Goff traded for Stafford

[Swagger]

Don't forget the newly signed beer endorsement deal....now Dak can continue to throw his Covid parties and sleep easy knowing he passed for 500 yards in spite of his team losing.

 

[cowboyec]

the lions should be charged for grand theft.
better QB and a helluva crap load of picks.

 

[superonyx]

I think you missed Hawkeye's point. He's saying: If you make a mistake, own it, make remedy and move on. Rams did that with Gurley and did it again here.

Mistakes aren't the end of the world.

I guess I just don't see giving up 2 1st and a 3rd to replace the player you just signed early for huge money as fixing a mistake. It sounds to me like its taking 1 mistake and another mistake to it.

Maybe Stafford is the missing piece for them. Maybe he plays for 5 more seasons and becomes elite. To me he is a A- or B+ QB. Not sure a 33 year old player of his caliber is worth that much.

Now if they traded that for Desean Watson I could see the kudos.
Image what the Texans asking price for Watson just became? 4 firsts?

 

[Eddie]

The Rams won't have a 1st round pick for 7 years.

I don't understand what they were thinking. Were the picks a gift to the Lions for taking Goff's cap hit ???

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Safe to say that Jared Goffs days as a starting QB are numbered. What do you think folks? 2 years as a starter in Detroit and then off to ride the bench as a backup?

 

[DFWJC]

I guess I just don't see giving up 2 1st and a 3rd to replace the player you just signed early for huge money as fixing a mistake. It sounds to me like its taking 1 mistake and another mistake to it.

Maybe Stafford is the missing piece for them. Maybe he plays for 5 more seasons and becomes elite. To me he is a A- or B+ QB. Not sure a 33 year old player of his caliber is worth that much.

Now if they traded that for Desean Watson I could see the kudos.
Image what the Texans asking price for Watson just became? 4 firsts?

Depends on who they are trading with.
Remember,
1) LA had no 2021 firsts to offer.
2) they pick near the bottom the draft.
3) Rams were also partly paying Detroit to get Goff’s massive contract cleanly off the books

 

[superonyx]

Well...there's a learning moment here. As word is something like 6 teams offered a 1st or more.

But, who knows...maybe you'll be proved right and all those GM's will look silly.

BTW...the Jalen Ramsey trade looks smart by me.

Wasn't Ramsey in a contract year?
That would be the factor that makes 2 first round picks too rich.
The dude held all the leverage for his next deal. Or since Ramsey is one of the biggest knucklheads he could have just walked and signed somewhere else. I know they could have franchised him. He seems like the type to shut down and throw a fit over a tag.

Great player though.... Just two 1st for a pending free agent with an attitude problem seems risky.

 

[MCMetal69]

The only redeeming part of this trade for the Rams is they are only obligated to Stafford for 2 years , so if Matty degrades they have an out.

Otherwise this is an insane deal in favor of the Lions...................

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

The only redeeming part of this trade for the Rams is they are only obligated to Stafford for 2 years , so if Matty degrades they have an out.

Otherwise this is an insane deal in favor of the Lions...................

If Matty degrades that will be the end of the wonderboy coach. In fact he is on the hot seat to deliver after this.

 

[CWR]

Rams are idiots. Two firsts, a third for, and Goff, for Stafford?

Surely we can get two firsts for Dak now?

Exactly!!!! There is no risk with Dak just sign him and in a couple years flip him for 2 or 3 firsts. Seriously though I've said for years now, the only scenario I flat out can't accept is letting Dak walk without compensation.

 

[MCMetal69]

If Matty degrades that will be the end of the wonderboy coach. In fact he is on the hot seat to deliver after this.

And ironically the Rams have an easy out with both of them................McVay has thrown all his chips into Stafford.

 

[Qcard]

My buffoonery that just had you agreeing that Dak's mechanics, 4 and 5 years into his NFL career, are still a problem that need addressing and yet many want to pay him a king's ransom.....for what? Because of their personal love fpr Dak? Their fear that Dallas will not find another QB? That is nothing but desperation making poor decisions.

No, wrong. Pay attention soldier...suggesting that Dalton is even close to Dak Prescott at this point in their careers is buffoonery.

If you think QBs consistently improving their mechanics and developing constantly isn’t a normal in the NFL then it further shows your buffoonery and lack of awareness. Gold Standard Carson Wentz whom the experts told us made the best throws regressed due to various factors. Dak Prescott mechanics sometimes revert to bad habit for various reasons but both QBS proved they can win.

Do you see the difference?

 

[BobbyFlame469]

This video features goal post, end zone, shifting and inability of the Vikings to defend Dak...

Beautiful play

 

[BobbyFlame469]

Hate to say it, wait, no I don't. I told you he would pull at least a 1st when I suggested the Cowboys offer that 10th pick but that wouldn't be enough. The rumor was a 2021 2nd and 2022 1st but they sweetened that deal, wonder why? Because they didn't want the Niners getting him.

The Rams window is as wide open as it's going to get and all they needed was a good QB and regardless of the opinion of those I don't consider very good at evaluating QB's, that is exactly what Stafford is and you will see that now that he's with a good team with good coaching.

Stafford is a lot better than what you saw in DET and only had one real weapon in his time there; however, he is responsible for Golden Tate's rise and getting those nice FA contracts.

I was dead wrong about something, the Cowboys trading for him. They would have been left in the dust because he wanted to go to a contender.

The rams will not win 9 games next season.

If the 49ers end up trading for a QB stafford is going to be the worst quarterback in that NFC West division.

Russel and Kyler ended the Rams window

 

[superonyx]

Man... Goff has been bad. Dude has been top 5 in turnovers from Mid 2018 to present day. Also outside of top 20 in TDs and QBR. For the $ he got he’s clearly been crap.

I'm no Goff fan at all. I think he is soft and a system QB.
However is it fair to make excuses for Staffords stats and play while pretending Goff has been surrounded with excellent players on offense?
Maybe Goff is the scapegoat for McVee and the Rams offensive system the league has figured out.

I'm sure Stafford will be an upgrade over Goff. But trusting MCVee's judgement on QB's 2 years after proclaiming Goff was worth signing early and giving over 100m to seems shaky.

 

[Gaede]

Safe to say that Jared Goffs days as a starting QB are numbered. What do you think folks? 2 years as a starter in Detroit and then off to ride the bench as a backup?

I give him a few months this year as a starter, if Det drafts a guy. The pressure to start a rookie QB when the entrenched starter plays poorly is just too strong. Then again, I can see Campbell pulling a Parcells and not giving a F what media and fans think (as evidenced by his press conference lol)

 

[SultanOfSix]

Not a good trade at all for the Rams in terms of what they had to give up. Stafford is definitely talented, but he's up there in years, so the only way it won't be considered such is if the Rams win a Super Bowl out of it, but this is most certainly a gamble, and can only be known in retrospect.

 

[mardwin]

Rams are idiots. Two firsts, a third for, and Goff, for Stafford?

Surely we can get two firsts for Dak now?

Why didn't Jerry get on the phone with the Rams????

 

[mardwin]

Not a good trade at all for the Rams in terms of what they had to give up. Stafford is definitely talented, but he's up there in years, so the only way it won't be considered such is if the Rams win a Super Bowl out of it, but this is most certainly a gamble, and can only be known in retrospect.

Their thought process was that with Stafford they would have defeated Green Bay. They have an elite D but average QB play.

 

[Carson]