Twitter: KC: Dak must reach playoffs consistently if he's paid premium QB money

[CowboyoWales]

Only it has lined up. Almost word for word. Most thought Dak would have signed long term by now, but thats coming. A slight delay. Fact remains he is here and will be for a long time. Tissues?

You need to read my signature, which has been visible by at least 6 months.

Unfortunately, there's the polarized view (which your message seems to agree with and confirms) that this is a love/hate Dak situation.

This is not about individuals. it's about the Cowboys and how we break the cycle of continuing the problems of relying on shiny pieces like Romo/Dak whilst crippling our ability to build a team as we're forced to restructure bad contracts.

 

[lostar2009]

Hard to reach the playoffs when your coaching staff always screwing up games.

 

[Diehardblues]

I dont blame these guys for getting as much as they can and yes Dak would fall into a catagory of a franchise QB. Would fans here be happy if Dallas traded for Kirk Cousins and paid him 35 mil a year. Thats basically what your getting. The thing about paying the QB is if you use the term franchise QB its such a black and white term that it erases the idea that the better a player is the more he should make.

It’s all about timing. The amount a QB makes doesn't necessarily depend on his ranking or status in the league. He mostly just needs to be in this “ franchise QB “ status in order to receive one of these closer to the top contracts.

NFL's highest paid quarterbacks (average salary per year):

• 1. Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes: $45 million
• 2. Texans QB Deshaun Watson: $39 million
• 2. Seahawks QB Russell Wilson: $35 million
• 3. Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger: $34 million
• 4.Packers QB Aaron Rodgers: $33.5 million
• 4. Rams QB Jared Goff: $33.5 million
• 6. Vikings QB Kirk Cousins: $33 million
• 7. Eagles QB Carson Wentz: $32 million
• 8. Cowboys QB Dak Prescott: $$30.1 million
• 0. Falcons QB Matt Ryan: $30 million
• 10. Titans QB Ryan Tannehill: $29.5 million
• 
  This list doesn’t reflect any kind of pecking order overall according to their talent level. It’s more about the timing of their contracts. And this list changes basically on a year to year basis depending on new contracts not the level of their talent. The highest paid is more a reflection of most recent contracts . Sometimes it can currently reflect the pecking order but that’s not always the case. It changes over the duration of their contracts.
  
  
• And why we shouldn’t be alarmed if Dak receives one of the highest per annum contracts cause in a year or two it will have dropped considerably in the pecking order. It’s why he only wanted a 4 year contract cause he knows by then he’ll have dropped down the list.

 

[CATCH17]

It’s all about timing. The amount a QB makes doesn't necessarily depend on his ranking or status in the league. He mostly just needs to be in this “ franchise QB “ status in order to receive one of these closer to the top contracts.

NFL's highest paid quarterbacks (average salary per year):

• 1. Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes: $45 million
• 2. Texans QB Deshaun Watson: $39 million
• 2. Seahawks QB Russell Wilson: $35 million
• 3. Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger: $34 million
• 4.Packers QB Aaron Rodgers: $33.5 million
• 4. Rams QB Jared Goff: $33.5 million
• 6. Vikings QB Kirk Cousins: $33 million
• 7. Eagles QB Carson Wentz: $32 million
• 8. Cowboys QB Dak Prescott: $$30.1 million
• 0. Falcons QB Matt Ryan: $30 million
• 10. Titans QB Ryan Tannehill: $29.5 million
• 
  This list doesn’t reflect any kind of pecking order overall according to their talent level. It’s more about the timing of their contracts. And this list changes basically on a year to year basis depending on new contracts not the level of their talent. The highest paid is more a reflection of most recent contracts . Sometimes it can currently reflect the pecking order but that’s not always the case. It changes over the duration of their contracts.
  
  
• And why we shouldn’t be alarmed if Dak receives one of the highest per annum contracts cause in a year or two it will have dropped considerably in the pecking order. It’s why he only wanted a 4 year contract cause he knows by then he’ll have dropped down the list.

You need to look at cap hits.

Dak has the largest cap hit this season.

Mahomes is 32nd.

 

[Diehardblues]

You need to look at cap hits.

Dak has the largest cap hit this season.

Mahomes is 32nd.

That doesn’t change my argument which I’m assuming you’re not disputing.

And I’m assuming Mahomes is low on the cap hit since his extension hadn’t kicked in yet, still on his Rookie contact.

 

[CATCH17]

That doesn’t change my argument which I’m assuming you’re not disputing.

And I’m assuming Mahomes is low on the cap hit since his extension hadn’t kicked in yet, still on his Rookie contact.

Nope.. Not disputing it at all.

I just don't want people to see that and be mislead by it.

