs. having two defensive players added.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

One of the biggest bright spots this season was the emergence of Dalton Schultz, who has proven to be a formidable TE and of starter quality. No reason to waste a top draft pick on a TE, give Schultz the offseason to improve even further and we got ourselves a reliable TE.

What people don't talk about with Shultz is his crazy ability to break tackles. Don't know how many times he was 5-8 years short of the first with 3 defenders there and here somehow gets the first.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You don't pass up on elite talent for 2nd tier defensive players. That's how you get Taco Charlton.
And Dallas offense as it currently sits can and have been shut down by good defenses.
Pitts will have a huge impact on this offense.
You will get a comparable defensive player in the second round that will be just as likely to be as good as anyone you take in the first round.

given our offense is already potent....I would rather trade the pick, even for future picks......we need 7 new starters and a whole lot of depth on defense....we need as many as we can get and I think this year's draft is going to have a lot of suprises in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round because of lack of games and some players who peak in their last year didn't get a chance and probably will fall in the draft...

I am not sure about Pitts impact on offense, if he has impact, then we are taking away from Gallup, CD and Cooper....assuming you throw the ball 35 times a game....there is only so many catches to go around.....so how many more points will Pitts translate to and whose play will decline because now pitts will get more balls.....

 

[JoeKing]

One of the biggest bright spots this season was the emergence of Dalton Schultz, who has proven to be a formidable TE and of starter quality. No reason to waste a top draft pick on a TE, give Schultz the offseason to improve even further and we got ourselves a reliable TE.

Have you forgotten about Blake Jarwin? I don't think a TE was going to be drafted anyway. But Jarwin and Schultz will get a chance in training camp to earn the TE1 position.

 

[RonnieT24]

how much better is Pitts than Jarwin and Schultz. and how much better will the offense be with Pitts. how many more points will he translate into vs. if we picked a defensive player, how much better would the defense be?

All good questions.. I think Pitts in this offense would be an absolute monster.. I'm talking Gronkowski type numbers monster.. He's such a big, fast, athletic pass catcher that it's hard to imagine any team being able to match up with him. But with that NBA frame of his he aint blockin nobody. So he becomes more of a really tall receiver than a tight end to me. Maybe as he fills out and bulks up a bit he could evolve into more of a blocker but those first two years he's going to be a liability if asked to block. And if you take him that high you aint puttin him on the bench to watch.. And it still doesn't help the defense at all. For that reason I would take any comparable defensive talent if it's even remotely close.

 

[Hardline]

given our offense is already potent....I would rather trade the pick, even for future picks......we need 7 new starters and a whole lot of depth on defense....we need as many as we can get and I think this year's draft is going to have a lot of suprises in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round because of lack of games and some players who peak in their last year didn't get a chance and probably will fall in the draft...

I am not sure about Pitts impact on offense, if he has impact, then we are taking away from Gallup, CD and Cooper....assuming you throw the ball 35 times a game....there is only so many catches to go around.....so how many more points will Pitts translate to and whose play will decline because now pitts will get more balls.....

The problem loading up on defense just for the sake of drafting defense is this is a weak defensive draft class.
There will be defense in the later rounds pretty much just as good as what you can get in the first round.

 

[GMO415]

Time to run the Gronk / A Hernandez offense.

 

[RandyOh]

I dont know about passing up on a talent like Pitts just because you are desperate for defensive help in a draft class weak with blue chip defensive talent. If the corners, DTs, or LBs are not much better then the ones sitting with day 2 grades, then you have to take a talent like Pitts.

 

[Silly]

I think he tackles better than Smith too. Put in a LB!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You don't pass up on elite talent for 2nd tier defensive players. That's how you get Taco Charlton.
And Dallas offense as it currently sits can and have been shut down by good defenses.
Pitts will have a huge impact on this offense.
You will get a comparable defensive player in the second round that will be just as likely to be as good as anyone you take in the first round.

You guys said this about Zeke...."you don't pass up elite talent".....and yes you do do it. Fact is, we don't know what these guys will turn out being.

You know what people said about our 1st round pick in 2013? People said we made a mistake drafting Fredericks who some people had as a projected 3rd round pick...some 2nd round....

You are drafting guys by prospect....you don't have a crystal ball in what these guys will be because every single year we see these "re draft" posts where guys who were picked later on in the draft would go top 10 in the draft.

You will not get a Micah Parsons or a Pat Surtain in the 2nd round I don't know what you are talking about...who exactly do you think will be there at #10 for us in a top 10 where many offensive players are projected to go early?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I dont know about passing up on a talent like Pitts just because you are desperate for defensive help in a draft class weak with blue chip defensive talent. If the corners, DTs, or LBs are not much better then the ones sitting with day 2 grades, then you have to take a talent like Pitts.

They said that about TJ Watt...........these scouts and mock drafters get too cute. They take this fantasy football approach rather than watch actual film and there are plenty of guys on this defense who can start for us and you know what? Those 1st two picks should be defense anyway so double up in the 2nd.....hell the whole draft should be defense.

 

[Mr_437]

Take a "TE" in the 1st round...some of you have lost your freaking minds, did y'all see the historically bad defense? Your answer is draft more offense SMH.

Go defense heavy! I'd take a OT waaaayyy before a TE. Jarwin n Shultz are more than enough besides the ball needs to go mainly to the Cowboys 3 WRs in the passing game.

 

[817Gill]

Take a "TE" in the 1st round...some of you have lost your freaking minds, did y'all see the historically bad defense? Your answer is draft more offense SMH.

Go defense heavy! I'd take a OT waaaayyy before a TE. Jarwin n Shultz are more than enough besides the ball needs to go mainly to the Cowboys 3 WRs in the passing game.

Exactly. I was about to write the same thing lol these fools must be crazy. How can you justify drafting a 3rd starting TE when you have 0 starting caliber 1T’s, 0 starting FS’s, and only 1 starting outside CB. Not to mention no production from your LB’s.

The tight ends did great this year, we wanna add a 1st rounder to the position group that you can’t even use them all at once? Blasphemous

 

[Melonfeud]

He is really good at his job and he’s not terrible at getting vertical but he can eat up all the underneath coverage.

I’m still shocked that I’m saying this but Schultz is not a jag. He’s an above average NFL TE.


I think he was the biggest surprise of the season for me.

*It was the metamorphosis of our #88 that garnered my amazement as the season progressed,as it seemed he either grabbed that nitrous oxide boosted overdrive gear,,,or,,, simply just flushed that rookie timidity straight down the crapper,real quick, like in just the course of a two week span it appeared
( to me, anyway) that he was sporting about +25% extra strength,speed& plain ol' ball hawking aggression *

 

[cern]

Give him his due. Well deserved. But allow jarwin to challenge for the starting position next year. Competition makes everyone better.

 

[RandyOh]

They said that about TJ Watt...........these scouts and mock drafters get too cute. They take this fantasy football approach rather than watch actual film and there are plenty of guys on this defense who can start for us and you know what? Those 1st two picks should be defense anyway so double up in the 2nd.....hell the whole draft should be defense.

No Marinelli said TJ Watt didnt fit as a 4-3 end and reached for a lesser rushing talent in Taco to fit the need instead of taking the obvious better talent. Im all for defense, but im not reaching for another Taco Charlton to make sure we get a position of need.