 

[Rockport]

You need to look at cap hits.

Dak has the largest cap hit this season.

Mahomes is 32nd.

He played on the franschise tag. Guys, just ignore this guy. He's a Dak hating troll who does nothing but crap on Dak. Daily.

 

[Diehardblues]

Nope.. Not disputing it at all.

I just don't want people to see that and be mislead by it.

Be mislead by what?

That the highest current contracts doesn’t necessarily represent pecking order . QB contracts are driven more by current market than talent level.

Surely fans want all of the information in order to draw their own conclusions without simply spinning certain facts to support a narrative.

 

[Diehardblues]

He played on the franschise tag. Guys, just ignore this guy. He's a Dak hating troll who does nothing but crap on Dak. Daily.

Mahomes is low on the Cap hit cause he’s still on his Rookie contract and Dak is high cause of Franchise Tag in which none of his contract can be deferred in signing bonuses, etc.

 

[Starforever]

What I don't understand, about some of the gripes is, Dallas, just like every other team, has to pay their star players. Stars, do not bring championships, but it is what you put around the stars. That includes coaching, as well as, above average players. Good coaches can see talent that fits their system. Meh coaches, try to change players to fit their system. While some are good at doing both, others are not good at either. Every year, the quote is, "Dallas has talent", but that talent does not equate to quality play on the field.

Is there a quarterback out there that doesn't need a good defense though?

I think the problem in Dallas is, the team has flashed goodness, but it is not consistent. Coaching, and player leadership, is a problem on this team. To many "self motivated players", and not enough team players.

 

[Ranched]

If the Cowboys don’t bring Dak back & can’t afford to sign another qb in free agency, Darnold could be a great option as they look to see if he could thrive in their offense. He would have plenty of weapons to throw to in Lamb, Coop & Gallup. BOOM!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No. View Chris Jones bailing out Mahomes in the super bowl. He was the real MVP.

Yep! Nobody remembers how slow Mahomes started off that game. So if Mahomes team is stacked....Dak’s shouldn’t be?

 

[Rockport]

If the Cowboys don’t bring Dak back & can’t afford to sign another qb in free agency, Darnold could be a great option as they look to see if he could thrive in their offense. He would have plenty of weapons to throw to in Lamb, Coop & Gallup. BOOM!

The Cowboys will bring Dak back.

 

[Hadenough]

It’s all about timing. The amount a QB makes doesn't necessarily depend on his ranking or status in the league. He mostly just needs to be in this “ franchise QB “ status in order to receive one of these closer to the top contracts.

NFL's highest paid quarterbacks (average salary per year):

• 1. Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes: $45 million
• 2. Texans QB Deshaun Watson: $39 million
• 2. Seahawks QB Russell Wilson: $35 million
• 3. Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger: $34 million
• 4.Packers QB Aaron Rodgers: $33.5 million
• 4. Rams QB Jared Goff: $33.5 million
• 6. Vikings QB Kirk Cousins: $33 million
• 7. Eagles QB Carson Wentz: $32 million
• 8. Cowboys QB Dak Prescott: $$30.1 million
• 0. Falcons QB Matt Ryan: $30 million
• 10. Titans QB Ryan Tannehill: $29.5 million
• 
  This list doesn’t reflect any kind of pecking order overall according to their talent level. It’s more about the timing of their contracts. And this list changes basically on a year to year basis depending on new contracts not the level of their talent. The highest paid is more a reflection of most recent contracts . Sometimes it can currently reflect the pecking order but that’s not always the case. It changes over the duration of their contracts.
  
  
• And why we shouldn’t be alarmed if Dak receives one of the highest per annum contracts cause in a year or two it will have dropped considerably in the pecking order. It’s why he only wanted a 4 year contract cause he knows by then he’ll have dropped down the list.

I totally get that but I don't agree with that way of thinking. I just don't view Dak as better than anyone on that list and he wants to be paid more than half the guys on the list.
Performance is at the top of my list and it's more about what if you done. The only dud on that list is Wentz but he will turn it around because he is too talented and the right coach will harness that talent. Dak is up against his ceiling. I fully expect Dallas to sign him and it will be because of his marketing ability not his performance.

 

[ShaneFalco]

If the Cowboys don’t bring Dak back & can’t afford to sign another qb in free agency, Darnold could be a great option as they look to see if he could thrive in their offense. He would have plenty of weapons to throw to in Lamb, Coop & Gallup. BOOM!

Some scenario like this is coming.
Tagged QBs never get resigned by the team that tags them. Ever.
Plus DAL simply doesn’t have any money, a terrible roster save a few positions and little options.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is still the 2020 season . I certainly still consider it this year or season.

I meant this could be his last big contract. And these Qb have to think as such. It doesn’t mean they don’t think they’ll be playing later on. Your reading too much into it.

It would not be a 2020 season contract. Any deal that is signed now would impact the 2021 cap so again, it's not a 2020 deal.

When you ask a question, it's actually the exact opposite of "reading into" something. It's asking for clarification. These QBs can think of things however they wish. Doesn't mean they are worth it or that the team should pay it.

 

[Diehardblues]

I totally get that but I don't agree with that way of thinking. I just don't view Dak as better than anyone on that list and he wants to be paid more than half the guys on the list.
Performance is at the top of my list and it's more about what if you done. The only dud on that list is Wentz but he will turn it around because he is too talented and the right coach will harness that talent. Dak is up against his ceiling. I fully expect Dallas to sign him and it will be because of his marketing ability not his performance.

I understand . You’re not All In on Dak. I’m not either but what are our options if we want to contend now?

Regardless, what’s most important is how our ownership, front office and coaching perspectives. Are they All In? If they are then should pay him. If not move on. But I’d like to hear what the plan is if we are moving on.

But that’s not where I think our powers that be mindset is. Do you? And that’s all that matters.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I understand . You’re not All In on Dak. I’m not either but what are our options if we want to contend now?

Regardless, what’s most important is how our ownership, front office and coaching perspectives. Are they All In? If they are then should pay him. If not move on. But I’d like to hear what the plan is if we are moving on.

But that’s not where I think our powers that be mindset is. Do you? And that’s all that matters.

There are many options but the more important question is, If we sign Dak to that contract, will we be able to contend now?

 

[Diehardblues]

It would not be a 2020 season contract. Any deal that is signed now would impact the 2021 cap so again, it's not a 2020 deal.

When you ask a question, it's actually the exact opposite of "reading into" something. It's asking for clarification. These QBs can think of things however they wish. Doesn't mean they are worth it or that the team should pay it.

My questions are often from a Devils Advocate mentality. I can be a critic of Dak and our ownership while still weighing in the options while taking into consideration what the powers that be mindset is. Which of course will ultimately make the determination. , not some anonymous fans.

There’s a solid argument on both sides pending your evaluation of our QB. I think most analyst , etc that have weighed in including some notable ex players and coaches who I generally give credence to like Troy and Jimmy feel Dak is enough to invest in. That said there are parameters which they of course aren’t going to openly debate.

In the end it comes down to do you think we can win with Dak. Regardless what we think I’d argue the powers that be believe we can. And that’s all that matters. Once that decision is made then we can dissect it but ultimately it’s the results of the team that will be the final judge. And that will be argued as well since those results depend also on the team building skills of our dysfunctional organization.

Our situation with Jethro is complicated cause his priorities with “ relative and interesting “ often differ from our priorities. Which of course we can critique as well.

Bottomline is do we think we can find another QB who can place us in the same position Dak can immediately. And if not , what direction do we go from here. Most likely many fans don’t have same mindset of powers that be within our organization.

But the biggest separation is do you believe Dak could be enough with the proper support. If you don’t then that will drive your decision. My hunch is our ownership believes Dak can . And if they do should go after him. And we’ll have to live with decision . And be prepared to critique it and the results thereof.

 

[kskboys]

It’s all about timing. The amount a QB makes doesn't necessarily depend on his ranking or status in the league. He mostly just needs to be in this “ franchise QB “ status in order to receive one of these closer to the top contracts.

NFL's highest paid quarterbacks (average salary per year):

• 1. Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes: $45 million
• 2. Texans QB Deshaun Watson: $39 million
• 2. Seahawks QB Russell Wilson: $35 million
• 3. Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger: $34 million
• 4.Packers QB Aaron Rodgers: $33.5 million
• 4. Rams QB Jared Goff: $33.5 million
• 6. Vikings QB Kirk Cousins: $33 million
• 7. Eagles QB Carson Wentz: $32 million
• 8. Cowboys QB Dak Prescott: $$30.1 million
• 0. Falcons QB Matt Ryan: $30 million
• 10. Titans QB Ryan Tannehill: $29.5 million
• 
  This list doesn’t reflect any kind of pecking order overall according to their talent level. It’s more about the timing of their contracts. And this list changes basically on a year to year basis depending on new contracts not the level of their talent. The highest paid is more a reflection of most recent contracts . Sometimes it can currently reflect the pecking order but that’s not always the case. It changes over the duration of their contracts.
  
  
• And why we shouldn’t be alarmed if Dak receives one of the highest per annum contracts cause in a year or two it will have dropped considerably in the pecking order. It’s why he only wanted a 4 year contract cause he knows by then he’ll have dropped down the list.

Tannehill says howdy.